Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

The fighting continued after the Clone Wars officially ended in pre and post Disney buyout. Pre Disney the Clone War aftermath including hunting down surviving Jedi and affiliates had be a mainstay of SW EU comics for several years. As the Separatists included a large number of organics fighting in addition to the droids. Of whom not all of them were shutdown when the command was sent to them. Hence the mop up lasting longer than the Clone Wars did. Seeing how remnants of the Separatists helped formed the Rebellion.
 
Do these people EVER try to explain why the roughly 70% of America that isn't white males don't watch this crap?
Because even they know that Star Wars' main audience are white and sometimes asian nerds with too much disposable income, but since they're starting to move away from the franchise they're trying to bring them back into it by shaming them into supporting the show since god forbid they make something that's actually good and worth watching.
 

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THE POWER OF ONE!
THE POWER OF TWO!
THE POWER OF MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

"What have you done?"
"What have YOU done?"
"WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?"

Who looked at this script and said "this is peak Star Wars"? I sincerely to apologize to George Lucas, because his dialogue is Shakespearean compared to Leslye Hedland's crap.

So Darth Plagueis obviously stole the power of Force Impregnation from STRONG WOMEN who don't need no man. They took the Witches of Dathomir from the EU and made them completely boring.
The Jedi have done nothing against these problems.
I was under the impression that they couldn't act independent of the Republic or the Jedi Council after the Ruusan Reformation.
They could've assembled militias and eradicated practices like slavery, showing that Republic laws have teeth.
Does that include on worlds practicing slavery that weren't members of the Republic? Does the Republic go to war with Nal Hutta and a good chunk of the Outer Rim? Oh wait, the Jedi tried that (Zygerria) and as Yoda admitted later, not only did the Zygerrians continue the trade in secret, but they joined the Separatists because of it.
LOL, this is why many abhor the Jedi's hypocrisy. They claim to be detached from emotions and are defenders of the weak yet are apathetic to the plight of the oppressed. They openly support a corrupt government body despite having the "enlightenment." They have the might yet are too hesistant on where to side in a war until it is too late.
Okay, David Brin.
After 1000 of war between the Jedi and the Sith, the Jedi, understandably, lost their stomach for war (especially considering that some of their members had just suffered a fate worse than death thanks to the Kaan's Thought Bomb) and the Republic had no further desire for a militarized Jedi Order.
They could've banned the use of corporate droid armies, forcing corporations to rely on Jedi and Republic security forces for protection, thereby keeping them honest and lessening the chances of them abusing the law when they have their own armies.
And when the Republic (LOL at Jedi riding shotgun on a trade ship) lose a cargo to pirates, who pays for the loss or the fatalities? The Republic? Battle/security droids don't have spouses/children who can sue for wrongful death.
The Jedi have done nothing against these problems.
So the guardians of the Republic are supposed to defy the Republic (Supreme Chancellor and Judicial Department) in the name of 'solving problems'? Isn't that how Revan started out? And then fixing the Republic's problems eventually morphed into supplanting the Republic?
 
At least he made it to the end of the movie. The muff divers get rekt in the backstory.

When the generator exploded, it's like the droid control ship exploding and the battle droids all broken. The witches all just stopped functioning without the magic generator.

How retarded will the explanation of why they were all just dead or appearing to be?
 
I was under the impression that they couldn't act independent of the Republic or the Jedi Council after the Ruusan Reformation.
That's the problem. The Ruusan Reformation chopped off their balls.

Does that include on worlds practicing slavery that weren't members of the Republic? Does the Republic go to war with Nal Hutta and a good chunk of the Outer Rim? Oh wait, the Jedi tried that (Zygerria) and as Yoda admitted later, not only did the Zygerrians continue the trade in secret, but they joined the Separatists because of it.
Then the Republic should've done to them what they did to Mandalore. If Republic laws can't be enforced, or if all you need to do to get away from Republic laws is move to the Outer Rim, then they might as well not exist.

After 1000 of war between the Jedi and the Sith, the Jedi, understandably, lost their stomach for war (especially considering that some of their members had just suffered a fate worse than death thanks to the Kaan's Thought Bomb) and the Republic had no further desire for a militarized Jedi Order.
And so they let corporations build up armies of millions of battle droids instead. They traded a Jedi theocracy for a corporate feudalism where each corporate entity within the Republic can practically carve out their own empires and invade member states and get away with it.

