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Is Dating a Total Nightmare for You Right Now?

On a recent Saturday night in Austin, Anya Haas went out hoping to meet someone. She planned to grab a bar seat at a trendy restaurant and scope out her options, but when she arrived, it was packed. While waiting, an elderly man offered to buy Haas dinner; she politely declined and left to grab some sushi before heading to a comedy show. There, she figured, it would be easier to mingle with people her own age. But when the 32-year-old hospitality worker arrived at the club, it was mostly empty. She was also the only person who sat in the front row, and the comics singled her out for being alone. Humiliated, Haas then got a ride home from a single, 75-year-old woman who said she drove for Uber in order to meet people. That’s going to be me, Haas thought while petting the driver’s dog.

Once she got home, Haas recorded a videorecapping her mortifying experience. “I’m not someone who posts or cries on the Internet,” she says. “So this is a new one for me.” Haas, who has been single for the past seven years, talks through tears about how tired she is of people telling her a dream man will “come along when you least expect it.” “I’m so sick of hearing that,” she says, slamming her hands down on her kitchen island. “There’s such a thing as people who just don’t find their person and don’t get married.”

Haas had posted on TikTok only three times before, but by the next day, her video had millions of views across the internet. People began to repost her TikTok alongside other videos of tearful 20- and 30-something single women, and the reactions showed just how disconnected the sexes are when it comes to the state of dating in 2024. Many men criticized Haas for having “unrealistic expectations” or seemed confused by her dilemma. “Why are so many 29 yr old boss girls from Tiktok having public meltdowns about failing to find a man?” wrote one dude on X. Meanwhile, legions of women commiserated. “I’m in the same boat,” one 30-year-old wrote, adding that she also hadn’t been in a relationship in almost seven years.

Single people have always griped about trying to meet someone, but lately, it seems heterosexual women have reached a breaking point. Not only are they crying on-camera and swearing off dating apps, they are becomingvoluntarily celibate like Julia Fox or going “boysober.” When Bumble ran an anti-celibacy campaign last month, the company received so much backlash it was forced to pull the ads and apologize. Taken together, it looks as though single women in the U.S. are one more bad date away from launching their own version of South Korea’s 4B movement, in which women refuse to date, fuck, marry, or have kids with men.

Ryan Spencer vented her frustrations on TikTok in mid-May because conversations with a new love interest were stuck at surface level. None of the five men she had previously dated provided the 29-year-old with the deep commitment she’s seeking either. “How much longer do I have to pray and manifest and wait?” she says in her video. Choking back tears, she wonders, “Is it just supposed to be me, alone?” Spencer tells me she grew up with parents who still “absolutely love the shit out of each other,” and along with marriage, kids, and a house, she wants the fairy-tale romance, too. “I’m not denying that I’m a little bit delulu when it comes to falling in love,” she says. “I’m sorry, I grew up watching Disney movies!”

Taylor, who asked to go by her first name only, could relate to Spencer’s video even though she’s not angling for a marriage proposal. “She has a solid life but doesn’t have a person to share it with,” the 30-year-old pastry cook says of the TikTok. “It hit me recently: 90 percent of the things I do on a daily basis I do alone.” Taylor, who lives in Brooklyn and wants a partnership of some kind, says so many of the guys she meets suffer from what she calls “porn brain”: They prize performative masculinity over actual connection. During sex, she says, they focus on dominance rather than her pleasure. Her only relationship ended a year and a half ago, and while she has been on a few dates since then, it’s been hard to have meaningful conversations.

All the women I spoke with said they feel apps have turned dates into transactions. Haas swore off Bumble and Hinge more than a year ago, finding that most guys just pretended to want something serious in order to get laid. (Since posting her video, she says two men she previously matched with sent unprompted dick pics.) Anissa, a 31-year-old corporate lawyer who asked to go by a pseudonym, tells me the guys she meets seem interested in “conquest” while she and other single women are “trying to just find their person.” She describes three male archetypes she has encountered on the apps: “He either wants to have sex with you immediately. Or he’s already in a relationship and is just so obviously noncommittal. Or he’s obsessed with you.” One guy lied to her about his job and where he lived, another confessed last-minute to being in an open relationship, and the last man she went on a date with became overly attached to her after spending only a few hours together. She flaked on their follow-up plans. “There’s a sickness where we don’t see people as people because of the apps,” she says. “We always think that there’s something ‘better’ out there.”

