Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Zemblan Physics]

@Otterly Culture bound illness is one of those conditions where, once you’ve cracked the code, you can’t NOT see it. And the rest of the world that doesn’t see it seems insane.

Right now, it’s obviously Long Covid: same ol’ story (vague symptoms, mostly women, no biomarkers), yet MSM and some policy makers are all surprised Pikachu like it’s a completely new and serious illness. Drives me a little mad sometimes.

 

[Otterly]

Right now, it’s obviously Long Covid

I’ve seen a few high flying career women get it and each one I read I get this vague flicker of ‘yeah, I get it. It’s fucking exhausting is t it? I get why you want to stay in bed.’
Is it Germany where they have these rehab holidays for knackered mums? You get a couple of weeks in an old fashioned seaside or mountain resort. Brilliant idea.
Rest is so important and we dont get enough of it. Especially Americans with so little holiday, ritual is inportant too. We’ve lost most of that in society as well

 

[vegan cats]

lmao @ this spoiler tag when ~ half of the things you quoted were me asking a direct question hoping someone had an answer.

This was an awesome necro (if there even is such a thing in an omnibus thread) and confirmed nearly all of my weird gut feelings about how this is very bad for the horse and of no real benefit to the human.

Happy to help! Part of me wants to go munchie hunting for more service minis because this is such a weirdly fascinating rabbithole, but I also have very low MATI tolerance lol

What stigma against mental illness? Half the posters on Twitter have diagnosed themselves with AuDHD, and kids on TikTok are convinced their headmates are totally real DID symptoms.

No but you see those are the cute sympathetic mental illnesses. The kind you can use to justify shitty behavior and no one can say anything or it’s ableism, and also the kind you can turn into an aesthetic (like DID chicks and their rp character sheets I mean alters)

Munchies are probably well aware how society would view them if they came clean about the real reason they munch. People don’t take kindly to those who waste medical resources because everyone has had an experience in their life where they or a loved one had some illness/hospital related trauma and they know how bad the healthcare system is. It’s why no one calls them out on their bs (aside from not wanting to look like the asshole who boollied a poor sick girl) because normal people genuinely don’t even consider someone would fake all of this just for attention. All they see is a sad young woman who had her life robbed by chronic illness and is trying to make the best of it, in spite of having 50 ports a wheelchair neckbrace and weekly surgeries. Normal people don’t subject themselves to this just for instagram likes. Malingerers are a little different because there’s a financial incentive involved but even those slip through the cracks if you don’t claim to have cancer and instead something vague like the combo platter.

It’s why you also never see people admit they’re just BPD and instead larp autism or whatever, because they know what the average person would think. The only people I’ve ever seen who use BPD for their MBI grift are edgelords who would probably also publicly flaunt a NPD diagnosis because they think it makes them cool like an anime villain. Screw doing actual awareness campaigns and changing how society views things, that’s too much work!

 

[bliblblblbbllb]

I have a attached a few screenshots of people lying, over exaggerating or using a relative’s disability to skip lines.

I know there are friendlier types of Disney rides, but I feel like if you have a Panic Disorder so bad you cannot wait in a line, you're not fit to go onto an amusement park ride for the safety of others. At least that's the line I'd be saying if I were king. The ride attendants shutting the ride down to haul someone's ass off is a last resort, not a reasonable accommodation. If you have any reason to think you might not be able to make it- like there's a reasonable concern you're going to have a panic attack- you can't go on at all. That's a liability. Doubly so for anything related to passing out or falling.

Spoiler: bliblblb spots a run-of-the-mill munchie

I encountered a munchie in the wild. Through just a scroll through her social media, the story pieced together really put a bad taste in my mouth. She eloped with her highschool sweetheart, and then went from perfect health to "wheelchair user due to EDS" and all the associated common bullshit diagnoses within a year of marriage. Power wheelchair but also a cute canes, a manual wheelchair, a rollator suddenly. Feeding tubes, TPN, foley catheter. Giant walls of stuffed animals and fake nails. Makes her money as an "independent artist"- most of the art is just shilling "zebra" type memes. Worst part? Her husband is her caretaker.... but he seems to have an actual progressive disability.

A lot of her content is little shitty tiktok style clapbacks to people's relatively mundane comments about "is this really a good dynamic for your husband?" where she basically just TikTok-dances in response going "Uh sweaty how about you try to be more inclusive"

I may or may not be archiving shit as we speak, however the unfortunate reality is that this bitch's story is so incredibly generic in the munchie world that I do not think there is much risk of her being identified and DFEing due to what I've said. I am also not sure there is anything new it would actually add to the discussion because holy shit they're all like clones of one another. She also does not really post any long, entertaining rants. It's all just lipsyncing to Tiktok memes or little dances with two lines of text, or photo collages. I can't handle that much brainrot.

I feel really bad for her husband. It's my impression that he literally never dated anyone else, and she really, really, REALLY leans into the "In Sickness and in Health" line. She also posted passive-aggressive tiktoks going "I WILL NEVER HAVE CHILDREN! I would simply die from the stress due to my severe hEDS! My weak, childlike body could never withstand it!" And in general everything she made had strange, infantilized, "I want to be taken care of like a child forever and play with literal toys and sleep in a mountain of stuffed animals and never EVER work a real job" thoughts behind it. She looked totally normal when they married. Perfect health.

