Mega Rad Gun Thread

What if you size up to 308 like this guy did?

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So that's chambered in the Soviet 7.62x39 cartridge, that while of a similar bullet dimension to American .308 (7.62x51) it is a lighter bullet (123gr generally for Soviet vs 150gr and above for American) and travels slower. For a proper .308 AR you would be looking at something like an Aero M5 or one of the PSA M110 clones.
 
Like if a bunch of ANTIFA supersoldiers fed the highest quality of soy and niggerdick decide to strap on IV and storm the gates of my Fortified Swamp, I want to gun them down.

It's kind of absurd that it's $150 for a L4 plate but you can't buy rounds to pierce it. How am I supposed to protect my constitutional freedom to be online?
If you're worried, take a look at any of the Leftist Gun Owner or Tranny Gun Owner online areas. These niggers spend all their money on the pride patches for their plate carrier, 2/3rds of em don't even have iron sights on their guns. The government is who I'd be concerned about. If they show up, it's oopsie daisy William Wallace day anyway.
 
It's kind of absurd that it's $150 for a L4 plate but you can't buy rounds to pierce it. How am I supposed to protect my constitutional freedom to be online?


I looked this up and I am seeing information that green and black tip ammo for 5.56 appear legal, but I am seeing reports that green tip does not pierce L4.
This problem can easily be solved if you have 5,000 for a rifle and 2,000 for ammunition laying around.

and you get lucky and buy one in .277 that actually works

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Okay, so no standard NATO cartridge will pierce L4 plates. Is that the consensus?
Almost no cartridge that can be comfortably shoulder fired can penetrate level IV at this given time. With the exception of absolute unicorn rounds like .308 M993, you will not be getting through the armor.
 
Okay, so no standard NATO cartridge will pierce L4 plates. Is that the consensus?
No standard INFANTRY cartridge will pierce L4 plates. Just take the 5.56, ammo is still somewhat affordable, good quality rifles are cheap, and recoil is low enough that you can put down a large volume of rounds relatively accurately.
 
Okay, so no standard NATO cartridge will pierce L4 plates. Is that the consensus?
They won't. But if you fire 10 rounds in a matter of seconds, something squishy is getting hit. Capacity is important. Most engagements are shooting at the combatant, not necessarily aiming for specific spots on the body. Of course you can train for that, but if rounds are going your way too, you're just trying to put something ON target.
 
What about shotguns?
The advantage to a shotgun in this scenario is the patterning of buckshot. However be aware that shotgun pellets travel much slower than rifle bullets and will be entirely stopped by any kind of hard or most soft armors. Again shot placement would be an absolute necessity, hips and head. Use nothing less than 12 Gauge.
 
What about shotguns?
Shotguns are in a worse place for armor-piercing. The vast majority of shotgun rounds will be stopped by soft body armor, which is traditionally level II or IIIA. They are no better than pistols in that area. You can get force imparted with slugs, but then you're losing possible distance and still not guaranteeing that you do much beyond collapse a lung.
 
What about shotguns?
Now THAT'S a different can of worms. There are loads out there that are expensive, and specialty, which have defeated LVL4. We're talking 12 gauge slugs made of non-standard materials such as brass or bronze. But something like buckshot at a reasonable distance will be effective, as you're effectively firing a handful of 9mm, all at the same time, with a spread that may hit plate, leg, shoulder, neck, etc.....
 
In all honesty, the type of faggots most likely to try and approach your door are too poor/stupid to figure out putting together a decent kit. The ones that put together that they might need body armor fall for the scams of getting some shit like AR500 plates (great for shooting targets, horrible scammy body armor. Even with their "spall coating" there's plenty of videos showing spalling still flying out of the vest and hitting the wearer in what would be their neck/chin.) Trannies and antifa fags usually just buy knockoff garbage from Amazon and call it a day. You could get an AR-10 style rifle chambered in .308 if you still think you'll need something with more ass behind it than 5.56 and .308 is a lot more affordable than 6.5 Creedmore.

Shotguns also won't penetrate armor. Plates rated for IIIA (up to .44 Magnum) will stop shotgun rounds. My bedside gun is an MP5, but I do also have a MK18 (10.3" 5.56) close by if worst case scenario ever happened. For your case since you've had the mentally unhinged show up at your door before, 5.56 would still be your best bet for an all around scenario gun.
 
I don't hop onto the slug train as much because breaking somebody's ribs does not stop them from firing back at you. I don't want to give you the false expectation that the armor issue is solved with slugs.
I mean you fire one into the chest and follow up with several shells of buckshot. They are dead at that point, you've hit something.
 
Okay, so no standard NATO cartridge will pierce L4 plates. Is that the consensus?
You should also keep this in mind. Even if you shot someone with say a .308 within 50m directly in the chest with lv 4 armor… they might not be “dead” but they would be throughly incapacitated with broken ribs/punctured lung/ cracked sternum… etc… the plates stop penetration but their chest is still going to absorb the kinetic energy and fuck them up.
 
I don't subscribe to the ideas of, "dw about it they won't do that", because if I talk about my guns and they know it can't defeat L4 and they're going to cause problems, they'll get that. Don't forget a lot of these troons are gun spergs or even ex-military. Greta Gustava (TLL) who, because of the forum, is basically disgraced and excommunicado from the cult of trans for the unforgiveable crime of gay sacrilege, is ex-US military and has posted videos of himself shooting to try and scare me.
 
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