General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Señora Airi]

I assumed given that Pippa doesn't have one? Why the fuck are people posting to this mess of a thread if it was always allowed? Like do these people not know how the site works?

I'm just more surprised Niji doesn't have a thread, as they seem more lolcow-y than Pippa tbh.

 

[Scarthew]

I assumed given that Pippa doesn't have one? Why the fuck are people posting to this mess of a thread if it was always allowed? Like do these people not know how the site works?

This is in the media board. As in people who enjoy the thing and want to talk about it with fellow fans. The lolcow board is elsewhere.

Also pippa isn't really a lolcow.

 

[Burnt Fish]

I assumed given that Pippa doesn't have one? Why the fuck are people posting to this mess of a thread if it was always allowed? Like do these people not know how the site works?

Why would you ever assume that an offtopic multimedia thread existing = threads cannot be made if specific lolcows arise from the topic. Like we have an anime/manga thread, but that didn't mean an anituber like Digibro doesn't get his own thread.

This reads like you're somehow the one that doesn't understand how this site works.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

This feels disrespectful to everyone but Offkai. “No, it’s cool that we gotten raped through the ass because it wasn’t a gangrape”

All this shows is that being fucked over is Phase Connect’s policy number 1. In reality it isn’t, but when you allow yourself to get fucked over thrice, see that they are fucking over friends of the company too, and your go to response is to run defense for people fucking you over; well, there’s only one interpretation Offkai is going to get from this. It doesn’t matter what Fishman might have told them in private, because Offkai now knows; Phase will cuck.

Whether or not Phase would cuck is up to Sakana, of course, but anyone who wants to fuck Phase over will be taking very careful notes. Phase isn’t projecting an image of strength, but of submission. I understand this sort of bullshit is the last thing Sakana wants to think about, and I sympathize. But he’s running a business.

I sympathize with Pippa and Sakana, but I respectfully think these are the wrong cards to play. We’ll see, though. Perhaps he is working behind the scenes to determine what is salvageable of their relationship before doing anything excessive.

I don't know man. If what Kirsche said about Fishman telling Offkai that it was all of Phase or none of Phase was 100% what happened, and I don't doubt her, then that's not cucking. He has swung his dick at them and they kissed it.

I'm not suggesting that fuckery wasn't afoot. It does seem like there was some kind of interference from a tranny janny or two. I think we might be a bit hypersensitive to all of it due to our close proximity to Phase and what happened to the site in '22. While any fuckery that may have occurred isn't right there's the bit about how this might end up being a nothing burger when the dust settles. Offkai is one convention and it's not a big convention. They've already gotten conventions lined up this summer. Uruka is gonna be part of a concert at AnimeExpo

https://twitter.com/AnimeExpo/status/1796345873057636686

There are other and bigger fish to fry than Offkai. I still think that if nothing else Fishman got more than his money's worth by paying all the vendor fees for everyone. If little piss babies wanna bee little piss babies and try to sabotage Phase's events then Fishman will get his pound of flesh either from people supporting Phase or people losing faith in Offkai, I believe at least.

Lastly, I think we're having the same issue we did in February of last year during the Pikame and Hogwarts debacle. A lot of us want TTD but Pippa and Phase want no part in any kind of political fight. Even though you can hear the frustration in Pippa's voice when talking about the issues at Offkai she does not say TTD or anything close to it because she is professional now and cannot waste her time flinging shit at some gender blob volunteers from California (and you know they would hide behind them being poor, widdle volunteers) and other retards would use her to go after other retards in their retard fight. We know that Pippa has no problem going after people that try to actually harm Phase, see Coomalot and Nick, so I imagine she's holding back because of the previous reasons. I think that's why she told people that if they didn't like how things were happening then they needed to step up and volunteer and I agree with that. It feels kinda Podcast Race to sit and complain in some woman's chat who is powerless to change anything especially considering that the thing has already happened.

Someone on TVA threw out Phase might have signed a 2 year contract with OffKai. Could have a no disparaging clause or something to that effect. But considering the source is a volunteer told me I'm doubtful here. Kind of furthers the cucking of Phase if Phase signed a contract where con staff fucked with your shit all weekend and you can't publicly blast the company and you still have to show in another year and be fucked again.

