The future of Gen Z

[Huh what?]

You guys are much more enjoyable to converse with than much of my own generation. I've learned actual life lessons from this place that I only hear from maybe my own parents, so thank you guys.

I have no idea if this is a serious post or not

 

[xXEddie.DurellXx]

It's interesting reading through this thread as a zoomie-zoom

 

[Linako 2.0]

All of the Gen Zers I've met are weird. They're definitely less reckless than the earlier generations and arguably more responsible. However, that responsibility comes from the fact they don't do anything. Their idea of a fun Friday night is playing Helldivers 2 with their friends online for an hour. They don't even fucking shit talk.

Literally Kevin French from Mission hill.

But at least Kevin was a nerd who did nerdy things, these young zoomers are just young dorks who try hard to emulate black people.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

The first and second halves of Gen Z are going to be very different just given the tech advancement rate of the 2000s-early 2010s. I am not sure as to when the cut-off is, likely 05, but the ones who grew up DS, Wii and PS2 vs IPad and PS4 are usually more tech literate. It helps that the early 2010 was sort of a last moments for the old net as it was before Google, FaceBook and Twitter fully took over everything.

As an older Millennial this is surprising initially, how something as small as input controllers, have changed intergenerationally. Integrating into society again through work has opened my eyes to just how old I am; not physically but mentally. I do not believe Gen Z or Gen Alpha are going to result in failure, I'm not pessimistic about it. They grew up in a time where they need to be with how quick technology is advancing and the accelerated availability of information; they will adapt much better and faster than I will as time continues. The closest thing I had when I was there age and still developing into an adult was a public library. Today, I'm surrounded by young folks who, when faced with any length of silence in conversation needs to pull out a device to distract them. They are also, exceptionally depressed where I think it is legitimately part of the personality. I think I've come to a conclusion.

I recently shared one of my hobbies with my co-workers, mycology, gourmet mushroom farming and breeding/hybridizing. The older co-workers responded equating my hobby to fixing a car while the younger co-workers were confused why I wouldn't just buy a video game.

Millennials killed Joy.

 

[Ser Prize]

Having to settle for Gen Alpha women is a terrifying concept. How am I supposed to date a girl who grew up watching Paw Patrol? It just feels wrong.

It's not any better for us millenial guys whose best choices are women who watched Jontron growing up. You'll get over it eventually.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

I have no idea if this is a serious post or not

There was a guy that said the same things, but about 4chan instead of KF. Here's his thread

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I recently shared one of my hobbies with my co-workers, mycology, gourmet mushroom farming and breeding/hybridizing. The older co-workers responded equating my hobby to fixing a car while the younger co-workers were confused why I wouldn't just buy a video game.

Dude just buy a video game if you want a hobby. What's the use in growing mushrooms?

 

[Inspector Rex]

Everything millenials accuse boomers of, will be practices by these millenials tenfold. With how modern age pyramid looks like, gen-z future looks grim, they will be working to death to provide a bunch of corporates and miriads of entitled old fags.

 

[Kiwisee]

That is foid cope, only women lose their fertility in their 30's. Assuming a healthy diet and life style, sperms quality doesn't degrade until a man hits his 50's.

What good is being “fertile” in your 50s when:

1. Most young women aren’t attracted to men old enough to be their grandpa (outside of wanting a guaranteed insurance payout within ten years or less— that or they have serious mental health issues stemming from getting raped by their dads)
2. When you’re bald, got a pot belly and have sperm that will only make more Chris Chans?

 

[AWizard]

Everything millennials accuse boomers of, will be practised by these millennials tenfold. With how modern age pyramid looks like, gen-z future looks grim, they will be working to death to provide a bunch of corporates and myriads of entitled old fags.

