Windows Recall AI snapshots stored in an unencrypted SQL file in appdata. Apparently. Already there is scripts to install it on unsupported devices.

[Betonhaus]

But that's the problem, there are approximately 436,123 different flavours of "Linux", all with their own baked-in flaws and highlights. I kid a little bit on the number, but JEEZUS FUCKING CHRIST

Ultimately you can ignore 99.9% of distros and never think of them. I think even on this site only a dozen distros get mentioned regularly, with most of those being experimental or for expert users only. I'd say many of those distros on that chart barely have a dozen active users and only have one developer.

Linux Mint has proven itself to be the perfect daily driver for most people, who can then eventually dip their toes into arch Linux or whatever they feel like.

 

[sweater_supremacy]

What seriously? I don't know anybody, not even Boomers, that are nostalgic for Clippy. Much less Bob.

i think it was in the modern web woes thread or something, i remember even seeing people saying it on this site. i guess i can understand, unlike copilot clippy porbably wasnt selling you out to the feds.

 

[demicolon]

I will also make a hot take. Linux is just as bad or worse than Microsoft at giving consumers what they want. A properly run organization doesn't dictate to the user what they should want. The user dictates what they want.

Disagree. Microsoft forced one way of doing things and the advantage of that is, for example, if you wrote something 20 years ago in winapi for windows 98 then it's going to work in windows 10, at worst you have to enable compatibility mode for it.

Linux breaks backwards compatibility every few years. Oh, and it's not virus-proof but since Linux is such a niche of a niche nobody bothers to write viruses for it.

 

[Anti Lolicon Bomb]

Linux breaks backwards compatibility every few years. Oh, and it's not virus-proof but since Linux is such a niche of a niche nobody bothers to write viruses for it.

That is not the only reason, unretarded permissions goes a long way and its culture of repos instead of downloading random shit off the internet goes even further. Throw a firewall on and dont be an absolute donkey cock and you will be fine on Linux as a home user, These days though I think Microsofts own updates are more likely to fuck your system than catching a Viroos on Windows.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Neither Windows nor Mac "just works". You just happen to be used to their particular brand of bullshit, and don't want to go to the trouble of adapting to the Linux brand of bullshit. Change is hard and scary and it's easier to just take the corporate dick.

(Gaming on Linux does suck though.)

 

[Falcon Sebben]

I don't have a problem with "Linux" per-se, I've said before that every OS and program has its use case. Hell, I use a version of it for small RaspberryPI projects. But that's the problem, there are approximately 436,123 different flavours of "Linux", all with their own baked-in flaws and highlights. I kid a little bit on the number, but JEEZUS FUCKING CHRIST...

This is what happens when it's open source. Everybody gets together and makes what they think is a good OS. Which reminds me of an old computer joke. "If OSes were airlines". I remember this from the 90's so pre-Linux but as it's taken from Unix the Unix bit still applies.

Spoiler: Nerd humor

Windows: The terminal is neat and clean, the attendants courteous, the pilots capable. The fleet of Lear jets the carrier operates is immense. Your jet takes off without a hitch, pushes above the clouds and, at 20,000 feet, explodes without warning.

Mac: The cashiers, flight attendants, and pilots all look the same, talk the same, and act the same. When you ask them questions about the flight, they reply that you don't want to know, don't need to know, and would you please return to your seat and watch the movie.

Unix: Passengers bring a piece of the airplane and a box of tools with them to the airport. They gather on the tarmac, arguing about what kind of plane they want to build. The passengers split into groups and build several different aircraft but give them all the same name. Only some passengers reach their destinations, but all of them believe they arrived.

And for those that no longer exist:

Windows for Workgroups: Passengers carry their seats out onto the tarmac and place them in the outline of a plane. They sit down, flap their arms, and make jet swooshing sounds as if they are flying.

OS/2: The terminal is almost empty - only a few prospective passengers mill about. The announcer says that a flight has just departed, although no planes appear to be on the runway. Airline personnel apologize profusely to customers in hushed voices, pointing from time to time to the sleek, powerful jets outside. They tell each passenger how great the flight will be on these new jets and how much safer it will be than Windows Airlines, but they will have to wait a little longer for the technicians to finish the flight systems. Maybe until mid-1995. Maybe longer.

Oh, and it's not virus-proof but since Linux is such a niche of a niche nobody bothers to write viruses for it.

