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We live in a cursed timeline where this isn't immediately offered a 4-episode trial run with a modest budget while a bunch of untalented hags are running a 319 million dollar netflix show into the fucking ground after chasing off Henry-fucking-Cavill. I guarantee this animator could get a show off the ground with a livable wage for them and whatever crew they need to crank out some animation. Certainly wouldn't need no 300 million, especially when this person did this one just cause they love The Witcher. Witcher has the potential to be a massive franchise and Netflix fumbled the bag so fucking hard. It's got romance and handsome swordsmen for the ladies, drop-dead-beautiful sorcerors, political intrigue, and monster-hunting for guys, and everyone loves the adventurous swashbuckling genre that this series vaguely nestles into, but-no, we gotta hand this off to a buncha harpies whose talent is probably better served as producers on The View and watch all that potential just shrivel on the vine.

I have a theory that a lot of studio execs are just hiring people around them at the time for these things, and all the people around them are untalented gremlins who only hang around because that's where the money is. They don't have a dream, they just have some half-baked vanity project and aspirations of living in an LA penthouse suite on a fatcat's dime, so when they get handed a show that's not the vague idea they had in mind when they set up in a California flophouse to start chasing bigwigs they throw a fucking temper-tantrum and do whatever the fuck they want and nosedive the IP faster than the cocaine disappears at the Hollywood party where they got the gig. I just think corpos should be investing literally anywhere other than directly around them. Fucking find people who care about the things you have the keys to and lend it to them along with the cost of taking care of their basic needs. They'll turn around a good product, they were doing it for free a week ago, y'know?
 
Is Peter Chung or Aeon Flux or whatever considered western animation?

It owes more to Western surrealism than the Japanese animation going on at the time so I'd say yes.

My ranking of the franchise
War (one of the masterpieces of animation, its a classic all on its own. I encourage anyone who hasn't seen it to go watch it. Its easy to find (not the shit version on youtube) and its only 5 minutes and change)
Tide
Pilot the other shorts
Leisure

The full episodes (imo generally much inferior to the shorts as the weirdness is the main ingredient. Theres nothing wrong with weirdness, theres plenty of weirdness in the shorts but they had a lot of cleverness mixed in with roughly equal measure whereas the weirdness here tends to be more prominent. But there are good episodes and moments still.

The movie.
 
Speaking of Chung, think he's closeted or something? I've never seen an attractive female character of his.


the nurse in world record is decent looking. At least when compared to today where its mandatory to mess up the design of female characters and purposely make them ugly for feminism.
 
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I'm surprised no one thought of making a horror movie version of Gumby. I had friends who told me they were scared of him when they were kids.
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One of my earliest memories if not my earliest memory was watching a horror show/movie that had gumby in it then having a nightmare about him/it. When I woke up I attacked my Gumby and tried to bite his head off.
 
Don't these people realize that all this does is make people want to watch the original instead?

I had completely fucking forgot about Gumby, but thanks to this, now I'm gonna go hunt out the old shows.
It'd be optimistic to say that was the real goal all along - to get people to give a shit about the first two series, and the 90s movie with Lowbelly, the claymation Null-dog.

I'd be curious to see how they'd fuck up that dog. Poor fucker already looks like he has a touch of the Down.

lowbelly.jpg
 
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Q*Bert makes sense for a cartoon. As one note as those characters are, you could at least create SOMETHING from that. You know who the good guy and bad guys are, and you know they look alien enough to where they can set everythinmg in outer space (which in fact they do in more recent games).
I've had the thought for years now that if hollywood's only gonna ever make reboots from now on, they should take old IPs that nobody remembers (or nobody liked) and try to make them successful. It's basically the opposite of what they do now where they take successful old IP and shit all over it, so at the very least it'd be a nice change of pace. I bet the rights to half of those old forgotten cartoons are dirt cheap if not outright abandoned. Cartoons that come to mind are Galaxy High, Moon Dreamers, The Visionairies, Pixel Pinkie, A Kind of Magic, Princess Gwenevere and the Jewel Riders....there are undoubtedly a zillion more that I just don't know of or can't think of off the top of my head, but any one of those could make a good show if someone cared enough to try again.
 
A scene from WB's soon to be theatrical release The Day The Earth Blew Up.

This kinda reminds me too much of Ren & Stimpy, specifically the APC "Altruist" one.

Daffy and Porky sound like the same voice actor is doing both, it's hard to tell the difference at times.

Like the ass crack joke though, didn't think they'd actualy go there.
 
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