F1NN5TER / Jude Howarth / Rose Elizabeth Evergreen - Kids Minecraft YouTuber turned forced feminisation fetish Twitch streamer & OnlyFans pornographer with wealthy donors. Internet Famous & Friends with Chris Tyson, Mr Beast, & Jean Hollywood.

[blablabla]

but there's a difference between a gay man trooning due to internalized homophobia and a 40-year-old businessman with a wife and kids trooning for a fetish.

there isnt. both should be killed

 

[Mr. Brown]

The guy who made a living pretending to be a woman is a nonce.

I am shocked.

 

[XavierTheMuck]

The saddest thing is that these awful groomer troons never face any consequences, in fact they get paraded and hailed as a hero in the media. Truly sadge

 

[Some Badger]

Hold up hold up, do you mean to tell me that the UK actually did something sensible for once? Hot damn.

I am by my own admission a thread tourist like half the other commenters on this threat for the forseeable future, so I feel the need to ask: does Jude have The Hunch?

 

['Ole Dente]

Well I've heard of the spiral of finnster and it doesn't surprise me. It did make me think though, If estrogen was considered a controlled substance like testosterone would these people be so open about it? I know for a fact that these kids/adults he's getting into this are just porn addicted coomers and if they legit stopped porn and anime this idea that they're a woman would go away.It's misuse clearly and I'm surprised that it hasn't become a controlled substance yet. And the ones that do get seized in mail, why aren't they looking into where they're sending it from.

It’s not people who watch porn too much or watch anime. It’s young teenagers, dissatisfied with their body during a period where they are supposed to feel that way. They look at themselves, half developed adults that they are, and they compare themselves to others in their social area that are less/more developed. They’re emotional and confused, they don’t understand life and they don’t have a grasp on things yet.

And here comes someone like Keffals, who instead of saying “This is normal, you will get over it, it’s part of the process” they say “You know all that insecurity you feel? All that social awkwardness? You’re just trans, just like me, and the fix is easy. Become like me. Ruin your life like me, so I don’t have to feel like my decisions were a mistake.”

It. is. fucking. insidious.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Icky even looks like the dweeby sitcom son character that gets bullied into putting a wig and water balloons on a sports bra as the b-plot of a a father’s days episode.

Icky actually looks very much like a woman to me but in a bad way. It’s because he has female crazy eyes. They trigger my BPD alert. He looks like a deranged woman who is about to come out as an FTM and/or be exposed as a master manipulator. The plastic surgery, heavy makeup, and photo filters make it worse.

 

[Melee Bouquet]

“This evil faggot wants to troon out youngsters because the perverts who bank roll him have a fetish for watching people get feminized” was my first thought.

This could all be Jude’s native evilness since the escalation of deviancy is common to trannies and fags (increasingly extreme sex, bizarre fetishes, more degradation, more damage), no financial incentive required. But...

Donating any money to any charity is a complete waste of your fucking time and energy

Charity Watch though I don't really disagree considering how bad things are (better to take care of your family/close friends/community)

 

[Freya]

They're descriptive and particular. I personally thing all troons have AGP, but there's a difference between a gay man trooning due to internalized homophobia and a 40-year-old businessman with a wife and kids trooning for a fetish.

There really isn't. I don't know why the fags here keep harping on about some TRU TRANS shit.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

Icky actually looks very much like a woman to me but in a bad way. It’s because he has female crazy eyes. They trigger my BPD alert. He looks like a deranged woman who is about to come out as an FTM and/or be exposed as a master manipulator. The plastic surgery, heavy makeup, and photo filters make it worse.

When looking like "Samara from The Ring" is your end goal. That boy ain't right.

 

[dick brain]

why do people act like these terms matter.

Because they tell you who they'll try to rape.
HSTS = got molested = will molest boys.
AGP = pornsick = will molest anything.

It’s not people who watch porn too much or watch anime. It’s young teenagers, dissatisfied with their body during a period where they are supposed to feel that way.

It's both. It's pornsickness + pedo EPI grooming + social contagion + predation from pharmaceutical corporations + xenoesteogens like atrazine, BPA and birth control leeching into groundwater + internalized misandry + the post-OWS idpol psyop + good old fashioned dysgenics. There is no one cause.

 

[Hog Grease]

I know I'm preaching to the choir here and maybe a little too optimistic but I hope more people start to catch on to how prevalent degenerate freaks like Jude are.

 

[Dr. Matthew C. Harris]

why do people act like these terms matter.

Because otherwise you completely lack an explanation for why fetishistic troons are the way they are.

Autogynephilia is a documented paraphilia. Sure, it's not the most popular object of discussion in the psych field but it's a thing that provably, demonstrably exists. If you lose that what would you call those people? Creeps? No, that's vague and exactly what they want. They don't want their behaviour exposed, they want complete ignorance of who they are, what they get off to. That way you look like a retarded moralfag if you say that "creeps", "deviants", etc. shouldn't use women's bathrooms because they clearly get off to it.

It's not even just useful as a cudgel. It's useful as a descriptive term to help people off the gooning spiral. There are many self-described autogynephiles who are getting help with their paraphilia after they've realised they were being lied to by the pinkpillers who fucked their identity up. Taking that term away isn't fair to them.