It's the same when it comes to Macs. There are Mac only viruses out there but they're rare because maybe only 10% of the people own a Mac. And if you're putting a virus out there with the intention to infect as many units as possible you go after the system which most people are using which is Windoze.

It only makes sense. But there is no OS which has literally zero viruses. Even Android has them.

 

[DavidS877]

Biggest mistake is to think distros are fundamentally different. They're all the same software, just with (usually) a different package manager and a different philosophy behind them how the basic tools are setup and how the configuration (you can change) of the software that is bundled out of the box is.

It's always funny when I talk to people and they mention they only use Ubuntu because that's what they know. And I'm sitting there going "THEY'RE ALL THE SAME"

Compared to the "good old days" when we shifted from SunOS to Solaris to HPUX to AIX to Ultrix every Linux distribution in common use is nearly identical.

"apt: command not found" oops, this is RedHat

"rm: remove regular file 'x'?" Oh, right, I hate RedHat

"OOM Killer: snapd tried to allocate 3.2 TB of ram" Oh, right, I hate Ubuntu

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[The Great Milenko]

I bet all Linux fags, who love to tinker and create various flavors, all drive vehicles that are automatic. Fuckin' nerds.

All I want or need is just a stable version of Linux. I just don't care about tinkering inside the OS.

 

[Betonhaus]

I bet all Linux fags, who love to tinker and create various flavors, all drive vehicles that are automatic. Fuckin' nerds.

All I want or need is just a stable version of Linux. I just don't care about tinkering inside the OS.

Mint. Anyone who says otherwise are new to Linux themselves or are autistic.

 

[Anti Lolicon Bomb]

All I want or need is just a stable version of Linux. I just don't care about tinkering inside the OS.

Mint. If you're not a retard: LMDE - thats Linux Mint Debian Edition.
Mint is as "just werks" as any OS on the planet, you install, it comes with a bunch of basic apps installed, you add the ones you need and then you are done.
Ubuntu being the "just werks" distro is a bad joke, it never just werks, I wouldn't be keen on using any OS built on Ubuntu like standard Mint but if you need inflatable armbands for your soup then use that version.

 

[Betonhaus]

Mint. If you're not a retard: LMDE - thats Linux Mint Debian Edition.
Mint is as "just werks" as any OS on the planet, you install, it comes with a bunch of basic apps installed, you add the ones you need and then you are done.
Ubuntu being the "just werks" distro is a bad joke, it never just werks, I wouldn't be keen on using any OS built on Ubuntu like standard Mint but if you need inflatable armbands for your soup then use that version.

One of the biggest flaws of Ubuntu is snaps, which Linux Mint disables. I'm still trying to figure out what the noteable differences are between Mint and LMDE, and it seems to be that Mint will have slightly newer system packages which means better support for newer hardware and software.

 

[Cubanodun]

I find hilarious the boost linux had after this, specially Chimera OS because the main problem people had with Linux was IT CANT RUN GAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIMMMSSSSSS and now thanks to Proton it can

Gaben just need to release Steam OS for desktop, there are shitload of alternatives for everything microsoft offer and now thanks to Adobe being literally Satan people is ditching them

 

[Betonhaus]

I find hilarious the boost linux had after this, specially Chimera OS because the main problem people had with Linux was IT CANT RUN GAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIMMMSSSSSS and now thanks to Proton it can

Gaben just need to release Steam OS for desktop, there are shitload of alternatives for everything microsoft offer and now thanks to Adobe being literally Satan people is ditching them

The main thing is that Steam OS is based on arch and is very tailored to the exact hardware used. Making it an os that supports any potential hardware device would add a significant level of difficulty and instability. If anything, Valve should go the Apple route and only ship it's OS on hardware it makes.

 

[Cubanodun]

The main thing is that Steam OS is based on arch and is very tailored to the exact hardware used. Making it an os that supports any potential hardware device would add a significant level of difficulty and instability. If anything, Valve should go the Apple route and only ship it's OS on hardware it makes.

The Steam deck is not super custom hardware, it still uses AMD APUs tech that work with the same drivers, there is a reason HoloISO that is like 99% steam deck os only worked with AMD products until Nvidia decided to stop being dicks about linux recently

 

[Old English Roast Beef]

I think Valve cares very little about people ditching Windows over stuff like Recall. The investment in Proton and Steam OS is purely as a hedge against Microsoft locking people in to buying games from the Microsoft Store because locking people in to buying games from only one place is Valve's job.