Anissa isn’t finding it any easier to meet guys offline. In her experience, men her age tend to pick up younger women in bars. “He’s going to go up to the scantily clad 21-year-old who’s having the time of her life,” she says. “Not three grumpy 31-year-olds.” Taylor also hasn’t had any luck in the wild after ditching dating apps. She says that in her 20s, it was easy to meet someone every weekend at Union Pool, the notoriously horny Williamsburg club. Now, she finds the bar crowd is more closed off and cliqued up. Watching Haas’s video, she thought, Someone’s sitting alone at a comedy show? Sounds about right. “In the past five years, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone out there randomly,” she adds.

Each woman offers different theories on why dating is such a drag right now. Taylor blames technology, and Spencer finds men her age are more interested in “getting shit-faced in New York City every weekend” than in committing to a relationship, partly because the COVID-19 pandemic derailed their prime sexual years. Another woman in her early 30s tells me she has been on an eight-month break from dating men because she thinks they’ve become more politically conservative. (Some studies show that young women are becoming more liberal than young men, though experts are skeptical that there’s a significant political divide between the sexes.) Haas is concerned about the online network of men’s-rights activists who want to “turn guys against women.” The one common thread throughout these conversations, though, is that the women believe their romantic priorities are fundamentally different from those of guys their age. That may not be a new problem (see: Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus), but it feels especially pressing in the age of Andrew Tate and swiping left.

Taylor still feels hopeful that she’ll meet someone even if she has no idea when. But Anissa isn’t so sure. Like Spencer and Haas, the thought of being single long-term terrifies her; she doesn’t want to spend her Friday nights with her cat eating sushi. She also hates it when people tell her a relationship will happen when she stops trying to make it happen. “I think that is the biggest lie that we tell each other and ourselves,” Anissa says. “You have to look.” But where is she supposed to look, exactly? For her part, Haas wants to be more proactive about flirting IRL by complimenting hot men she sees at the grocery store or in a coffee shop. Rather than going to a bar and hoping to get hit on, she’s also forcing herself to get off the couch and hang out with friends she doesn’t normally see. “I’m just going to try and have fun and see if that helps,” she says.

On Instagram, she currently has 180 unread messages, but the DMs Haas is most excited about have been from other women in Austin asking her to hang out. If the video scores her a few new friends, it will have served a purpose — though she has thought about taking it down. “If I magically do meet somebody,” she says, “I don’t need them to be able to go to my TikTok and see me crying all over the internet.”
 
One event ten years ago is not a trend. Are you a woman? Because that's how women reason.



"A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle." -Irina Dunn

I never saw a fish cry because it couldn't find a bike.
Again, you know that there have been multiple incidents and so do I, which is why I said 'and others'.

The phrase that you just mentioned is by an australian ecologist who had only regional involvement with feminism in australia and it was borrowed and popularised by Gloria Steinem, who as I literally just said is ex-CIA and wasn't acting for the benefit of women or genuine interest in actual feminist ideology. She is the only reason you've heard it before and you are doing exactly what she intended by bringing it up as some great wound to the male ego that women are experiencing hubris for rather than a comment by some literally who when most actual feminist activists wouldn't know who she is; I only just learned it wasn't a direct quote from Steinem just now.

These are not counterpoints.
 
Women are complaining because what gains have been made there are always large organised efforts to take them away again. Women do not have easy access to abortion in america any more.

You need to pick a lane. Either the world of casual sex, careerism, chemical hysterectomies, scraped-out wombs, and being alone at thirty is what feminists want, or it's a CIA plot that isn't "true feminism."


lol
 
I have literally never ever had a man throw himself at me. Not once.
You have, you just never noticed or you were raised a muslim female existence where you weren't allowed to leave the house and only saw family and even then with all the muslim inbreeding..... I promise you.
This is what dudes in here are talking about never even being on the RADAR. "He's just being nice carrying that printer over to my house"


I also just want to point out that a lot of the especially aging dating pool of entitled roasties who not only feel entitled but write articles about how entitled they feel and its mens fault, its not that good women don't exist its that they are removed from the dating pool early and permanently by any dude with a positive IQ. The cock- carousel thots are the ones that are consistently single.
 