Imagine thinking you're going to have a wife, a partner in life- and literally within the first year of marriage she completely self-destructs, shaves her head and starts dressing like an insane person, starts larping that she can't walk and makes you take care of her like a baby, and rants online about how she's going to be sick forever and ever and you're going to take care of her until your own health goes to shit due to your [real] health problems. What the hell.

 

[Autistic Asparagus]

I can’t quote you for some reason.

But they aren’t talking about the gentle rides. They want to get on tower of terror or Tron or Everest. All the big ticket rides with longer lines. Honestly they should do what universal does and require medical documentation.

 

[GenociderSyo]

They just had to become stricter about DAS because of people like that. And those that would sell access to someone else's DAS passes.

 

[unwieldy_object]

I’ve seen a few high flying career women get it and each one I read I get this vague flicker of ‘yeah, I get it. It’s fucking exhausting is t it? I get why you want to stay in bed.’
Is it Germany where they have these rehab holidays for knackered mums? You get a couple of weeks in an old fashioned seaside or mountain resort. Brilliant idea.
Rest is so important and we dont get enough of it. Especially Americans with so little holiday, ritual is inportant too. We’ve lost most of that in society as well

I remember from when I was a teenager that a friend's mum was rheumatic, she got to go to a special hospital for a week or two like once a year or something which was ostensibly for "treatment" but she called it her "rest cure" and when she was done there she went back to work and she said that was the sole reason she could keep working.
Also, they used to pay for people with rheumatism to get a week off in a sunny place like the Canary Islands or Spain because it was so beneficial for them and the cost of giving them that meant they needed less of other treatments.

Today I don't think that exist anymore, except for certain charities that pay for the sun vacation if you are deemed to need it.

 

[Autistic Asparagus]

They just had to become stricter about DAS because of people like that. And those that would sell access to someone else's DAS passes.

I hadn’t heard of selling them.

But the people in these groups are almost giddy if their child gets an Autism or ADHD diagnosis they can exploit. And a lot of the kids are future Chris Chans because their mommies are “protecting” them from anything inconvenient or slightly uncomfortable. The vast majority of autistic kids can wait in lines and they need to learn how to be a functional human being in general.

 

[Catmannjew]

I love Disney seething. "Oh no we are never coming back." Do you think Disney fucking cares? I can tell you right now it doesn't. None of those are like das worthy, if you have a panic disorder and PTSD you are pretty limited anyway, those lines move faster.

Spoiler: Minor Power level

You have to get the pass like two days in advance now. I know this because recently I just went to Disney spontaneously with a group. One person who went was disabled looked into it for his disability, but not having it would not ruin the day.
I have never been through the park without one due to a severely disabled sibling .Because of using it properly (Ie only doing only rides they could do) there were a lot of rides I had never been on

 

[GenociderSyo]

I hadn’t heard of selling them.

Doesn't happen as often now but was pretty common in the past.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

If you have a severe anxiety or panic disorder, a packed amusement park is the last place you should be.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

If you have a severe anxiety or panic disorder, a packed amusement park is the last place you should be.

Hundred percent this. And I suspect most people with those conditions legitimately (at least those for whom that environment would be a trigger) would stay well away...

But we are in the munchie thread, so I'm not surprised to see a buncha fakers Not Getting It that going would be a bad idea in the first place and claiming they're being discriminated against because they can't pretend to be speshul now.

 

[athousandrustynails]

Disneyland is munchie mecca.

 

[Autistic Asparagus]

Disneyland is munchie mecca.

Disneyland hasn’t changed their DAS rules yet. So no one complaining about them at the moment. Disney world just implemented it.

But I definitely agree, both parks are filled with these people. The amount of fake service dogs in the parks these days is ridiculous. I saw a comment saying someone witnessed a “service dog” die in the park because of heat stroke.

 

[IBSnarkin]

So I just came across Dianna Cowern (a science YouTuber) for the first time due to this tweet:

And I immediately smelt a rat. It really comes across like she (and/or her husband) is dramatising or exaggerating at the very least. I think maybe she had “long covid” for a few months and enjoyed the attention so much that it continued indefinitely. Something is just really fishy about it all.

I had a look back and she was discussed before, but there wasn’t really a consensus on if she’s munching. There were points made that she doesn’t post enough to be a munchie but I don’t know about that. They usually have common tactics and a lot of narcissism but I don’t think that rules her out.

 

[NoodleFucker3000]

Anyone else get sketched out by the husband speaking to doctor,not her? Likeim seeing a red flag here.

 

[Autistic Asparagus]

Anyone else get sketched out by the husband speaking to doctor,not her? Likeim seeing a red flag here.

And tweeting as her is weird too.

 

[ChubbyTubbyBabeee]

She can't move, eat or tolerate detergent on someone's clothes, but somehow has neatly plucked/waxed eyebrows? Please...

 

[The Hoh Rainforest]

Anyone else get sketched out by the husband speaking to doctor,not her? Likeim seeing a red flag here.

Kudos for her success in man-servant obedience training.

 

[capybaja fresh]

So I just came across Dianna Cowern (a science YouTuber) for the first time due to this tweet

I was going to be snarky and say that I bet she reeks, but her bedding looks suspiciously clean, and even freshly washed in some pictures. I wonder how they're doing that if she can't walk and can't bear the smell of detergent.

As an aside, can long covid grifters all go in this thread or should they have a separate one? There are a LOT of them on TikTok and Twitter. I can't recall her username right now but there's an Australian girl on TikTok who is currently doing "first time out of my bed in x years" type videos with a very put-on delicate sick fragile waif voiceover that just grinds my gears.