Youtube General thread (formerly Youtube Censorship discussion thread)

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"Your web camera is not turned on you cannot continue unless we know you're watching the ad,"

Here's a patent by sony for smart TVs, that they could probably do with phones easily too.
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They want you to get up and chant the product name to continue your show. BUILT into the TVs you're buying.
There are tons of fresh hells coming your way.
Somebody else had posted a patent a few pages back, and some phrasing used within leads me to believe that some advertisers will 100% try and force end users to interact directly with the material to continue. Among the ones I'm suddenly getting is this deodorant one (they're all for the same brand for some reason; unless I go into private browsing at which point I actually get ads for local things) in where some fat bitch prompts the viewer to answer a question, and you know they'll be trying to force users to actually play along and pay special attention to what specifically is going on. Hell, within the decade I could see them going the extra mile and using AI to keep the actor appearing to remain in motion waiting for your reply instead of pausing outright.

I'll probably be getting back into reading since Cable 2.0 is more or less here. Not a snowball's chance in hell this doesn't become the standard before 2030.
 
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There is no proof that YouTube is profitable. Every change that they make signals that the service costs more to run than it makes on its own. If Google didn't have an advertising monopoly on the platform, plus the ability to harvest and sell user data, then the site would have ceased to exist a decade ago. They literally hide YouTube's finances during every Alphabet/Google financial report.

They are making enough money Alphabet people aren't coming to terminate management, like other underperforming divisions per UX friend. They also like to do shit just so they can tell the investors they are doing shit to boost revenue, so that might come into play as well.
 
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Guntubers are the perfect audience for Rumble and if they aren't bothering to take 10 minutes to upload shit twice, they should be discarded. Like, you mean to tell me you can't take 10 minutes to reupload your video to Rumble despite Neal Mohan sticking his tiny stinky indian currynigger cock down your throat, but you expect me to believe you're going to shoot at the ATF in a SHTF situation? Nah you're not nigger, you're fucking cattle. Stay in your pen and suck currynigger dick cattle retard.
The thing is, guntubers have been posting to alt platforms at least since 2017 when Youtube started putting the tip in with censorship specifically against firearms.

The website Full30 was started by Military Arms Channel and Armslist and Gunstreamer was made by guncritic.com both for specifically hosting gun videos. Gunstreamer still actually has many content creators uploading there as well, and guess what? Nobody is watching them. Each video I can see on the front page gets less than 100 views. Many guntubers like MAC, Forgotten Weapons, Hickok45, honest outlaw, InrangeTV, Mrgunsngear, nutnfancy, etc, etc, etc do upload to many other sites every single time AND NOBODY WATCHES THEIR SHIT EXCEPT FOR ON YOUTUBE. This isn't witbout trying, mind you, I remember when they'd shill their alt platforms before each video before just stopping at some point (some still even have links in the description).

Forgotten Weapons -along with other tubers he's tried to convince- has tried multiple times to exclusively upload certain videos to only to certain websites like floatplane or subscribestar/patreon (now the app history of weapons & war which is literally a vimeo player lol) both paid and free and he keeps failing at getting people to care as well.

The bottom line is, most people watching gun content are normies, kids, or Europeans, who just want to watch guy describe a gun, maybe shoot it, and give their (bought and paid for) opinion on said gun and whether it's good gun for them. They aren't going to other platforms for le BASED guntubers.

In reality, neither Youtube nor The Powers That Be give a shit about most guntubers. They just care about keeping people from knowing how to make guns from scratch, scary guns like machine guns, suppressors, or explosives. This is why channels like royalnonesuch, which showed a guy making guns out of trash, are banned.

Do you realize how much money the gun industry is worth and stands to give to youtube in adrev? As long as -ahem- well connected multichannel networks like Leviathan Group (look into it, most guntubers are part of it) are an intermediary, guntube is going nowhere. The gun industry is worth too much. Guntube will just get gayer.
 
So far the U-Block Origin guys are doing pretty good with blocking the new server-injected ads. It's not perfect, but their method is skipping ads in like half a second after they start in everything but "Watch Later" playlists for those affected by the "study". Furthermore, the fucking geniuses are skipping ads in such a way that a "false ad start" is logged so that the attempted server side ad injection costs YouTube more money.
 