First off how the hell you stay single as a woman for most of your 20s? how? unless you're deformed even a 5/10 has to shove guys off her at that age.

If its because of your "personality" then congratulations you're a mental(fem)cel of the highest degree, because even BPD loonies manage to get dicked down at that age.
On Instagram, she currently has 180 unread messages
Good thing I only glanced over the article because this part at the end should be at the very top, but then again if it did nobody would read this shit.

180 and you still bitch about being alone, even chads don't get this much attention while doing nothing.
but it feels especially pressing in the age of Andrew Tate
I swear to god that bald fuck just lives rent free in the head of shitlibs. Literally nobody cares about that chinlet retard, I only heard about him when shitlibs like these started sperging 24/7 about it, else I wouldn't even know he exists.

Or maybe you just use him as a strawman since he's so ridiculous and obnoxious that mentioning him invalidates any valid complaints about the current gender divide.
Literally the whole article is about how they can't find a guy who sees them as a person rather than the opportunity to renact a porn video. The three types of guy they said they're running into is porn addict, cheater, or stalker.
It sounds like the only men they go after are porn addicts, cheaters, or stalkers.

Or rather porn addicts, cheaters, or stalkers that are hot, because you know damn well they are not going for the average manlet fat gooner.
So... just be single and stop whining about it. It's the same thing we tell incels 'no one is entitled to a relationship', right? it cuts both ways.
We live in the age of double standards, of course its not okay when it happens to them.
but the guys that don't watch porn are a lot rarer than you think.
Everybody even women have watched porn at one point but the kind of guys who are porn addicts don't even bother looking for women anymore because they know their chances are next to zero and nobody cares, why you think they are watching so much porn in the first place? FFS is like people saying 4chan turns kids into shut-in losers, they were already shut-in losers when they got there.
Gail Dines the porn researcher has struggled to get studies off the ground due to inability to find guys that don't watch porn.
I literally don't know anyone who is addicted to porn except for one girl who is into BDSM, a porn genre that's practically dominated by women.
The demand is much greater than the supply
You kidding right? most porn studios are going broke because there too much free porn out there, and that's before AI showed up and now any of these gooners can make the porn they want.
and almost every other guy I met was a porn brained weirdo
Seriously where the hell do you hang out? coomer central?
or just too pushy in general
Elaborate, be detailed.
Of course if he waits too long he's going to age out as well >35-36
What, over 36 and girls just magically don't give a damn?
 
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You have, you just never noticed or you were raised a muslim female existence where you weren't allowed to leave the house and only saw family and even then with all the muslim inbreeding..... I promise you.
Well, certainly not a Muslim but honestly, I haven’t had any of that kind of attention at all. Never have.
I don’t think I look like the back of a bus but honestly, I have never had male attention like that. Maybe some women do, I’m sure very beautiful women do.
 
Well, certainly not a Muslim but honestly, I haven’t had any of that kind of attention at all. Never have.
I don’t think I look like the back of a bus but honestly, I have never had male attention like that. Maybe some women do, I’m sure very beautiful women do.

Maybe you don't have the entire office writing sonnets or fist fights for your hand in the street, but I promise you that you had at least one dude who would have committed a felony for you if meant a steady relationship. You have just completely ignored it and didn't even process he was interested because women just expect men to do shit for them.

Also I can bet one of the guys you crushed on would have definitely given you the time of day if you'd actually communicated your interest. The number of times I have heard female friends/my sisters' friends sobbing about how Yon Faire Maiden Prince didn't pick up on the fact they talked to them FIRST* at the party meant that she was totally moist in the drawers for him.

*It wasnt' actually first because she had to talk to talk to her bestie, and talk to Kat because she is having a hard time since she was cheated on and since I talked to Kat I had to talk to Becky because otherwise Becky would get pissy because she thinks I like Kat better than her, and then she got
So it was actually like 3 hours into the part before I came to say "hey" but I talked to him as soon as I humanly could why doesn't he realize it and love me back its because I wasn't dressed like a slut isn't it men are total pigs


But talking to said normal, non-PUA, non-fuckboy guy, he totally DID notice her attempts at seduction but didn't want to be a creep by assuming that's what they were.
Which is generally why behaving like a Fuckboy works, by treating everything that isn't calling the cops as a sign of interest, just due to law of averages. Which is its own negative reinforcement cycle which I'm not going to get into here.

