The future of Gen Z

[Party Hat Wurmple]

This video is 7 years old, so you can expect it got far worse by now. I can only imagine how horrifyingly dumbed down the education standards got as a result of lockdown and remote classes, my country alone axed the homeworks (Be it a good or bad thing is up for debate). Physical activity? 15 year olds are more likely to inject a troonshine sent to them by their 'cord dommy mommies in their veins than to run all over the backyard playing soccer. Ok, in slightly less pozzed countries teens pretending they are animu catgirls are less widespread, not that sitting on web 2.0 ersatz socializing is not any damaging.

All of the Gen Zers I've met are weird. They're definitely less reckless than the earlier generations and arguably more responsible. However, that responsibility comes from the fact they don't do anything. Their idea of a fun Friday night is playing Helldivers 2 with their friends online for an hour. They don't even fucking shit talk. Their rooms are unironically legit goonercaves. It's like they heard "Stay in your pod" and took it as fucking advice. A lot of them refuse to drive. They just don't see it as a necessity. They just aren't very social people.

Dear Gen Z, when I said "Stay In Your Pod and Eat The Bugs" it was a warning. You weren't supposed to actually do it you fucking tards.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

If they're Americans, I think they may be one of the first generations to form a proper American diaspora abroad as they become increasingly disillusioned with the notion of the United States being the land of opportunity. This has already happened somewhat with many millennials, but I think we might see a very significant uptick in emigration from the US in the coming years. It will be interesting to witness because the US government hasn't had to face the issue of large-scale out migration of its own citizens, and you know how much they hate people leaving the plantation.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

This video is 7 years old, so you can expect it got far worse by now. I can only imagine how horrifyingly dumbed down the education standards got as a result of lockdown and remote classes, my country alone axed the homeworks (Be it a good or bad thing is up for debate). Physical activity? 15 year olds are more likely to inject a troonshine sent to them by their 'cord dommy mommies in their veins than to run all over the backyard playing soccer. Ok, in slightly less pozzed countries teens pretending they are animu catgirls are less widespread, not that sitting on web 2.0 ersatz socializing is not any damaging.

I found personally that the gap between the worst and best has only become more extreme. The 10th percentile really is brilliant while anyone below seems hopeless in comparison. It's no wonder that so many lose hope when they are basically losers being compared with the best of the best. Imagine most expensive education including private tutors, fancy sports clubs, incredible early career opportunities and freedom from predatory student loans. Some still drop the ball though despite having access to all that.

Edit: Anime and transgenderism are the great equalizer though. It really affects children from all social strata.

 

[Seethan Ralph]

Dear Gen Z, when I said "Stay In Your Pod and Eat The Bugs" it was a warning. You weren't supposed to actually do it you fucking tards.

When you have no prospects, it might be understandable in a way. Jobs are fake, money is fake, economy is fake, politics is fake, zoomer -> zommer relationships are fake (and gay), what else should they do? They aren't exactly pissed off enough for zoomoid revolution (thank god)

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

If they're Americans, I think they may be one of the first generations to form a proper American diaspora abroad as they become increasingly disillusioned with the notion of the United States being the land of opportunity. This has already happened somewhat with many millennials, but I think we might see a very significant uptick in emigration from the US in the coming years. It will be interesting to witness because the US government hasn't had to face the issue of large-scale out migration of its own citizens, and you know how much they hate people leaving the plantation.

Yeah, it's getting more obvious that the American dream is just that: a dream. People leaving the US for Europe to find a better life is already happening. As far as I know US citizens living abroad still need to pay money to the IRS, and that just goes to show that the US government loves to act like the mob in more ways than one. You just want to avoid politics and go innawoods? Just look what happened to the Weaver family. You're an anti-establishment POTUS candidate like Trump? Let's weaponize the judicial system. You want to leave the country because you realize everything about it is built on a lie? We'll just send the IRS after you. And I doubt most Americans have a fuzzy feeling towards expats.