I did a quick search in the thread and nobody seems to have mentioned tubearchivist yet. Its UI is kinda shitty but I find it easier to use with hundreds of videos from random channels than downloading them all over the place or making folders everywhere. It also archives comments for videos (not by default though). It is also supposed to integrate with sponsorblock and return youtube dislike but I haven't used that yet.
 
Care to tell me the name of that extension? Is it able to block certain phrases used in video titles, too?
I don't know if it's the same extension he's talking about, but I used to use this:
It lets you hide videos and channels. The description says you can hide by keywords, but I never used that feature. Fuck around and find out.

the middle of a Jim Sterling video about Jim getting his asshole filled with sloppy dicks while screaming that Capitalism has failed us.
Ads being forcibly inserted into Jim's anti-capitalist videos might be the only good thing to come out of this.

all your new tool would need to is download a stream thrice, hash all the chunks, see what differs, and exclude anything that does.
This could work. 🤔 A hash list for each video's chunks could also be stored and distributed SponserBlock style.

I did a quick search in the thread and nobody seems to have mentioned tubearchivist yet.
I'll add it to my guide.

And now I can't watch videos anymore due to having an ad-blocker.
Are you on desktop? If so try FreeTube. It won't block the injected ads but it will block everything else.
 
Yup. I'm currently just using an alt. YT account where, for some reason, I can still play videos without the injected ads. I think it will be some time until the alt. account gets compromised by YT too.
They're rolling the change out slowly, on only some accounts, probably to gauge public reaction.
 
How to use yt-dlp

yt-dlp is a fork/continuation of the now defunct youtube-dl which does exactly what it says. It's extremely powerful and has basically every feature you could ever want.

You can download single videos easily. Audio only. Entire playlists. Entire channels. Videos from a certain time period. Automatically download new uploads. Download your private playlists. There's even experimental livestream downloading abilities.

I wish I knew about it sooner but it gets no publicity. youtub-dl has been around since like 2008 I think? But despite being vaguely interested in lost media/youtube archiving I never heard of it until I got into linux. I guess because its a command line tool which is too scary compared to those shitty ad-riddled free youtube downloader sites. In the long term, those sites are much scarier and harder to use. Due to the amount of ads on them, sketchiness, and severe limitations on what you can download. yt-dlp offers it all, unlimited, industrial-scale and for free. I've even had success downloading video from random obscure corn sites.

I downloaded thousands of videos from my clusterfuck of disorganized watch later/saved videos playlsits and stored them on inexpensive hard drives. Even hundreds of videos can fit on a $70 2tb hard drive.

Download

If you're a windows pleb, this is the hard part.

Linux: Install the yt-dlp package. It should be available in every major repository.

Windows: I stopped using windows a long time ago for obvious reasons, but I had some success archiving with the old youtube-dl. You have to download an exe from github and activate it from the command line. Installing and using software from github is confusing, unreliable, non-intuitive and annoying. I will do my best to explain it simply.
  1. Go to the github page
  2. Go to the releases section (on the sidebar)
  3. Click "yt-dlp.exe".
    • You may want the "x86" one or the "yt-dlp_win.zip" which has a yt-dlp.exe inside.
  4. Open a terminal and navigate to the same directory as yt-dlp.exe, probably "Downloads"
    • you should be able to do this by right clicking and clicking "open terminal window here"
    • otherwise open "cmd" from the start menu and type cd Downloads to move to downloads
    • If you try double clicking the exe it will just tell you not to do that and to call it from the command line.
When I used youtube-dl on windows, you had to do some crazy shit editing the program settings in appdata to change the output location. Hopefully you won't have to do that (I didn't check)

I didn't test it but you should be able to install it on mac using brew or something and use it the same as on linux.

There are graphical versions available, but by the time you've wrestled them into working, combined with the limitation of features, you might as well have just learned the regular version.

You need ffmpeg installed for conversions and stuff.