Physical looks have nothing to do with it, there are plenty of land whales with threads on this very forum who have simpcucks that should be out of their league let alone have to put up with their abuse.
 
I just don’t see this from experience. I have never had men throwing themselves at me.
Of course but at any point that you approached a man how did it go? if you started a convo with one how did they react? were you ever ignored by men? got hinted or even told to go away?

One of the reasons I stopped giving dating advice to other men who couldn't get any was seeing them getting rejected outright, talking them walking to a girl who was by no means a supermodel or even hot and trying to start a convo only for the girl to act like she just stepped on dogshit. And these were average guys BTW, I wasn't telling quasimodo to go talk with the cheerleaders...

You see that's the difference, that's why you're being told women can't be femcels, most women who are single are voluntarily so, you've to be particularly ugly and all-around awful as a woman for men to actively avoid you. Its a completely asymmetrical situation, its why so many zoomer boys are single well into their 20s but zoomer girls are not.
 
Its a completely asymmetrical situation, its why so many zoomer boys are single well into their 20s but zoomer girls are not.
It should be clarified what being single means. A lot of thots in their twenties will claim to be single but they have shit like “situationships” which seem to be a zoomer term for friends with benefits. These girls are technically single but they’re fucking somebody at a minimum. Many girls don’t “count” the hookups, fuckbuddies, their Tinder trysts, etc. When thots will swear up and down that they haven’t been with anybody for months, the unspoken caveat is they only “count” conventional relationships. This is something many forget to consider. The real question should be when was the last time a man inserted his penis into your vagina; suddenly six months turns into last Thursday.
 
It's probably been said in the thread before, but for how great the internet has been overall, it has created a lot of problems. The Tinder Mindset is just one of them. Women with okay self esteem fall into it all the time. "I'm great, so why should I settle for less than absolute perfection?" It affects employers too with Linkedin, but that would be off topic.

Tinder works well if you're a very attractive man looking for casual sex, or if you're a woman looking for casual sex or want a go at the cock carousel. But genuine matches are kind of rare. You always hear of marriages born from Tinder, but statistically, it's not what's likely to happen to you. It's the Tinder equivalent of winning the lottery. If you're average, Tinder is exactly the wrong place to be realistically looking for love.

Personally I believe in the dumb notion of romantic love that just happens if you let it does work, if you stick to your guns and aren't actively looking for it, but I understand the proactive approach of just making things happen. Thing is, it's like relationship counseling. If your relationship is more like a war of attrition that requires constant deals, negotiation and effort you might as well just break up because what you have is a second or third job that you lose money and time on for only the benefit of regular sex.

If people dated within their bracket, scene and interests, things would go a lot smoother. Many stories about the geeky computer dude who's given a chance by the cool, lavish lifestyle hot party girl and then they break up because he wants to stay in and watch Netflix and she wants to take a really expensive impulse trip to Ibiza and do buckets of cocaine. Or the normie western girl who starts dating a gopnik because he seemed fun then realizes every weekend is gonna involve loud music and drinking 'till they drop from then on.

Just try to find someone you fit with effortlessly, even if it doesn't ever happen. Your life will be better for it.
 
You have just completely ignored it and didn't even process he was interested because women just expect men to do shit for them.
I honestly have never seen that directed at me. I’ve seen it aimed at women I know, men following them around like puppydogs. I’m aware of what it looks like.
Of course but at any point that you approached a man how did it go? if you started a convo with one how did they react? were you ever ignored by men? got hinted or even told to go away?
They were generally (almost exclusively) not interested at all. Conversations usually ok as long as it was a kind of student pub situation where you’re in a mixed group and there’s no expectation of romance, just a good argument. But there was never any attraction and nobody ever asked me out. Ever,
I have even been quite direct with it, (look I quite like you, would you like to go for a coffee ) and the answer was a polite no or quite harsh rejection. I wasn’t shooting above my grade either, generally liked the slightly dorky types. Such is life.
I don’t doubt that men get ignored, but the idea that every woman is simply drowning in offers of love from nice-but-not-models type of guys is not my experience for sure. Perhaps the internet has changed things significantly as it allows you to fish in a bigger pool.
 