HSTS is just a very, very gay man. They'll usually put the most effort in passing because they legitimately want to be a woman out of non-fetishistic reasons. And for that reason they shouldn't incur the disrespect that's usually thrown at troons - they most often just want to be left alone, anyway. If men are from Mars and women are from Venus, AGPs are from Mercury (hell) and HSTS are from Pluto. Not fair to put them in the same basket as a gooner who shoves their fetish in your face.

Also, an addendum: those categories aren't absolute. There are plenty of people who fall in between, and outside of them. Giga autists, most notoriously. I blame a complete lack of funding, nay, sabotage of this research for why we don't have a better approach to this issue.

It’s not people who watch porn too much or watch anime. It’s young teenagers, dissatisfied with their body during a period where they are supposed to feel that way.

To be fair, a lot of it does stem from Slice of Life anime and porn. If you're a lonely young man in today's atomised society you'll be seduced by the Slice of Life anime, that are specifically made for Japanese salarymen to unwind and imagine a perfect life, into thinking that becoming the cute animu girl who's also sexy (because of hentai and porn) will fix all your problems. It's why wherever there's tranny anything there's also tranime. It is a compounding factor for sure, otherwise your post is correct.

I dare anyone here who's experiencing the death throes of Western society to watch a nice SoL like Non Non Biyori and not wish you could also fuck off to the Japanese countryside as a teenager. It's essentially what got Digibro, in a way.

 

[Paper Machete]

Because otherwise you completely lack an explanation for why fetishistic troons are the way they are.

Autogynephilia is a documented paraphilia. Sure, it's not the most popular object of discussion in the psych field but it's a thing that provably, demonstrably exists. If you lose that what would you call those people? Creeps? No, that's vague and exactly what they want. They don't want their behaviour exposed, they want complete ignorance of who they are, what they get off to. That way you look like a retarded moralfag if you say that "creeps", "deviants", etc. shouldn't use women's bathrooms because they clearly get off to it.

It's not even just useful as a cudgel. It's useful as a descriptive term to help people off the gooning spiral. There are many self-described autogynephiles who are getting help with their paraphilia after they've realised they were being lied to by the pinkpillers who fucked their identity up. Taking that term away isn't fair to them.

HSTS is just a very, very gay man. They'll usually put the most effort in passing because they legitimately want to be a woman out of non-fetishistic reasons. And for that reason they shouldn't incur the disrespect that's usually thrown at troons - they most often just want to be left alone, anyway. If men are from Mars and women are from Venus, AGPs are from Mercury (hell) and HSTS are from Pluto. Not fair to put them in the same basket as a gooner who shoves their fetish in your face.

While there is slight differences between AGP and HSTS...a troon is a troon. And it's the type of situation where you have to be okay with both or object to both because on will always support the other's existence. HSTS are absolutely also fetishistic, it just doesn't always manifest the same or even look the same. Don't feel sorry for HSTS. Especially in western worlds where gay acceptance is so high that you can hardly find any backwater shit hole that legit wishes they'd fuck off. The idea that HSTS are poor put upon gay men that have no other choice is simply not true. It's also a spit in the face to normal gay men who just have to live with being who they are and "have no out" for internal or external homophobia. Since HSTS are just obvious men anyway the idea being a tranny is a way to escape homophobia is dumb as fuck because it just would make someone even more of an uber fag and a bigger target.

If you've listened at all to HSTS talk about themselves and their transition you'd notice how blatantly pornsick and retarded they are, same as any other garden variety troon.

The ages of men trooning out I don't think are really all that relevent. I think they actually coincide more with how acceptable it has become to troon out and how much grooming there is for it. After this generation of middle aged troons passes, if transing is still a thing to the degree it is now, almost all new trannies are likely to be young. Add to that the fact some AGPs like trapping a woman in a marriage with a baby and so wait until they've managed that to troon where an HSTS has no such desire and it makes sense why the age difference is the way it is.

 

[Layton Mysteries]

Good horrifying art from @TJForgotten on Xitter (A):

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

Finster (I am not spelling his name with all the numbers fuck that nigger) is a horrible person at this point and I am sick of the copers on here defending him.

Lucas technically never gave hormones directly to kids, he just advertised bob posting, fagster actually intended to give hormones to kids directly for free.

EDP technically never groomed or fucked any kids (that we know of), we all agree the intention was bad enough to warrant condemnation.

 

[Dr. Matthew C. Harris]

HSTS are absolutely also fetishistic, it just doesn't always manifest the same or even look the same. Don't feel sorry for HSTS. Especially in western worlds where gay acceptance is so high that you can hardly find any backwater shit hole that legit wishes they'd fuck off

I disagree. I think this is a generalisation. Hell, even if it was about AGPs it would be a generalisation, just a much lesser one because... they're fetishistic by definition, the generalisation would consist in classing them all as evil and irredeemable people who express their fetish in the same way for exactly the same reasons, like I've seen people do. AGPs also got their identity fucked with big fucking time.

