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Übertroon said:
Both Atton Rand and Hk-47 give their own takes on how ti deal with jedi.
Atton talks about being taught to cloud your intentions by filling your head with mind junk and doing a lot of improvising.
HK tells you to ditch blasters and instead rely on explosives, minefields, and other traps.
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Indeed. Neither would walk up to a Jedi and then say, "Attack me."
 
Am I wrong for guessing that the twin thing is going to be a twist itself and the two girls actually both have the same body. It'll end up being multiple personalities or force ghost possession or something otherwise idiotic.

They'll use the twist to explain her surviving the spaceship crash and having the same haircut, and laugh that people thought those were mistakes, while totally failing to understand their complete ineptitude on every level means that "the people who made it are stupid" is a totally valid conclusion to reach.
 
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robobobo said:
I always figured that force sensitivity was a matter of degrees and every living thing had some shred of it, at least until the yuuuzan vong showed up; the question's whether it has enough to do any useful space magic or not, and if you don't that's that. Sure, with a lifetime of hardcore training maybe you could levitate a grain of sand or some shit, but without any gas in the tank you'll never accomplish a useful act through the force.
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That's exactly what they did with the midichlorian thing. The higher your count, the more Force-sensitive you are. Everyone has some level of it, but some have a higher level than others.

The Vong used to be Force-sensitive like the Miraluka, but something cut them off from the Force, and only one Force-using Vong remained.
 
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WaltherPPGAY said:
Am I wrong for guessing that the twin thing is going to be a twist itself and the two girls actually both have the same body. It'll end up being multiple personalities or force ghost possession or something otherwise idiotic.

They'll use the twist to explain her surviving the spaceship crash and having the same haircut, and laugh that people thought those were mistakes, while totally failing to understand their complete ineptitude on every level means that "the people who made it are stupid" is a totally valid conclusion to reach.
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Nothing's off the table given how incompetent the show is. Multiple personality would probably create more plotholes than it solves though as it would require OSHA to be in two different places at the same time and ultimately come to the conclusion that she is guilty as fuck.
 
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WaltherPPGAY said:
Am I wrong for guessing that the twin thing is going to be a twist itself and the two girls actually both have the same body. It'll end up being multiple personalities or force ghost possession or something otherwise idiotic.

They'll use the twist to explain her surviving the spaceship crash and having the same haircut, and laugh that people thought those were mistakes, while totally failing to understand their complete ineptitude on every level means that "the people who made it are stupid" is a totally valid conclusion to reach.
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I don't know about that, but you are definitely in a wrong for giving a shit about this trashfire of a show.
 
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robobobo said:
I always figured that force sensitivity was a matter of degrees and every living thing had some shred of it, at least until the yuuuzan vong showed up; the question's whether it has enough to do any useful space magic or not, and if you don't that's that. Sure, with a lifetime of hardcore training maybe you could levitate a grain of sand or some shit, but without any gas in the tank you'll never accomplish a useful act through the force.
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I assume a few people here have listened to Little Platoon's breakdown of the democratization of the Force?

The Force, as its presented in the original and prequal trilogies, is purely in terms of have or have not. The vast majority of sentient life can't use it at all, in the unlikely event they're even aware of it, which, narratively, makes the Jedi both enviable and aspirational, and their destruction in Revenge of the Sith the core of the great tragedy. Not only do you have to have the fortune to be able to use it, you have to have the mindset, the discipline and the training to control it. The point of the Yuuzhan Vong from what little I remember was that they had been cut off from the greater Living Force by their homeworld (a mobile living planet with a very silly name), which was meant to be it's own tragedy and symbolic of their racial fall into unnatural fanaticism and barbarism. To not be a part of the Living Force is to be something corrupted or unnatural.