I honestly have never seen that directed at me. I’ve seen it aimed at women I know, men following them around like puppydogs. I’m aware of what it looks like.

They were generally (almost exclusively) not interested at all. Conversations usually ok as long as it was a kind of student pub situation where you’re in a mixed group and there’s no expectation of romance, just a good argument. But there was never any attraction and nobody ever asked me out. Ever,
I have even been quite direct with it, (look I quite like you, would you like to go for a coffee ) and the answer was a polite no or quite harsh rejection. I wasn’t shooting above my grade either, generally liked the slightly dorky types. Such is life.
I don’t doubt that men get ignored, but the idea that every woman is simply drowning in offers of love from nice-but-not-models type of guys is not my experience for sure. Perhaps the internet has changed things significantly as it allows you to fish in a bigger pool.

At this point in the conversation there is definitely a *Scene Missing* here.
 
Warning, absolutely gigantic post incoming.

Like 68% of men ages 18-30 are single. How high are you standards if not one out of literally billions of young men is suitable?

Whatever enjoy dying alone I guess.

Correct, she wants men who'd rather fuck 21-22 year old than her and be can't handle it.

I gave you a heart but its mostly just because you asked for stickers not the antisemitism, though I do appreciate the pandering.

Make a dating profile as a woman and you will be flooded with men, all they literally have to do is just pick one. Even old women like these can get a guy, the problem is their standard for men is comically high in relation to what they offer (barren wombs). If they lower their standards to match their age, lack of fertility, dull personalities, use of terms like "delulu", then I'm sure they will be able to find a man who is their equal.

But an equal man is "ewww creepy gross and a LOSER"

On the opposite side, yes, because 99% of dating app profiles are dogs, partying, "hiking", social media whores, the same recycled generic answers to prompts stolen from TikTok/Instagram, "I like honesty, communication and traveling", princesses that expect men to humor them like a clown, just to name a few.

Let me show you one IRL example from MY experience

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Absolutely basic tier activities. That said she's not fat and not a single mother and not ugly so on my book, let's meet.

I’m sorry, it must be hard being so lonely.

Lol yep. Sadly all 180 of those DMs are from disgusting subhuman losers (not 6'5", no trust fund)

Any time I see "Trying to date is a nightmare... for women" article I roll my eyes so hard it hurts. The challenge for women in dating is sorting through 1000 readily available guys and min-max looking through every trait they have like a video game for the highest value that benefits them... it's almost like the alpha male grifters who she complains about and preach about being a high value male are successful by exploiting something that is very real because of them. The challenge for men is being one of those 1000 guys, having to put in all the effort of making contact and actually expending resources to attempt to even get the first date and having to take pretty much any chance that is given because they can't be picky and still end up ghosted 90% of the time. Obviously you can't paint women in such a completely broad stroke, but the women who are not like this are going to very quickly get into a relationship and probably stay in them for a reasonable amount of time once again leaving the market full of the min-maxers... at least they'll take one of the lucky guys with them too.

Oh well, at least the dynamic is funny when it reverses and the min-maxers who pass on many opportunities with men they would have been happy with but didn't match some specific quality perfectly age up and lose most of their value and they get mad at the younger generation of min-maxers getting with older, rich men.

Goddamn right. Women use dating apps like nerds use RPG character builders.

They're literally looking for Mr. PERFECT, not Mr. "He seems nice and has his shit well enough together"

Men do that same but only certain men get to fuck a new thot every weekend.

This is a good thing. These old ladies were ran through and their standards are still too high

Yep, they all want a Disney princess ending

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I don't even know how to approach women as a single man in a way that wouldn't get me trashed if I didn't meet her standards for some reason. There was a time "pretty boring guy with well paying job" would have at least had dating prospects but those days are long gone.

So true. I know men whice just given up and they're guys from cultures where an arrange marriage is a perfectly OK fallback.

Agree with the above posters. The sheer number of vapid, brainless, "Live/Laugh/Love" and "looking for the Travis to my Taytay" makes me think they grow these thots in labs.