You figure this how? It's probably going to be the same boomers clinging on to life and Gen X'ers.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Generation Z and Alpha are most likely gonna feel more like a doozy with it's impacts than millennials are considering the grew up in class being lectured about LGBT subjects and they're gonna be much more helpless when in comes to creating infrastructure and combating socioeconomical issues (let alone being able to fend off rapists in European countries). A good percentage of them are gonna act like they belong in mental institutions as they desperately try to find a dopamine hit through materialism alone. On the bright side, I've come across plenty of Gen Z people who reject whatever has been spoon-fed to them (which means most likely they are one step ahead). But the effects of whatever bullshit has been forced on us is gonna linger for decades and we're far from over, we've gone past many stages but there are many stages left. Fertility rate on the other hand is collapsing horrendously so a lot of people in Gen Alpha will see more abandoned buildings than we do. And about nostalgia, there will be so much more yearning for nostalgia than before which would further increase erratic behavior.

 

[Big Dogs Gonna Eat]

I can only imagine how horrifyingly dumbed down the education standards got as a result of lockdown and remote classes

I'm in a relationship with a teacher and her stories make it sound pretty grim. 90% failed their provincial (state) standardized exams this year, and the school keeps passing them anyways. This is jr high (middle school) so I'm sure real high school will have a harsh reality for lots of these kids.


One thing about zoomers online that really aggravates me is they join forums or groups and ask questions that Google could easily answer. They'd rather take potential misinformation from a stranger online than read a manual or multiple sources. It bewilders me. I'm sure it's a result of social media always being present in their life.

 

[RX-78]

What good is being “fertile” in your 50s when:

1. Most young women aren’t attracted to men old enough to be their grandpa

Ha ha ha, oh God bless your innocent little heart.

 

[Drael]

I find it shocking how a mere ~6 years spelled a night/day difference in tech literacy. There's this video floating around of a toddler being unable to use a Gameboy Color and swiping/tapping the screen in sheer bewilderment because she has no concept of buttons. When I first pointed out elsewhere how fucked the future generations were going to be in that aspect I got dogpiled because "durrrh she's just a kid of course she doesn't know any better, salty boomer malding because a kid behaves like a kid!!!!11". Fast forward to now, little shits are completely baffled by any non-touchscreen device. My dad used to tell this parable that if you were to take away an American's credit card and automatic car and instead leave him with a wallet and a manual one then he'd be unable to get anything done. Prophetic, except it escalated to all adolescents. Replace the phone with an old nokia, leave a wallet and an old ford fiesta. Witness impuissance.

That reminds me of this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30253526 and the linked page within it talking about the younger generation and their lack of understanding of file systems. I've encountered this multiple times in the wild now with people ranging from 19-24. The most recent occurrence was an acquaintance complaining that he couldn't download some file that was around 500MB. As it turned out, his hard drive was basically 99.9%~ full, with most of that space being the Windows install, Steam folder, and downloads folder as determined by Windirstat.

I told him to delete the mountain of downloads from that folder he had amassed for 3+ years in there that he didn't need. This was met with some variation of "I don't know how to delete that stuff". Turned out what he meant by that was he didn't know how to navigate to that directory. A little back and forth on this revealed he seemed to also believe that folder shortcuts duplicated all of the contents of the folder and that if something wasn't clickable on the desktop or start menu it didn't exist. Apparently he had been using Chrome's download history tab to open things he wanted to and thought this was an acceptable way of browsing his files.

 

[Kiwisee]

Ha ha ha, oh God bless your innocent little heart.

You obviously watch waaaay too much porn if you think that a mentally stable 18-25 year old foid is going to be attracted to men old enough to be her Grandfather.

You’re more likely to end up with a Grace Thorp or Faith Vickers type; you’ll always be second to her dad. And likely getting accused of being a groomer the second it becomes clear that you’re not going to find her early retirement (via dying so they can cash in on your inheritance funds).

You haven’t interacted with very many women under 25 and it shows.

 

[Geddy Lee's Fee and See]

You obviously watch waaaay too much porn if you think that a mentally stable 18-25 year old foid is going to be attracted to men old enough to be her Grandfather.

