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I'll give the leftists this, most people on the e-"right" critically view media very differently if it was released after they became aware of things. Its reasonable to analyze media differently after a change in worldview. No matter your social/political stances we're all a product of our time. References to hotbutton issues in media from the late 90s are less likely to elicit a strong emotional stance than references to current events in contemporary media.This is a common argument I've seen in Synthetic Man's comment section as well as in the comment section of other right wing gaming channels from leftists.
They say it's silly/ignorant to say modern gaming is political/woke and to then idealize older generations of games as being apolitical or non woke.
I disagree that a right wing or apolitical creative wouldn't do this kind of plot. The basic narrative(as you put it) isn't right or left wing. Evil empire attempts to wipe out weaker, more primitive culture's way of life. You can find similar stories in the Old Testament, hardly a leftist work of literature. In the context of modern American politics? Sure, a liberal would be more likely to write this. But if you're going to zoom in on modern times you should consider that indian affairs are a much less contentious issue now than in say the late 1800s. Of course people will react less emotionally to a less socially relevant reference.For example, Fallout 2, you play as a tribesman fighting the US government (which includes them wanting to commit genocide on the planet's population) which is an allegory for Indigenous Americans vs the European US government. Obviously a right wing or even apolitical developer wouldn't do a plot like this. Tim Cain being gay and left wing is often brought up to reinforce this point too. Other examples of this in Fallout would be the criticism of Capitalism as well as allowing gay relationships in Fallout NV.
I never got the impression that GTA pushed a grand leftist narrative. Anti-establishment sure, and it makes sense that faux-90s LA would reference police brutality( I've hardly played the game so idk how they approach it). Most terminally online political people will admit that anti-establishment 'fight the man' messages don't always go hand in hand with hardcore leftist ideology. I don't think you pretend all self-proclaimed anti-establishment ideas are the same. The liberal need for perpetual revolution is alot more obnoxious once they've taken over as 'the man' and started enforcing a strict party line.Another example, a lot of leftists say GTA San Andreas criticizes police brutality and GTA 4 and 5 has a lot of on the nose left wing political satire that you find on the internet and radio in game for example in GTA 5, they say that Republicans make the US unlivable to illegals don't want to move there.
Did he identify as either of those things? Leftists love to retroactively apply their ideology to characters/people who had no conception of their belief system. They get it from their Marxist daddies retroactively deciding the root of all human conflicts were class struggles.In Elder Scrolls, Leftists also say Vivec in Morrowind was non binary or transgender
Like others said Kojima is a hack pulling together western ideas. without knowing them past the most surface level. The biggest semi-coherent thought I get from the MGS series is 'MIC bad'. Not really a super "woke" idea unless you're perpetually rebelling against 2003 neo-cons/libs. E-right people usually associate "woke" with cultural marxism(as they understand it).Metal Gear Solid is often brought up in relation to this point as well, the series is overtly political/"woke" yet from the leftists pov the right wing game is oblivious/ignorant to it.
Getting back to my first point. You can easily play older games today without picking up on socio-political themes and ideas. Newer games, not so much. This meme:

lives rent free in leftist heads. They can't allow you to be the guy that doesn't get it and simply enjoys media, so they need to ramp it up and beat you over the head.