That doesn't make any sense to me. Fishman is a business man first. The idea that he'd sign a contract with a convention that's only in it's third year with some kind of non disparagement clause seems kind far fetched. If they were actively harming his business while at the convention I don't know why he would honor a non disparagement or NDA. Offkai breaking their side of the deal I would think would release Phase from any obligation of honoring their end.

 

[Ministry of Shady Links]

Why would you ever assume that an offtopic multimedia thread existing = threads cannot be made if specific lolcows arise from the topic. Like we have an anime/manga thread, but that didn't mean an anituber like Digibro doesn't get his own thread.

This reads like you're somehow the one that doesn't understand how this site works.

There are not a single thread, as far as I know, about a vtuber or group associated with vtubers on the lolcow or internet famous boards despite there seemingly being an interest for it.

Also, I was just asking out of confusion. It's not like everybody can make a thread on those boards, so I assume there is just a lack of interest among those with posting privileges there.

 

[TheMonkeyMan]

Biboo mentioned having an older brother in her current Elden Ring stream, is this the first time he's come up?

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Also, I was just asking out of confusion. It's not like everybody can make a thread on those boards, so I assume there is just a lack of interest among those with posting privileges there.

Anyone can make a thread on almost anyone or anything. Hell, I've done it and I'm retarded. If you wanna make one on Pippa or Phase or anyone, get some info together and make one in Proving Grounds. No one is above criticism or discussion.

 

[Higgs Bonbon]

There are not a single thread, as far as I know, about a vtuber or group associated with vtubers on the lolcow or internet famous boards despite there seemingly being an interest for it.

Also, I was just asking out of confusion. It's not like everybody can make a thread on those boards, so I assume there is just a lack of interest among those with posting privileges there.

There's an open niche there, especially with troontoobers like Marina and other very obvious infiltrators, but I'm not about to do a whole writeup as I'm a lazy faggot

 

[Bindo]

That doesn't make any sense to me. Fishman is a business man first.

The dude's biz skills are beyond legit, and his talent retention stats are fucking unreal for an EN agency performing at the level Phase is.
Dude knows how to delegate, how to gain and maintain face w/o being a doormat or a douche and isn't afraid to spend money to drive toward medium/long-term goals.

 

[Funelas]

Biboo mentioned having an older brother in her current Elden Ring stream, is this the first time he's come up?

No, he's come up quite a few times before. I can't remember specifics, though, but I definitely remember her DMC V playthrough as V, she mentioned Broseki more than usual there.

 

[Burnt Fish]

There are other and bigger fish to fry than Offkai. I still think that if nothing else Fishman got more than his money's worth by paying all the vendor fees for everyone.

Agree with pretty much all of your post one thing I'd add on to that is just that, the biggest issue we're aware of was the external stream. Which for most convention stuff that's just an added bonus and not the real meat of the appearance. Sucks that it botched but if the actual in person experience was fine than well, like Pippa said that thing were mostly fine.

Also if False's source is to be believed whoever that twitch jannie was got the axe over their shenanigans and for speaking out of turn. Which isn't the heart of the issue because a random twitch janny doesn't have the power to fuck the stream up in the way that it was, but it's a minor consolation.

Offkai needs to get their shit together, or something else needs to take their place. But I feel like a lot of the discussion here or on tva about this is more just "us" wanting a fight on Phase's behalf when Phase themselves and their talents don't seem at all interested in that.

There are not a single thread, as far as I know, about a vtuber or group associated with vtubers on the lolcow or internet famous boards despite there seemingly being an interest for it.