 

[K-Hole]

Anyway, never mind the DATA RAPE!!!

It could have been so much worse.

What we know about the xz Utils backdoor that almost infected the world​

Malicious updates made to a ubiquitous tool were a few weeks away from going mainstream.​

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/04/what-we-know-about-the-xz-utils-backdoor-that-almost-infected-the-world/

https://archive.vn/vhHWT

Spoiler: Can you say more about what this backdoor does?

In a nutshell, it allows someone with the right private key to hijack sshd, the executable file responsible for making SSH connections, and from there to execute malicious commands. The backdoor is implemented through a five-stage loader that uses a series of simple but clever techniques to hide itself. It also provides the means for new payloads to be delivered without major changes being required.

Linux. If you care about security.

And don't want to be DATA RAPED!!!

 

[Betonhaus]

Anyway, never mind the DATA RAPE!!!

It could have been so much worse.

What we know about the xz Utils backdoor that almost infected the world​

Malicious updates made to a ubiquitous tool were a few weeks away from going mainstream.​

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/04/what-we-know-about-the-xz-utils-backdoor-that-almost-infected-the-world/

https://archive.vn/vhHWT

Spoiler: Can you say more about what this backdoor does?

In a nutshell, it allows someone with the right private key to hijack sshd, the executable file responsible for making SSH connections, and from there to execute malicious commands. The backdoor is implemented through a five-stage loader that uses a series of simple but clever techniques to hide itself. It also provides the means for new payloads to be delivered without major changes being required.

Linux. If you care about security.

And don't want to be DATA RAPED!!!

how much butthurt must you have to go looking for old news like this?

Also, it never made it into regular Debian or Fedora based distros and it got patched out immediately after being discovered. Recall will ship on every compatible PC and stay there.

 

[whogoesthere]

how much butthurt must you have to go looking for old news like this?

I'm imaging it's the same as Linux users who swarm any windows topic with endless bleating. Its about all they can do on such a poorly designed system with little functionality.

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm imaging it's the same as Linux users who swarm any windows topic with endless bleating. Its about all they can do on such a poorly designed system with little functionality.

Oh god get some hemmeroid cream

 

[Gas Grass Or Ass]

Ultimately you can ignore 99.9% of distros and never think of them. I think even on this site only a dozen distros get mentioned regularly, with most of those being experimental or for expert users only. I'd say many of those distros on that chart barely have a dozen active users and only have one developer.

Linux Mint has proven itself to be the perfect daily driver for most people, who can then eventually dip their toes into arch Linux or whatever they feel like.

Most distros are just software shipped differently than the OG distro. Write a bash script that installs i3wm and whatever software you want over archlinux and then just package it into the arch ISO, and BAM. You made your own distro. The name "distribution" is self-explanatory. Using your number, 99% of distros are just a "thanks for coming to my ted talk" re-packaging of a daddy distro.

Ubuntu is just Debian with Canonical's turds on it (snap). Linux Mint is Ubuntu without snap and with an older kernel (doing sudo apt update on it, at least back in 2017 when I was using it, proves that it pulls packages directly from the Ubuntu repos).

Garuda, EndeavourOS, are both straight-up Arch with extra scripts. There's also another 10 major variations on those. You can literally just install base Arch and install the packages they install plus d/l their scripts and get the exact same thing. Only Manjaro is a little different from Arch because it uses a *slightly* out-of-date home-grown repository with a different philosophy.

On that note, I made a distro myself based on Arch that another 40 ppl use. Wanna know how long it took? 1 hour, and that's only because I suck ass at writing bash scripts. A good skiddie would have done it in 12 minutes.

My advice to people starting out with Linux to avoid choice fatigue is just install something super popular like Ubuntu or Kubuntu (latter ships with Plasma, which looks a little more familiar to Windows users) and play around with it in a VM until you're comfortable. Then if you want to just go pure bare metal, that's the point where you learn QEMU and play around with other distros in VMs until you find something that intrigues you more.

Don't listen to your pozzed Internet buddies who recommend some obscure distro only 10 ppl actually have a niche use for. You don't really need it. Learn to package your own distro yourself so you're happy with your experience. Or don't, and keep using what makes you happy. That's what makes this environment great, not the 203948230982098 choices you have.