I'm not denying the fact that a HSTS can be fetishistic. Hell, most people in the general population have fetishes, and a lot of the HSTS drive to transition is attention from straight men. But like you said, it doesn't always manifest the same so hating them by default isn't really my speed.

It's like the troon that got featured here some moons ago, Kala the Tunnel Tranny. LARPed as a Pajeet, played Minecraft in real life for whatever reason. Never gave any indication that he was a fetishist at all. I don't even know where he falls in the AGP-HSTS dichotomy, which tbh shouldn't even BE a dichotomy but alas. He didn't seem very interested in anything sexual at all, all his interests seemed to gravitate towards being a more unhinged and loicenceless version of Colin Furze.

Overall, I do think we should feel sorry for those people regardless of their category, even. We shouldn't feel sorry for the shitbags among them, but someone on r/detrans who have just realised they've been lied to? I think an ideal society would have an abundance of resources to help them out of their predicament.

 

[Space Police]

Don't feel sorry for HSTS. Especially in western worlds where gay acceptance is so high that you can hardly find any backwater shit hole that legit wishes they'd fuck off. The idea that HSTS are poor put upon gay men that have no other choice is simply not true.

It's true in Iran and other Islamic countries (they almost always prefer troons to gays because of the Quran and because one politician had a GAMP fetish), and it's also true for black people in the west. Very feminine black gay men have a hard time finding employment despite all the DEI propaganda otherwise, so they may just pretend to be black women because it's easier. On top of that the black community (and by that I mean black families, friends, and churches) is fiercely socially conservative on all issues except race. Many times black people are more conservative than white religious Republicans, since corporal punishment is seen as a good parenting tactic in the black community (this teaches black people that violence is a good solution) -- don't be fooled by the Ibram X. Kendi types writing progressive antiracist thinkpieces; the average black person's politics are closer to Low Tier God's. This social conservatism manifests in black communities being intensely homophobic, so avoid backlash from their families and communities, gay black men try to hide their homosexuality, whether it be marrying a woman and having sex with dudes on the side (because of this you'll find HIV medication ads targeted to women in cities with hoods) or trooning. These gay black men from the hoods and deep in black communities view the rainbow and pride stuff as a meaningless facade from rich liberal white people who see black people as tokens to advance a pet cause, so they don't feel represented by it. It burns me up that gay rights organizations abandoned advocating for gay rights when the HRT money started flowing in, even though societal homophobia was far from eradicated even in the West.

 

[Buck Broken Chimp]

Honestly I think a lot of dudes are transitioning because to them it's simply a better deal then being an incel. I know most people on here would never transition but if your a gen z male and you were raised your entire life with feminism and you are also sad,poor and miserable. You might consider transitioning as an easy fix to your problems.

Obviously I would never transition and I am going to assume most of you wouldn't either no matter what, but most people don't think like us.

 

[Paper Machete]

It's true in Iran and other Islamic countries (they almost always prefer troons to gays because of the Quran and because one politician had a GAMP fetish), and it's also true for black people in the west. Very feminine black gay men have a hard time finding employment despite all the DEI propaganda otherwise, so they may just pretend to be black women because it's easier. On top of that the black community (and by that I mean black families, friends, and churches) is fiercely socially conservative on all issues except race -- many times more conservative than white religious Republicans, since corporal punishment is seen as a good parenting tactic in the black community (this teaches black people that violence is a good solution) -- which manifests in black communities being intensely homophobic. To avoid backlash from their families and communities, gay black men try to hide their homosexuality, whether it be marrying a woman and having sex with dudes on the side (because of this you'll find HIV medication ads targeted to women in cities with hoods) or trooning. These gay black men from the hoods and deep in black communities view the rainbow and pride stuff as a meaningless facade from rich liberal white people who see black people as tokens to advance a pet cause, so they don't feel represented by it.

You may have a point about blacks. But Iran and the middle east aren't western and GAMPs are chasers. If you have a fetish for troons you're a GAMP. No one that I've ever heard of has had a fetish for the GAMPs themselves lol, they're pretty much the only dating pool for troons and the troons are always wailing about it. The only time they aren't crying about getting chased by chasers is when they're too dumb to notice that's what they've snagged.

There is a lot of overlapping mental illness that feeds into all this. There is no one societal pressure that will make someone think taking hormones, getting a bunch of horrofic frankenstein surgeries, and everything else entailed is an "easier way out". (Except, I guess, if your only other option is getting stoned to death and thrown from a roof.) Some of them will say that it played a part. But remember you're dealing with LITERALLY INSANE PEOPLE who often have personality disorders, they're not good at being self-aware. It really does take the specific type of brainwashing that choosing to make a fetish/kink 24/7 in public is a good idea.

You're not getting any gay side dick if you need to be closeted by inverting your penis. Since, you know, gay men tend to like OTHER MEN who are INTACT. So it's not actually an easier way to be closeted.

But all that's derailing that this is about Finn. What is he, like the 3rd trooned out person who wants to help kids get bathtub hormones?

 

[Sneedmiser]

If Muslims weren't all gay pedophiles then people like Finnster in the UK wouldn't be so cocky.