Honestly speaking I just don't know of an individual vtuber that there's enough content on for their own cow thread. Rushia/Mikeneko possibly, But a lot of the other stuff is pretty sparse even compared to the more minor cows on this site ,or just nobody is watching the actual cows enough to have enough information and content on them for a thread. There's "seemingly interest for it" but who's going to go sit through hundreds of some troontuber stream to gather info for a writeup. It's one of those things where yeah, people will sit and say "boy it'd be nice to have it" but nobody's gonna subject themselves to it to actually research it and write it up that frequents this thread. (I'm sure as fuck not subjecting myself to Marina or whatever other random troon's streams)

 

[Edgy But Dull]

I mean kinda but on the other hand trying to be professional to people scamming you isn't really the best business decision either. Offkai has repeatedly shown themselves to be grossly incompetent at best. Is this really what he wants to tie himself too? I don't see a working relationship here, but then again, I don't run a successful vtubing business.

The problem with Offkai is that it is the biggest vtubing convention that isn't tied to a specific convention purely because no one else is doing one. All the other convention appearances are tied to some anime convention or something like that, it's not strictly for the industry itself. For all its faults (which there are many), Offkai is unironically one of the best ways to network within the industry and people can't abandon that because there just isn't an alternative yet.

I get the feeling Pippa doesn't want the specter of drama to hang over her and her friends Offkai visit, she and everyone else did seem to have fun and enjoyed their time, but she also isn't deluded enough to not realize there was fuckery about. So in the end we get this weird Half-Defense Half-Cope section where she says everything was mostly fine, but if you truly think Offkai was ran poorly you should volunteer and be the change you want to be. She also sounds utterly sick and tired of the Dramafags following her every move and trying to goad her into dropping more info, even timing out a guy towards the end of the 10 minutes and telling him to rewatch the vod to understand what she's saying. She isn't trying to burn bridges but also isn't saying nothing happened, its a unsatisfying outcome that I think everyone should have expected, Almost offensive in how In-offensive it is.

The whole rant was her trying to dissuade from any witchhunting as fixating on the shitshow serves no purpose and only encourages more political shitflinging that Phase wants no part in, this is definitely something that Fish and Phase want handled quietly behind the scenes. It's why she made the effort to say "most of the staff" instead of just saying "the staff". They're definitely hoping that Phasefags take the effort to volunteer next year to help alleviate this issue for OffKai Gen 4. If Fish were smart, he'd hire a few tech guys to run the big Phase events as opposed to relying on volunteers for Phase-related content.

Also if False's source is to be believed whoever that twitch jannie was got the axe over their shenanigans and for speaking out of turn. Which isn't the heart of the issue because a random twitch janny doesn't have the power to fuck the stream up in the way that it was, but it's a minor consolation.

That source that False got was definitely spouting bullshit since they claimed "it was Phase's fault because they had bad internet!" when the girls had no problem doing an offcollab stream right as OffKai ended. That insider even contradicted themselves with their next message stating that it was a prerecorded performance. Considering they were fine showing a good chunk of the Phase 3D event and then it suddenly went to shit, that insider was definitely lying. Then you have the part about them claiming they fired that mod just really shows this whole thing was some volunteer or staff trying to run defense for Offkai/volunteers.

 

[Major von der Westfront]

Rushia/Mikeneko possibly, But a lot of the other stuff is pretty sparse even compared to the more minor cows on this site ,or just nobody is watching the actual cows enough to have enough information and content on them for a thread.

Not to mention that who would want to sift through and transcribe the stream itself to document really key shit on her. It's either you just read the big stuff, or you watch her talk in that really cutesy voice while she either does some slot machine or she sits there as she follows the Hololive fad like with Monster Hunter

 

[Ministry of Shady Links]

Anyone can make a thread on almost anyone or anything. Hell, I've done it and I'm retarded. If you wanna make one on Pippa or Phase or anyone, get some info together and make one in Proving Grounds. No one is above criticism or discussion.

Ty! Never made a thread, so I wasn't familiar with the submitting proses.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

No, he's a retarded gorilla nigger. I think everyone here would think you'd be more than fine with lolcow thread on vtubers (I think Marcan has a thread even).

pippa has a PG thread (that died pretty early) oops its the makes fun of ralph thread

Fishman will get his pound of flesh

i take it you've never read the merchant of venice?

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

The idea that he'd sign a contract with a convention that's only in it's third year with some kind of non disparagement clause seems kind far fetched.