Usage

Now you can use yt-dlp. Type yt-dlp to see if its installed and working.

To use yt-dlp, use the yt-dlp command followed by the url of video. Or whatever else you want to download, along with any options.

Simplest command example:
yt-dlp 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUeXKsEgmuE'

Single or double quotes being required seems to change based on what specific shell you're using and your circumstances, basically at random. You may have to add or remove them to get the commands to work. Generally you will want them around the URL and any file paths and stuff like that.

To download a full playlist, paste the url of a video thats in a playlist. It has &list=[bunch of letters] at the end

yt-dlp 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTtQPEIaAFs&list=PLvZaWba5ERlZAGYe7ox9KRkKtk4dkyvUh'

You can also put in the playlist page, which is different, the url says youtube/playslist, and might help if you're having trouble downloading.

yt-dlp 'https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvZaWba5ERlZAGYe7ox9KRkKtk4dkyvUh'

Paste in a channel URL to download an entire channel.

yt-dlp 'https://www.youtube.com/@mistermetokurarchives'

You can download multiple videos at a time, paste in as many urls as you want after yt-dlp and it will download them all.

Options/special downloading procedures

These are some of the most common options you will probably want to use. You can see them all with yt-dlp --help

You can put the option switches before or after the URLs (useful for when you forget to do them) and yt-dlp <URL> -i -4 -v is the same as yt-dlp -i <URL> -4v

Example of yt-dlp command using options
yt-dlp -v -w --sponsorblock-mark default --sponsorblock-remove selfpromo,sponsors,interaction 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTtQPEIaAFs'


verbose: -v
print more info to console

simulate: -s
Don't actually download anything, Do a dry run to see if everythings working

--restrict-filenames
Write files without special characters and spaces

--windows-filenames
Only name files in a windows compatible way

--datebefore
Download videos only before this date. YYYYMMDD. In the docs there are other options for downloading videos relative to the current date.

Download all videos before June 21st 2020
yt-dlp --datebefore 20200621 'https://www.youtube.com/@mistermetokurarchives'

--dateafter, --date
Same as --datebefore, but only videos after the date, or uploaded on the date.

--download-archive <file>
A file that keeps a list of every video you've downloaded so you don't download videos multiple times, if you're downloading them into different folders.

yt-dlp 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTtQPEIaAFs&list=PLvZaWba5ERlZAGYe7ox9KRkKtk4dkyvUh' --download-archive thearchive.txt

--sponsorblock-remove default
This is a simple option to remove sections marked by sponsorblock

--sponsorblock-mark sponsor,intro,outro,selfpromo,preview,filler,interaction,music_offtopic,poi_highlight,chapter
Example of a command that will create chapters in the video, and also lists all sections available to be marked or removed by sponsorblock. They are listed separated by commas without spaces. This is the same as all which is the default.

--cookies-from-browser brave
Use cookies from your browser to log into youtube to download private videos or playlists. Mullvad and tor aren't supported. Firefox and chromium are supported, If you're using a different browser than that, kill yourself. But its also probably supported.

quickly view all the options
yt-dlp --help

output
This is one of the most important parts and one of the most tricky. It's how you change the download location, the file extension, and the file name of the video. yt-dlp uses some weird format strings to name the output of the video.

Download video to a file called sneeder.mp4
yt-dlp -o sneeder.mp4 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUeXKsEgmuE'

Technically you aren't supposed to hardcode the file extension like that. This is how you download the video to a file called sneeder with the appropriate file extension for the chosen format.

yt-dlp -o 'sneeder.%(ext)s' 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUeXKsEgmuE'

Some options
  • %(title)s
  • %(ext)s
  • %(id)s
  • %(channel)s
  • %(playlist_title)s
There are a metric fuckload of these available in the docs

A standard download output

yt-dlp -o '%(title)s.%(ext)s' 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUeXKsEgmuE'

Download to a folder named after the playlist title

yt-dlp -o '%(playlist_title)s/%(title)s.%(ext)s' 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTtQPEIaAFs&list=PLvZaWba5ERlZAGYe7ox9KRkKtk4dkyvUh'

Format

By default yt-dlp will download the best quality audio and video.