Dear Christ it's so true. That and the incessant dog pics

It does kind of suck for women that a lot of guys get more desirable in their late 20s-early 30s. There's a big movement of women saying "nuh uh not true" but it's observable. They get out of their own heads, learn how to dress and style themselves, and start to understand what women like. So now those guys are thinking "wait a minute I'm doing great out here. I don't want to settle down. All these girls had their hoe phase, I want mine."
Of course if he waits too long he's going to age out as well >35-36, but try telling a 27-28 year old who just figured this whole thing out that he doesn't get to play a little bit.

Yep. Once men make some cash and learn to look nice they want to enjoy fucking all the women who didn't give them the time of day 5 years ago.

As annoying as it may be, would you prefer we tell you "Go pick out some cats!" ? or "Sucks to be you!" ?

There's some real "Fuck you Mom and Dad" energy flowing when someone gets that upset at basic kindness and generic platitudes from strangers.

At most you should just roll your eyes, not sperg out on your breakfast nook about how nobody understaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands you...

That's teenage angst, and you're way too old for that.

And now, some admittedly totally self-serving schadenfreude.

Honey, singledom set in for me at about 20 when I went to college and got the message from women like you that guys under 5' 5'' should just stay out of the bars, keep playing with their model trains and computer games, or whatever, and never even bother to LOOK at you... because you have standards.

I have no reciprocal sympathy for you failing to get a Chad by your late 30's, since they have their standards too.

Modern dating is largely toxic and unfair. A lot of people lose out, they run out of time and chances, and never find romantic success.

When I had to concede it was over for me? I was hurt.

But, I learned to live with it.

Your turn.

And you have the backing of the media on your side to try and let you down gently... I didn't.

Your landing is going to be a lot softer than a LOT of people's , so don't complain, it's unbecoming.

Yep. The shorter, unattractive or both men get it beaten into them FAST that they're subhuman trash who shouldn't even THINK they could have a shit with a woman under 300lbs.

Have any of them tried:

1. See a man you like.

2. Compliment him.

3. Buy him a drink.

4. Invite him out on a date with you.

There we go.... But "that's HARD"


Ahahaha lol. She's not for nasty land whale or fugly... She just wants a Mr. Perfect and he's busy fucking the 22 year old fitness influencer in Hawaii, Miami or the some other vacation destination

Think of the average Reddit soyposter with his updoot-generating perfectly orthodox opinions on all matters and realize that women are biologically predisposed to be even more susceptible to groupthink and social conformity than that.

Goddamn right. Women glom onto trends and groupthink so fucking fast it's nearly supernatural.


I'll give the ladies a break, I have a friend who is perpetually stuck with emasculated soyboy faggots or chudjaks as her options, and I wouldn't fuck em if I was in her position either, so I can see how that's tough.

On the other hand maybe like, try a little? Just by starting a conversation with a guy you're pretty likely to snatch him unless there's something seriously wrong with you, it's not hard.

"Anybody worth my time", you aren't entitled to shit.

But HE'S NOT A PERFECT SPECIMEN NEXT

She needs to find a Conservative, rich guy in his fifties and marry him. She's not going to find Chad Mr. Right because odds are, he's either perpetually single or already married to a woman of a much higher caliber than her. Fatal Attraction is about a 30-something BPD woman who goes nuts when a married Alpha rejects her. At some point in the movie, the woman gets hit on by a doughy, bald work colleague who could probably provide her with the lifestyle and security that she wants, but no. She wants Mr. Alpha. At some point, fashionable urban women like the article writer have to realize that their chances of getting the perfect man are near zero, and they have to settle, or risk spending the rest of their lives in Boxed Wine and Cat Land,

Lol, she'd probably whine that thw older man is trying to control her or something when he didn't allow her to take a girls trip to Cancun or something.

I wonder if this woman, or any of the others who moved to a bughive like NYC (LA/SF/Seattle/Philly/Chicago/etc) "to meet people" ever considered the irony of moving into their little pod, next to pod neighbors they don't know, avoiding other pod people on the street, and complaining on the internet that with six gorillion pod-dwellers around you still leave you more alone than ever...


She's so close...almost there...