Because Disney had no plans about how any of this was supposed to go, how the Force works is basically up to whoever is writing the current thing. It started off well - in The Force Awakens, Kylo Ren and Rey are implied to have the Force through familial ties, with Rey's parentage and assumed source of her powers and visions being part of the mystery of that film. In Rogue One and Solo, how much the Force affects the actions of Chirrut Îmwe, Qi'ra and Drydan Voss is left ambiguous beyond that they're empowered by a spiritualistic knowledge and belief in it - that means they act as intermediaries between the relative normie characters and the big Force sensitive heros and villains of the main saga. The Last Jedi, Rise of Skywalker and The Mandalorian all go back and forth between how much familial inheritance matters and to the degree that the Force can be artificially manipulated, something that was explored in the 'Legacy' EU as well.

It's Ashoka that shits the bed by using the 'it flows through everything' line to justify a character, Sabine Wren, with no history, relationship or ties to the Force suddenly being able to use it because she really wanted to. It's very stupid because suddenly the inability to use the Force is implicitly because you're not trying hard enough. The fantasy and spiritual dimension of the Force as a character journey device and experience is simply not compatible with Disney's absolute refusal to allow their female protagonists to actually earn their strengths and their powers. Sabine's arc in the show is one of learning to believe in herself and her right to have that power, not to believe in something greater than herself, and it's this infusion of narcissism and entitlement in the belief that it's empowering that makes the Force completely uninteresting every time Disney try and do anything with it, because they simply don't understand that democratization of power makes power valueless.
 
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WaltherPPGAY said:
Am I wrong for guessing that the twin thing is going to be a twist itself and the two girls actually both have the same body. It'll end up being multiple personalities or force ghost possession or something otherwise idiotic.

They'll use the twist to explain her surviving the spaceship crash and having the same haircut, and laugh that people thought those were mistakes, while totally failing to understand their complete ineptitude on every level means that "the people who made it are stupid" is a totally valid conclusion to reach.
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I could believe that, since it's so stupid that it's something I could see Disney do. Another good hypothesis I've heard is the rejected Kylo Ren bootleg that mimics Venom's look (again, Acolyte has strong Morbius Energy), is probably gonna be one of their two gay moms. I'd not be shocked at all for them to do another surprise reveal of that character being a chick and who is lame and gay

Speaking of which, they tried to lie about views being like 4.8 million, but that's for both episodes of the premiere, not a single episode. Also, given this is less than a month after they lost a shitload of money from Peltz leaving and their stocks collapsing, expect them to rejigger what counts as a view to pump these views up to that number.

Even then it still did worse than Gatwa's Dr. What despite that being far more based on British numbers, which is fucking hilarious.
 
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‘The Acolyte’ Creator Leslye Headland Wants To Do A Live-Action ‘Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic’ Project Centered On Kreia: “Start Writing Emails, Start Crowdfunding!”​

In proving that she is apparently a one-note pony when it comes to storytelling, following her creation of the The Acolyte, showrunner Leslye Headland has voiced her interest in doing another Star Wars adaptation based on a female villain with a ‘grey’ conception of the Force, this time in the form of a live-action Knights of the Old Republic project focused on the villain Kreia – otherwise known as Darth Traya.

The former assistant to Harvey Weinstein professed her desire to take on the fan-favorite video game series (or more specifically its second entry, given her exact mention of Kreia) during a recent interview given to Brazillian entertainment news outlet Omelete.

Asked if she had any Star Wars ‘dream projects’ she’d like to work on after The Acolyte, Headland asserted (as machine translated via DeepL), “I’ve always wanted to explore a live-action version of the Knights of the Old Republic game and the character of Kreia. I think it would be a very interesting story to bring to life.”

Pressed further if said adaptation would possibly feature an appearance by the first KOTOR game’s iconic Darth Revan, Headland conclusively declared, “Well, start writing some emails! Start crowdfunding.”

A main character in Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, Kreia is a former Jedi whose obsessive desire to understand the Force drives her to take more and more ‘ethically questionable’ approaches to studying the power and teaching it to her students.