You’re more likely to end up with a Grace Thorp or Faith Vickers type; you’ll always be second to her dad. And likely getting accused of being a groomer the second it becomes clear that you’re not going to find her early retirement (via dying so they can cash in on your inheritance funds).

You haven’t interacted with very many women under 25 and it shows.

Not him, but there are a lot of women that will put out for a man, no matter how old, if he has money. It's not even a new thing either. Sugar daddies have existed for centuries, maybe millenia at this point. Not all women, probably not even most, but to say that there are only a few women into older men is inaccurate.

 

[Kiwisee]

Not him, but there are a lot of women that will put out for a man, no matter how old, if he has money. It's not even a new thing either. Sugar daddies have existed for centuries, maybe millenia at this point. Not all women, probably not even most, but to say that there are only a few women into older men is inaccurate.

In other words, predatory women are the kind to go for older men.

It’s insane how in denial people are of how many predatory foids are out there that only see an older man as a big payday (and will move on to the next sucker if they can’t kill him off for the inheritance money that would come with marriage)

 

[RX-78]

>assault salt

Lmao, I have no clue why biological facts trigger you like a woman on xitter but suck it up. A woman's reproductive viability collapses the moment she turns thirty while a man has decades left, get over yourself.

 

[incognitoad]

All of the Gen Zers I've met are weird. They're definitely less reckless than the earlier generations and arguably more responsible. However, that responsibility comes from the fact they don't do anything. Their idea of a fun Friday night is playing Helldivers 2 with their friends online for an hour. They don't even fucking shit talk. Their rooms are unironically legit goonercaves. It's like they heard "Stay in your pod" and took it as fucking advice. A lot of them refuse to drive. They just don't see it as a necessity. They just aren't very social people.

Dear Gen Z, when I said "Stay In Your Pod and Eat The Bugs" it was a warning. You weren't supposed to actually do it you fucking tards.

Since this is a common perspective on Gen Z, I will attempt to explain their point of view to you.

The goal of social gatherings like a night out drinking, a grill, a party etc. is to feel good together. This goal is emotional fulfillment, which is shallow, and as such, can be more efficiently achieved using other means. Playing videogames with your friends online gives you a comparable emotional hit at a lower cost, especially in terms of setup time. For many, even parasocial relationships are enough to scratch the itch. This is rarely consciously realized, but you can observe it through revealed preference (actions, not words).

The proposition for zoomers you implicitly stated is to return to "being social". To rephrase, you suggest replacing one method of emotional fulfillment with another that requires more effort. This advice leaves the goal of emotional fulfillment unchanged and is instead concerned with the way to get there. Zoomers that are emotionally satisfied by what they are doing now will see no reason to change, and those that feel a deeper void within themselves already feel or consciously know that emotional highs are not enough to fill it. Our times are emotionally oversaturated. The attention economy is a competition for who can reliably fulfill the emotional needs of an audience. In such a world, yet another way to satiate one's emotions falls on deaf ears. It can't compete with the dopamine high the rest of the market offers.

Having given that reaction, here's proactive advice for filling the void:

1. Improve your understanding of the world.

You live in times of information overload. This is unprecedented. Before the Internet, information was scarce and alternative sources hard to come by. If you grew up with YouTube, you have likely listened to a huge number of people holding seemingly differing opinions. Ask yourself, and this is not a test, it is for your benefit, what assumptions you have about the world. Example: do you think non-profit charities are more moral than businesses? The clearer your picture, the more confident you can be in your actions to affect the world around you.

Take a break from consuming content and take notes on what comes to mind when you don't have anything flowing in from the outside. Sort it into distractions, bad ideas, interesting topics, good ideas, add whatever category you need. Use this to calm your mind and explore what you think, independently of what you've heard from other people - obviously including what you've heard from me. Analyze this post and figure out what you think of the subject matter, not just the post itself. If you find it hard, do it in small intervals, your capacity to withstand it will improve with time, as long as you commit to doing it.