So close yet so far

I won't be surprised if not being a trust fund baby is a disqualifier for 30% of women

True. Women that aren't fat and fugly literally want the top 10-20% of men and NOTHING else, barring the rare exception

And those men are forced to go the passport bro route just to even find a wife. If they cant, they either have to continuously brave the current year dating minefield... or just give up and goon. The former has ruin and the latter has ruin. Either way, dating in the west is dead.

Yep, even then the wrong two legged souvenir can wreck your life

For the average 20-29 year old here's our options

1. Single moms
2. Trannies (shit must be rough for someone to do that)
3. Alcoholic/drug addicts
4. Bossbitches
5. Over/under medicated
6. Bpd
7. Feminists

And all 7 are 70% likely to divorce & cheat on you and take everything you worked for. Can't go to Asia because they are becoming more progressive, filled with child trafficking & poverty that breeds the gold digging.

Don't forget gigantic fat asses with shit tattoos and their FUR BABIES

She looks like a tranny. Wide manly shoulders, massive face with a huge nose, high-set eyes.


Woman watches "Sex and the City", decides that as a busted-ass tranny-looking 30-something she's going to just show up at a restaurant and sidle up to some random 9/10 lawyer with a chiseled jaw who's dining alone, and it will be the start of a whirlwind romance.

I will never get tired of seeing women reap the whirlwind after spending 15 years sowing the wind and taking advantage of a dating market stacked insanely in their favor.

You do not get to have your cake and eat it too.

AHAAH

This is not really a solution and never was.

You average man, even in the internet age, does not have the resources to date abroad.

"Screw you all I'm going to Asia" is only ever really tried by a fractional percentage of the loudmouths who threaten to do so.

It's the right's equivalent of "I'm gonna move to Canada!" .

Yes, it happens, but too many act like it's a viable social movement/way to pressure modern women into being less picky. It doesn't happen near enough to be a factor.

YEP, most men cannot afford to go to Asia, S. American, wherever to import a wife.

Many that do get turbo fucked in the divorce 3 years later.

One time this fat girl asked for me to buy her a drink at a bar and I said no. After calling me an incel she brought up the fact that she had fucked a USC football player and that I couldn't compete. W*men really are dumb and don't seem to understand men's nature.

Goddamn man, feels. Other guys get screamed at, called "fucking incels creep losers" and simulator they DARE to approach a woman while ugly or get the disgusted face as she's says "NO, not interested"

lmfao at being single in Austin for the past 7 years. It's a her problem at this point.

Go to any bar on the Drag and talk to a random dude.

So she'll find a wannabe cholo, a married man looking for a side piece of a tranny?

Can't do that either, women have decided that male friends falling for them is creepy and a "betrayal."

Indeed. It's considered ULTRA BAD if you ask a female friend out on a date or..... Worse z EXPRESS ROMANTIC interest as THAT'S PREDATORY AND GROSS 🤢

I’ve been taking up more outdoor activities, which I would have done otherwise, in trying to put myself out there but I never see anyone my age actually doing anything. It’s always mothers with their kids or the elderly. The only activity I consistently see young women participate in is getting shitfaced.

That and shopping and eating.

Literally alcohol, eating and spending money 🤑

To a lot of modern women, 5'8 Brian in middle management is not even human. He's not on their radar of potential partners. He is INVISIBLE to these broads. They don't even know he exists. A man can be perfect marriage material, but if he's not the best the woman has ever had, they don't even notice he exists.

Brian is considered by most women to be subhuman scum. If a woman deigns to speak to him she'll be fatz a single other, or horrific looking.... Or all three

The longer you associate with someone under the pretense of non-romantic views, the longer they'll see you as a friend. A woman will eventually stop seeing you as a potential romantic partner regardless of how compatible you are. They want to see you as a romantic interest. They LIKE the game. Being friends with a girl before asking her out is terrible advice and it always was. Don't be a fucking NEET. Be direct. When you don't, you waste her time and more importantly, yours

Yep. It's called predatory now too.

I just don’t see this from experience. I have never had men throwing themselves at me.

Well, that's probably because you're a 5 foot otter in a lab coat. That can be a bit intimidating. 😜

Man y'all better be really careful with the whole "find yourself a church girl" thing. It dramatically increases the chances of having to deal with some girl's batshit psycho fundie religious family that they might have, and then they start breathing down your neck to get procreating ASAP pretty much as soon as they find out you two sat on the same living room couch together. When I was a much younger man I was physically assaulted by an uncle of a "church girl" I was seeing because of this.