If for some reason you want to download a different format/quality, use -F to list all available download formats. Then -f with the ID number to download that format.

Audio only download

extract audio: -x
yt-dlp -x 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM62wjLrgmA'

This will just download a video file with no video and only audio. You will probably want to combine this with --audio-format

--audio-format mp3
Meant to be used with -x, this will convert the output file to mp3. Other supported formats are listed in the docs, and you can have rules to download to different audio formats if you want.

--audio-quality 0
Download with the best possible audio quality. Takes a value between 0 (best) and 10 (worst) and is 5 by default.

Basically the "download audio only" command you will want to use
yt-dlp -x --audio-format mp3 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM62wjLrgmA'

Other stuff

yt-dlp manual
yt-dlp readme

Both of these have more detailed, technical, comprehensive information.

Ideally you would have a home server/NAS running linux and several hard drives and backups. Running jellyfin or some other home video service. I haven't even done any of this because I'm too lazy. I just have a couple hard drives laying around with terabytes of youtube videos.

You can download videos on mobile with newpipe, libretube or youtube revanced.

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server_Original has more information on home servers and hardware for data storage
  • Try adding or removing https://www. if downloads aren't working
  • Youtube video IDs are 11 characters after watch?v=. anything after that like the ? is technically unecessary. Unless you're downloading a playlist, the ID of which is denoted by &list=
  • You can download with just the ID e.g. yt-dlp sH5ohcGnRm0
  • Whether you need single or double quotes around URLs and filepaths for it to work seems to depend on your specific shell and circumstances
  • Hard drives, especially cheap, non-enterprise ones, die quickly. As in a few years. You should have multiple backups and replace old drives.
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Linux: Install the yt-dlp package. It should be available in every major repository.
Don't do this on ubuntu (probably applies to all stable distros), it has some old ass version on apt, which probably doesn't work anymore. You should use pipx or install it just using pip (if you don't care about python). You will need to install the ffmpeg package for this method.
 
this is janky, but easy: already have uBlock Origin extension.
then right-click on yt link and choose guest tab = no ads.
or, if that doesn't work for some reason, pause bc fuck seeing any more of the ad, and type "nsfw" directly in front of the "y" in the url.
again, if you already have the uBlock Origin extension, whatever garbage awaits you after doing the above simply won't be there, plus it enables downloading.
and -- since the best way to get an answer on the Internet is to be wrong, feel free to tell me why what I'm doing is stupid.
Please and Thank You.
 
I have yet to see any of these new ads, but YouTube simply doesn't work today. Videos don't load, if they do, only for a few minutes before they stop. I feel like I'm back in the 56k modem era.
 
Gentlemen.

It's 2024 and we are experiencing late stage YouTube. The economical situation of the United States and the world at large is forcing the largest companies to make sudden and drastic decisions to try and keep their income higher than their operating expenses, whereas in the past it seemed even the largest companies were happy to operate at a loss or with no profit for years. YouTube in particular had been terminally unprofitable for years, and it seems that pajeet CEOs are calling it: make some fucking money.

YouTube is experimenting with a Final Solution to the Adblocker problem, similar to Twitch, where they inject ads directly into the bitstreams that make up a video, so that an ad is technologically indistinguishable from the content you've requested.

I believe, therefore, that I should remind people that the only thing they truly have is whatever they personally own. In this context, I am referring to downloading copies of videos. I wrote a guide to this here:

For many of you, YouTube will be a place where you've saved videos for over a decade. It's time to save what you want off the platform before they start doing more dumb shit. Whatever you want to keep forever on YouTube should be downloaded as soon as possible.

Are there any lolcow channels I should be archiving?
Jersh put TubeArchivist in there https://github.com/tubearchivist/tubearchivist

It's a great project, not affiliated with it in any way just been using it for archiving stuff. Super easy to use, browser extension to archive a video

It IS self hosted though, but I'm happy to make some no nonesense guide for non tech oriented people or some safe auto setup scripts

You could use it for auto archiving of channels for kiwi though
 
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