 

[Seethan Ralph]

It will be interesting to witness because the US government hasn't had to face the issue of large-scale out migration of its own citizens, and you know how much they hate people leaving the plantation.

And where will they go? Jewnited kikedom? Canuckistan? Central Europe, which is facing the same problems America does, just not to that level yet? Far East?

The entire civilized world is experiencing malaise, maybe some places are more affected, others not as much. And the rest of the world, if developing, is yet to reach the level satisfactory to your typical American.

 

[Huh what?]

A lot of them refuse to drive. They just don't see it as a necessity.

I didn't start driving until my 20's. Wanted to do it at 15, but my parents thought it was too dangerous and refused to sign off on my learners' permit. Use public transportation, they said. It will be fine, they said.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

Yeah, it's getting more obvious that the American dream is just that: a dream. People leaving the US for Europe to find a better life is already happening. As far as I know US citizens living abroad still need to pay money to the IRS, and that just goes to show that the US government loves to act like the mob in more ways than one. You just want to avoid politics and go innawoods? Just look what happened to the Weaver family. You're an anti-establishment POTUS candidate like Trump? Let's weaponize the judicial system. You want to leave the country because you realize everything about it is built on a lie? We'll just send the IRS after you. And I doubt most Americans have a fuzzy feeling towards expats.

It's true that American citizens have to file for taxes while living abroad, but there's a host of qualifications that can -- if planned right -- reduce the amount actually paid to near zero, or at the very least significantly reduce the amount paid.

And where will they go? Jewnited kikedom? Canuckistan? Central Europe, which is facing the same problems America does, just not to that level yet? Far East?

The entire civilized world is experiencing malaise, maybe some places are more affected, others not as much. And the rest of the world, if developing, is yet to reach the level satisfactory to your typical American.

Eastern, Southeastern and Central Europe (regarding the latter this is usually Hungary, the Czech Republic or Poland), Southeast Asia (especially Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam), parts of sub-Saharan Africa (Botswana, Namibia, Rwanda, Ivory Coast, Kenya, Ghana etc), Central America (El Salvador, which has become attractive thanks to Bukele's policies, Costa Rica, Belize and Panama), South America (Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile and - possible in the near future - Argentina), and the Caribbean are already attracting Americans. A lot of Americans discover that in many cases the US's perceived standard of living -- or at least the demands to keep up appearances in that context -- was actually driving them crazy (well, that and the garbage chemical-soaked food) and end up preferring the more simple, overall healthier life of a lot of places. Many Americans may have to rediscover the pioneer spirit of their ancestors and be willing to endure possible hardship in a high risk, potentially high-reward setting.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

A lot of them refuse to drive. They just don't see it as a necessity.

To be fair, this makes sense in most metropolitan areas of Western Europe and East Asia. Amsterdam, Copenhagen, London, and Paris for example are quite nasty and expensive to drive in. The cost of parking alone is tremendous and there are regulations regarding which cars can even enter the city's low-emission zones. Knowing how to drive is pointless if you cannot afford a car which may drive into a city and buy a parking spot there. At that point, it's better to buy a scooter or electric bike depending on your location. These conditions are also spreading to smaller, more provincial cities which defeats the purpose of cars for young people.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I didn't start driving until my 20's. Wanted to do it at 15, but my parents thought it was too dangerous and refused to sign off on my learners' permit. Use public transportation, they said. It will be fine, they said.

I hear this LARP from Zoomers all the time. Driving in America is essential. We don't have a choice. Yes it's scary, but it's something you HAVE to do. You don't have a choice in this matter.

To be fair, this makes sense in most metropolitan areas of Western Europe and East Asia. Amsterdam, Copenhagen, London, and Paris for example are quite nasty and expensive to drive in. The cost of parking alone is tremendous and there are regulations regarding which cars can even enter the city's low-emission zones. Knowing how to drive is pointless if you cannot afford a car which may drive into a city and buy a parking spot there. At that point, it's better to buy a scooter or electric bike depending on your location. These conditions are also spreading to smaller, more provincial cities which defeats the purpose of cars for young people.