Yeah. Given the amount of phase connect fans the con needs Fishman - Fishman doesn't need the con right now.

I'm sure as fuck not subjecting myself to Marina or whatever other random troon's stream

If anyone deserves a lolcow thread its the awful ones like Marina, but like you said I wouldn't subject myself to that either.
Who wants to listen to some sex pest troon for hours on end.
The highlights of the awful things they do is the best you'd really get.

A Pippa thread seems pointless as she mostly gets anxiety and just doesn't stream or do things.
Same with most vtubers when they get troubled. There's nothing to milk. I'm only interested in lolcows that are genuinely awful people.
So Rushia / Marina / maybe Apricot from Vshojo are really it on that front. But even then its long periods of nothing.

 

[Burnt Fish]

That source that False got was definitely spouting bullshit since they claimed "it was Phase's fault because they had bad internet!" when the girls had no problem doing an offcollab stream right as OffKai ended.

I don't really see the issue there. They were able to stream 2 days later just fine on what was probably a different connection after the convention had cleared out and whatever network they were on was probably 100x less congested.

That insider even contradicted themselves with their next message stating that it was a prerecorded performance. Considering they were fine showing a good chunk of the Phase 3D event and then it suddenly went to shit, that insider was definitely lying.

Just pulled it back up to double check what he said was that Phase was trying to stream their skits, what was playing in the convention hall for the 3d song performances/skits were pre recorded and on a hardlined connection different from what the phase talents were trying to use themselves. That's not any sort of contradiction. and actually would be perfectly in line with "they were showing a good chunk of the phase 3d event and then it suddenly went to shit" which would have been when they swapped from the pre-recorded stuff on their hardwired connection to Phase trying to broadcast live for bits in between.

Then you have the part about them claiming they fired that mod just really shows this whole thing was some volunteer or staff trying to run defense for Offkai/volunteers.

I mean offering any sort of explanation of the event is going to be perceived as "running defense for offkai" because the assumed narrative was "Commiefornians cut the feed because they don't like pippa" Which there just never ended up being actual good reason to believe. The one random twitch mod clearly had some bias but a twitch mod wouldn't have the ability to cut the feed and run in-stream ads, only the person manning the OBS setup would be able to do that which would presumably have been actual offkai staff and not rando volunteers.

It all seems like a disorganized mess, but much of the narrative people seem to be running with just doesn't hold up when given actual thought.

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In more fun news. Might be another HoloEN concert announcement?

https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1798565480967401558

 

[Funelas]

Marina / maybe Apricot from Vshojo are really it on that front.

I know about Rushia/Mikeneko, but who are these two and what have they done? A QRD would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

[Burnt Fish]

I know about Rushia/Mikeneko, but who are these two and what have they done? A QRD would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Marina is your typical tranny and all the insanity that comes with that.

Froot, there's some old drama on her cheating on her boyfriend when he was deployed in the military, Her mom is a nutter and acts like one on twitter defending her daughter's honor, she had a full meltdown over people playing the wizard game including her (at the time) company coworker silvervale. Silver was harassed over playing the game and had a breakdown on stream over it, to which froot chimed in "it's okay everyone makes mistakes" (implying she thought silver was in the wrong for streaming the game) at the same time Froot decided to virtue signal about raising money for a tranny charity, which she then never made good on. (I think I got most of the highlights there)

 

[SandyCat]

I know about Rushia/Mikeneko, but who are these two and what have they done? A QRD would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

If you wanted a detailed rundown for froot this covers it

Marina is your typical tranny and all the insanity that comes with that.

Froot, there's some old drama on her cheating on her boyfriend when he was deployed in the military, Her mom is a nutter and acts like one on twitter defending her daughter's honor, she had a full meltdown over people playing the wizard game including her (at the time) company coworker silvervale. Silver was harassed over playing the game and had a breakdown on stream over it, to which froot chimed in "it's okay everyone makes mistakes" (implying she thought silver was in the wrong for streaming the game) at the same time Froot decided to virtue signal about raising money for a tranny charity, which she then never made good on. (I think I got most of the highlights there)

Why are skinny black haired women always the batshit crazy ones