Don't forget a LOT of church girls are ex whores or mentally unstable.

Were the multiple fit, well dressed, normal speaking, good career men that were there "just not your tyyyyyype"?

Yes.... They literally WERE Not GOOD ENOUGH for those women.

I've been to speed dating events where the guys were 2-3 notches above the women and even they go the cold shoulder.

the sad part is there's a good chance she purposely let herself go once a man is secure. Remember, if a woman says she feels unhappy in marriage that's a reason for divorce. But if a man doesn't feel sexual attraction to his wife who has ballooned no judge will be sympathetic

Christ those pictures and video were legit nightmare fuel.

She got fat as fuck and bragged about it.

Absolutely disgusting. I hope her husband is seeing some stupid hot girl on the side.

You have, you just never noticed or you were raised a muslim female existence where you weren't allowed to leave the house and only saw family and even then with all the muslim inbreeding..... I promise you.
This is what dudes in here are talking about never even being on the RADAR. "He's just being nice carrying that printer over to my house"


I also just want to point out that a lot of the especially aging dating pool of entitled roasties who not only feel entitled but write articles about how entitled they feel and its mens fault, its not that good women don't exist its that they are removed from the dating pool early and permanently by any dude with a positive IQ. The cock- carousel thots are the ones that are consistently single.

Yep. The "Good girls" get married or otherwise settled in a long term relationship in college, grad school or before 25...

why doesn't she just download hinge

Let me show you the ladies on there

Note, her and the other I put higher up are ones I'd consider "nice".

Went on a Date last weekend, off Hinge (not pictured here). 1.5 hour meet n chat, thought it went well..next morning didn't respond to me message with my number and has unmatched... Lol

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Women are complaining because what gains have been made there are always large organised efforts to take them away again. Women do not have easy access to abortion in america any more. It's like MGTOW
Yes they do. In the worst case scenario they have to take a road trip. The media articles are just feminist LARPing a Handmaid's Tale because they're psychotic nut jobs.

if men actually went away and stopped trying to fuck with women's autonomy, women would have nothing to complain about.
Lies. It's women's nature to complain. That's the best and worst things about them. Women have a constant nagging feeling to organize and optimize. It's literally ingrained in their brain patterns. So to that end, they'll always find SOMETHING to complain about. It's their role in this world. Men have no impact on that.

Porn is not propped up by women. The porn industry is owned by men and produced by men, and every branch of sex work ends up being controlled by pimps even OF. Every time there is a 'union of sex workers' it gets revealed to be a front for pimps within two years, it's an inevitability of the industry. Women just get paid more (for a very short shelf life) because it's the only way to keep women coming in to supply the demand, and even then there are constant problems with illegal uploads, revenge porn, and trafficking. That women get paid more just drives men nuts and apparently makes up for the inhumanity of the inudstry (it doesn't).
That is also lies. Nigga have you talked to a stripper? Or a strip club owner? Or a porn star? Most women in the porn industry do it voluntarily. They do it for money. Guess what? Women like money just as much as men do. Sure there's your underground black market shit. But the reality is most women just like money and do it for money. They take advantage of guys and use their asses to con them out of cash. You're wrong, women absolutely control the sex industry. Contrary to popular belief, catching, torturing, and breaking a woman to become a sex slave is difficult. And time consuming. It's much easier to get women who are willing to do this job and control them with money.

It's not that I don't know women exist who voluntarily do porn, it's that they're not the majority of the industry. People like Sasha Grey or Mia Khalifa - women who had other options but chose it anyway - stand out because they are so rare and then they always end up regretting it because of how brutal porn is to women.
Okay, but saying "I do it because I make more money than my day job" is not "involuntarily" doing porn. That IS a majority of sex workers. You're just flat out wrong.

Incels literally refuse to date the women who are available to them, and even complain about women who aren't, because they're too fat or are single mothers or they have knees, so that is bullshit.
If incels have choices, they aren't incels. The women "in their league" aren't paying attention to them. They're been dicked down by Chad too many times on his slow drunk nights and think they deserve him. That's why they're incels. If you could force somebody to date you just because they're in your league, nobody would be single.
 
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