......As a burger I want you to know and fully understand how insane the concept of "low emission zones" are to me. I think if they tried to establish those here, there would be a legitimate consideration of doing a BOOGALOO and unironically hanging every single politician who tried to implement them. The American people are fat, lazy, and stupid but I think low emission zones and not being able to drive their cars in certain places being implemented would actually get Meal Team 6 off their couches. That's one of the most disgusting and abhorrent things I've ever heard of.

Secondly, you can't take public transportation here reliably. They just don't have the routes and it's not reliable. America is huge. Looking at America on a map doesn't do it justice. America is just too fucking big for public transportation. It's a miracle we have what we have. It's just too huge.

Third, we also have niggers. I know you don't think that's a problem, but you need to understand these people do nothing but cause problems. It's not uncommon to for a bus ride to end in violence because niggers are just that violent. They're a huge logistical hurdle.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Alright, coming back to this thread as I find it interesting..

Overall, this is the greatest hope to Gen Z. They have time and can count on massive societal and financial disruptions occurring. When such a disruption arises, opportunity quickly follows and some parts of the generation may benefit from it massively. The elderly lack time to recover from disruptions which prevents them from exploiting unexpected opportunities in full. Similarly, they are chained by the weight of their own assets. Also, do not underestimate the strength of societal malice. I cannot keep count of the number of books and articles recently released that negatively discuss the baby boomers and their effect on the sustainability of the economy. The more acceptable and widespread it becomes to detest the elderly, the easier it will become to implement policies which explicitly hurt them in favor of other groups or vague ideals.

I agree with this, yet at the same time, I wonder if many will even take advantage of the opportunity if presented. The older the unsuccessful parts of Gen Z gets, the less reason there will be to pursue gains. Yes, getting money is great, but it won't fix the fact that many are lonely and their companionship options are bottom-of-the-barrel. The time to get rich was their 20s, if it is held back to their 30s, the incentives dry up. Then it just becomes Gen Alpha's gain.

By contrast, I do think they would take the opportunity to make things worse out of bitterness as your second half states.

I find it shocking how a mere ~6 years spelled a night/day difference in tech literacy. There's this video floating around of a toddler being unable to use a Gameboy Color and swiping/tapping the screen in sheer bewilderment because she has no concept of buttons.

The first and second halves of Gen Z are going to be very different just given the tech advancement rate of the 2000s-early 2010s. I am not sure as to when the cut-off is, likely 05, but the ones who grew up DS, Wii and PS2 vs IPad and PS4 are usually more tech literate. It helps that the early 2010 was sort of a last moments for the old net as it was before Google, FaceBook and Twitter fully took over everything.

It is also a culture thing. Those who actually want to pursue tech or retro gaming are going to come out stronger. Sadly, too much of culture, including tech, is run by people who don't care and want things dumbed down further.

There is less emphasis placed on attempting to bring out that purpose of living and more emphasis placed on standardization, forcing students to be optimal in a certain way and evaluating their worth through data and comparisons.

This..
To add on, it becomes worse when many of the educators either don't care or are now politically charged. From there, you also get many lessons that are either unusable in a real-world situation, think any Liberal class that colleges have become fond of, or flat out get phased out the next year. I am in the middle of the Zoomer gen, so much of school was learning stuff you were told would be phased out of the program next year be it cursive or math like geometry getting replaced by some other math deemed more important.

The no child left behind program heavily impacted schools for the worse. The amount of tricks they would employ to learning made me get behind in subjects. Math went for a weird flipped classroom for a year, which ended in disaster as surprisingly people don't do learning at home, which means the teacher gets frustrated and refuses to teach if you need help. Vids were terrible too, literal tard math, overcomplicating simple equations by showing multiple "cheat" methods.