Kicked out of the Jedi Order out of a fear that her unorthodox teachings had directly inspired her former Padawan, the soon-to-be-Darth Revan, to launch a ‘Force civil war’, Kreia soon comes to believe that not only are the Jedi unworthy of their power, but that they should be eliminated wholesale for the good of the galaxy.

Giving herself over to the Dark Side and taking on the name of Darth Treya, the aging Force master embarks on a shadow plot to manipulate the galactic order into imploding upon itself – starting with a Jedi Exile known as Meetra Surik (aka the canon player character in KOTOR II).

Sound familiar? It should, as noted above, this ‘the Force is ambiguous, the Jedi are the actual villains’ set-up is near-exactly the same one that serves as the basis of The Acolyte.

All in all, while The Acolyte is already proving that Headland fundamentally misunderstands the core of Star Wars, her being given a KOTOR project would additionally confirm that she is, at the end of a day, a one-trick narrative pony.
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God I just want Star Wars to truly die already
leave kotor and everything legends related the fuck alone
even without her, there is nothing you can do that would adapt kotor to anything beyond a game that wouldn't be underwhelming as player choice and interaction with the world and characters is what made these games so special
 
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Dynamite Bean said:
God I just want Star Wars to truly die already
leave kotor and everything legends related the fuck alone
even without her, there is nothing you can do that would adapt kotor to anything beyond a game that wouldn't be underwhelming as player choice and interaction with the world and characters is what made these games so special
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Not just choice/interaction, but there is a shitton of side stories & background information, and you dig as deep into it as you care to do so. It has depth that people like because they can go deep into what interests them and largely ignore what doesn't. You can't do that in film.
 
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Gondolindrim said:
I used to be excited at the idea of a show all about the Jedi Order but Disney's made it abundantly clear that they hate the Jedi Order and want to cater to the r/atheism brand of "Organized Religion bad."
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The people in charge are fake nerds. I know rabid fedora atheists eternally stuck in the 2000s who turn into devoted, godly men and women once the weird dice start rolling. Some have even formed fictional religious orders in the autistic corners of social media. These writers/showrunners can't even pretend to leave their fucking bubble.
 
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Adamska said:
I could believe that, since it's so stupid that it's something I could see Disney do. Another good hypothesis I've heard is the rejected Kylo Ren bootleg that mimics Venom's look (again, Acolyte has strong Morbius Energy), is probably gonna be one of their two gay moms. I'd not be shocked at all for them to do another surprise reveal of that character being a chick and who is lame and gay
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I read a comment that speculated the masked villain is the bald green Jedi who is played by the showrunner's wife. Unless you're a mindless shill and consoomer, it doesn't really matter at this point.

 
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Pentex said:
Asked if she had any Star Wars ‘dream projects’ she’d like to work on after The Acolyte, Headland asserted (as machine translated via DeepL), “I’ve always wanted to explore a live-action version of the Knights of the Old Republic game and the character of Kreia. I think it would be a very interesting story to bring to life.”
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What a very odd thing to write...
 
Vect said:
It's Ashoka that shits the bed by using the 'it flows through everything' line to justify a character, Sabine Wren, with no history, relationship or ties to the Force suddenly being able to use it because she really wanted to. It's very stupid because suddenly the inability to use the Force is implicitly because you're not trying hard enough. The fantasy and spiritual dimension of the Force as a character journey device and experience is simply not compatible with Disney's absolute refusal to allow their female protagonists to actually earn their strengths and their powers.
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And you hit the nail on the head, even if the Force worked as a genetic lottery the writers would still fuck everything up in the exact same way so Force usage being available to everyone is a non-issue compared to the writers being pathologically unable to resist making their characters into perfect little snowflakes who get everything they want because it's "empowering", somehow.
Adamska said:
Even then it still did worse than Gatwa's Dr. What despite that being far more based on British numbers, which is fucking hilarious.
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Dr. What was also a traditional broadcast, and there's a lot of people who'll watch any old crap if that's what's on.
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I would pay that guy to read me the Complete Works of Charles Dickens every night
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Why? He sounds like faggot.
 
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