2. Take responsibility for your life.

Get rid of self-deprecation, depression jokes, endless complaining, excuses, raging at nonsense, half-truths, euphemisms and anything that clouds your view of reality. Words have power, because they form your thoughts, and your thoughts inform your actions. Controlling what you say is the first step to controlling your thoughts, and that leads to control over your actions.

Taking responsibility means accepting that while not everything is your fault, you have a choice in how you respond. If something bad happens to you, you can curl into a ball and indulge in how bad you have it, or you can take some time to calm down, evaluate your options and act in a way that moves you forward from the spot you find yourself in. The choice between being a perpetual victim and taking responsibility for your life is perhaps the most important decision you will ever make. Choose wisely.

3. Set goals. Start small.

If you have a realistic view on your own situation and the context in which you live, find something you can improve. Don't try to start with everything, take one thing and inch it forward, day by day, until it no longer takes much effort to do. Then pick another thing, while making sure to continue the first thing. Exercise your will to the point where you can pick a reasonably sized goal, pick a path to it and then implement it in your life.

4. Choose a goal greater than yourself.

Maybe you are already doing things. Maybe you've heard the self-improvement spiel a million times already and you want something new. After you have a reasonably clear view and the capability to enact change in the world, you'll arrive at a crossroads. Where you go from here is your choice.

This is where faith, as I understand it, comes into play. This choice is spiritual in nature. You're choosing a foundation for your life, a way to distinguish right from wrong. For me, this foundation is the Christian God. An important consideration for this decision is to choose a framework that includes objectivity (a frame of reference external to any human), as that allows you to work with other people by enabling cooperation and external standards, which is not possible with subjective "my truth". Another is that this decision must be a true commitment in the sense that you must act according to what you've chosen - you need to remain vigilant and actively maintain your understanding, as well as evaluate if your actions match your stated convictions.

5. Community.

The next step after is to find like-minded people and/or convince people to follow down the same path. This step I cannot give you a recipe for. After the previous steps, this one you must figure out in the context in which you find yourself. You will likely run into existing communities and be disappointed that they do not understand your approach to life. You will likely have to start something of your own. You will likely have to learn from your own failures, as opposed to from the failures of others before you. Don't stress too hard about this if you don't have the previous steps sorted, everything in its proper order.

I believe if you approach this with brutal honesty and dig deep enough, you will find God, and he will guide your life. Good luck on your journey.

 

[Kiwisee]

Lmao, I have no clue why biological facts trigger you like a woman on xitter but suck it up. A woman's reproductive viability collapses the moment she turns thirty while a man has decades left, get over yourself.

I’m just warning men not to put themselves into dangerous situations with women, that’s all. But if you insists on repeating the same retarded manosphere twitter talking points, I’ll refute them with sources this time.

Doesn’t change the fact that you’re still wrong, cause men start declining at 30 as well.

Quote:

“

Male Fertility Facts​

• Peak male fertility is around 25-29 years old.
• Sperm quality begins to decline at 30.
• Around 36-37, damage to sperm DNA begins to increase, and risk for genetic disease increases slightly
• At 45, men begin to experience a significant decrease in semen volume.
• Older men can also take longer to conceive a child.
• As men age, testosterone production begins to decline, impacting sexual function and sperm quality.”

Here’s some further reading, so you can stop coping about being in your 50s. And yes, just like with women, 30+ year old men have a higher likelihood of producing kids with genetic defects.

Quit being part of the problem and telling young men that they can be degenerates in their 20s-30s, then settle down. Its just as bad as telling women that they can grind in their 20s and just settle down in their 40s once they’ve had established careers.

TL;DR: Cope, Moid. You aren’t 20 anymore, and you should stop trying to justify opening yourself up to potentially predatory women.