All of the Gen Zers I've met are weird. They're definitely less reckless than the earlier generations and arguably more responsible. However, that responsibility comes from the fact they don't do anything.

Yeah, this makes socializing hard tbh. I have known plenty of people who either refuse to go out, work 24/7, or just get caught up in some extreme activity (band mainly). Hanging out can feel like planning a vacation, cannot blame some for just giving up.

A big problem is that the lonely cannot escape. How much social capitol you have impacts people's willingness to hang out, so if you get dealt a bad hand, it becomes self fulfilling prophecy in many cases. This issue is exacerbated when socializing becomes based the net, where people look for perfection.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Yeah, this makes socializing hard tbh. I have known plenty of people who either refuse to go out, work 24/7, or just get caught up in some extreme activity (band mainly). Hanging out can feel like planning a vacation, cannot blame some for just giving up.

A big problem is that the lonely cannot escape. How much social capitol you have impacts people's willingness to hang out, so if you get dealt a bad hand, it becomes self fulfilling prophecy in many cases. This issue is exacerbated when socializing becomes based the net, where people look for perfection.

.....Nigga just find friends. It's not that difficult. You make it harder than it is. I can text my buddy now and we'll go fishing after work. This weekend alone I celebrated my friend's birthday, I went fishing, went to my other friends and hung out all night, and went to a BBQ the day after. It's not that hard to find friends and do things. Talk to people. It's not healthy to live this way. Humans are social creatures. If you grow up being a fucking NEET, you are going to be a near suicidal adult. You cannot live this way. It's not healthy.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

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Regarding your suggestion to escape, I cannot help but disagree for two reason. First, I believe that they shouldn't escape because this is exactly how conservatives lost influence in all cultural spaces within North America and Western Europe. The rot started in education and it was allowed to fester virtually unopposed. Traditionalists ceded ground by escaping into homeschooling. Same with the rural-urban divide. Cities were abandoned in favor of the traditional rural life. This is happening with churches as well. After the legalization of gay marriage, some churches embraced progressivism while their conservative parishioners escape into other congregations or isolate from the church. Conservatives have always refused to oppose the progressives on their own ground and instead ceded it. Escaping into neet-dom or to other countries will only reinforce this trend.

Second, I believe they cannot escape because the countries that you listed are already being dominated by progressives for the same reason as I described above. In EE, the conservatives have already ceded the national government, education and large cities to progressive politics. The same is occurring in much of Latin America. Going to these countries is equivalent to jumping from the pan into the fire.

I agree with this, yet at the same time, I wonder if many will even take advantage of the opportunity if presented.

Very few, but those who take advantage of those opportunities will benefit immensely. If I had to prophesize, I would say that the divide between the successful and unsuccessful will only grow larger. The losers in this equation will also fail to establish any physical social spaces and exile themselves into being lonely on the Internet. It's already a thing in East Asia where a generation of young men is disappearing with nobody to care because they don't matter.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

The european ones will be most likely have continuous clashes with the younger muslims+their descendants, probably resulting in the creation of muslim-dominated areas like how southern France became largely protestant after the third of their wars of religion, something that will be a more temporary solution as many younger muslims/2nd and 3rd generation muslim immigrants are quick to apostatize, which could lead either their secularization or a succesful counterpush by the more zealous sects.

The (north) americans are far easier to predict, they will continue decaying endlessly until an outside force, most likely the stronger latin american states, leaves their sphere of influence for good and aligns with the chinese, this being a wake up call for them and causing them to either fall into total hopelesness or creating a group of relatively small but very zealous factions with idealistic plans on how to turn things around. Not unlike with the HRE and Revolutionary France, during the early 1790s, really.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

If all of the teachers doomposting is to be believed, most of Gen Z will be illiterate monkeys, the ones who aren't will be brilliant geniuses, no middle ground.

 

[RX-78]

you’re also going to start having fertility issues + higher chances of producing autistic kids).

That is foid cope, only women lose their fertility in their 30's. Assuming a healthy diet and life style, sperms quality doesn't degrade until a man hits his 50's.

 

[Space Police]

I found personally that the gap between the worst and best has only become more extreme. The 10th percentile really is brilliant while anyone below seems hopeless in comparison. It's no wonder that so many lose hope when they are basically losers being compared with the best of the best. Imagine most expensive education including private tutors, fancy sports clubs, incredible early career opportunities and freedom from predatory student loans. Some still drop the ball though despite having access to all that.

It doesn't help that post-secondary is just soooo important nowadays. There are expensive community college programs for just becoming a line cook or flight attendant, and trade school admission is more competitive than an actual research university program. Many school districts require at least one AP class/exam to graduate, and many universities are valuing SATs less and AP exams more, which works out great for highly-motivated, hardworking students but less so for everyone else when you consider that the average score for most AP exams is a 2 or a 3. Now they have AP courses/exams for topics that aren't even first-year university, like AP Precalculus, which means that APs are getting dumbed down and standards are getting lowered, which is scary.

And where will they go? Jewnited kikedom? Canuckistan? Central Europe, which is facing the same problems America does, just not to that level yet? Far East?

The UK has a massive housing crisis and Trudeau is selling out to China and taxing the middle class to death, making it impossible to own a home and car to the point where the government will seize your home to get as much money out of you as possible, and it's okay because you're a colonizer so your money should be wasted on building on-reservation golf courses and water treatment plants that get neglected and fall into disrepair.

math like geometry getting replaced by some other math deemed more important.

Let me guess, statistics and business math? I have no idea why statistics is so emphasized, especially considering it's a specific application that doesn't really go anywhere else.

Math went for a weird flipped classroom for a year, which ended in disaster as surprisingly people don't do learning at home, which means the teacher gets frustrated and refuses to teach if you need help. Vids were terrible too, literal tard math, overcomplicating simple equations by showing multiple "cheat" methods.

I HATE flipped classrooms. It's so lazy. Teachers should want to teach and not pass the buck onto the students (especially since most flipped classrooms involve putting students into groups to work together). It's also not good preparation for university since it doesn't teach the students how to sit through and learn from a lecture. And I also hate the "cheat math" methods since they just teach students how to pass exams and they're antithetical to internalizing the concepts.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

standards are getting lowered

Standards are getting lower for the average student while the upper 10% tend to experience the same or increasing levels of stress. There is a reason why Adderall and Ritalin usage is so high among students. PhDs are also known as mental breakdown factories with usually very stupid reasons for putting so much stress on the candidates. No clue about the situation in high schools.

Let me guess, statistics and business math? I have no idea why statistics is so emphasized, especially considering it's a specific application that doesn't really go anywhere else.

Research and publishing. Some background in statistics is a prerequisite for any research track in many STEM and social science programs. Some universities in the EU also make it mandatory for all BSc programs. It is also more widely marketable after graduation due to the rapid growth of data science jobs. Haven't encountered business math although econometrics are a popular subject nowadays.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

You guys are much more enjoyable to converse with than much of my own generation. I've learned actual life lessons from this place that I only hear from maybe my own parents, so thank you guys.

 

[Audit]

Standards are getting lower for the average student while the upper 10% tend to experience the same or increasing levels of stress. There is a reason why Adderall and Ritalin usage is so high among students. PhDs are also known as mental breakdown factories with usually very stupid reasons for putting so much stress on the candidates. No clue about the situation in high schools.

Yep, pretty much any job that requires a PhD is super competitive. Getting into a PhD program is too easy however, and diversity candidates/hiring is ruining the sciences at breakneck speed. There's a good chance any white/asian male with a US PhD in the STEMs is some kind of genius while a woman is quite mediocre. Pajeets only hiring pajeets continues to be a growing problem.