Tell me how that's better.

And when the Republic (LOL at Jedi riding shotgun on a trade ship) lose a cargo to pirates, who pays for the loss or the fatalities? The Republic? Battle/security droids don't have spouses/children who can sue for wrongful death.
Battle droids also can commit war crimes on planets they take over. Which means the Republic just lost sovereign power to a bunch of corpos that practically have life or death power over the worlds they have influence over. The Republic might as well not exist. Corporate dystopia made real, all thanks to the Republic's apathy. Like Kreia said, ''Apathy is Death'', and the Republic's apathy towards the people dominated by evil space corpos led to its demise, as worlds controlled by corporations will secede from the Republic if the corporation says so. Even if the people there are loyal to the Republic, they can't do shit, since if they don't go along with seceding from the Republic, the corporate battle droids would have them face the wall and shoot them down.

And even if that corpo is good, well, if that corpo decides to secede from the Republic, the people on that planet, thankful for corporate protection, will secede with them, since to them, the Republic doesn't exist outside of some entity that soaks up tax money from them. The corporation is the organization that's been protecting them; the Republic does nothing for them outside of take their money and on occasion, send psychic space samurai to remind them that the Republic holds them by the balls. At that point, the Republic is nothing more but a useless government entity stealing money from the good corporations that provided jobs for these people as well as protection. Wouldn't you want to secede from a government that literally does nothing for you?

So the guardians of the Republic are supposed to defy the Republic (Supreme Chancellor and Judicial Department) in the name of 'solving problems'? Isn't that how Revan started out? And then fixing the Republic's problems eventually morphed into supplanting the Republic?
They're the guardians of peace and justice, yet they enforce neither; they instead enforce peace and justice for corrupt, rich senators who don't give a flying shit about the needs of the people outside of the core worlds.

No wonder Dooku found so many recruits for the Separatist movement to secede from a worthless Republic, and no wonder so many people supported Palpatine and signed up for the Empire when the latter made an about-face and decided to have a centralized regime. At the very least, both movements decided NOT to just suck up to rich highborn cunts who controlled the Senate.

Oh, and by the way, Revan worked with the full authority and backing of the Republic, and his plan would've worked if he didn't wage war on the Republic. Shit, if I were him, I'd have just run for Chancellor after the Mandalorian Wars. Would've saved them a war.
 
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I think it's rather obvious, they were poisoned with the yellow tree sap - why else would they bring up it being poisonous at the very beginning of the episode?
As for the culprit, either one of the twins or lady Maul.

I assumed that was just a call back to poison being used in the previous episode. The problem with horrible writing is that you either expect too much, or too little of what it all means and where it is going.

Why would anyone poison them all though? How and why?

Back to my point about bad writing and no expectations. Maybe it'll be something retarded like a rift between the sisters killed all the witches. Their life force was tied to the power of two, to fuel the power of many.
 
Why would anyone poison them all though? How and why?
They likely had some water supply or water filtration system, poisoning it wouldn't be difficult. And the poison being used to kill one of the Jedi suggests it has some significance to either the Sith or the evil twin, like eye for an eye.
Why? Because every character in this show so far is retarded.
 
if all you need to do to get away from Republic laws is move to the Outer Rim, then they might as well not exist.
Uh, that's how sovereignty and jurisdiction work. Your laws and your ability to enforce them, end at your borders.
Tell me how that's better.
Soon as you tell me when and where this 'Jedi theocracy' took place in the Star Wars universe and what they were 'theologizing'. Jedi have never worshipped the Force nor claimed that anyone should.
Like Kreia said, ''Apathy is Death''
My brother in Christ, Kreia did not say that in the game. That was an illusion created by the Sith tomb on Korriban.

We taking philosophy lessons from Dark Side phantasms now?
No wonder Dooku found so many recruits for the Separatist movement
Among the corpos you were screaming are corrupt a second ago.
no wonder so many people supported Palpatine and signed up for the Empire when the latter made an about-face and decided to have a centralized regime.
Okay, now you're just fucking around.
 
When the generator exploded, it's like the droid control ship exploding and the battle droids all broken. The witches all just stopped functioning without the magic generator.

How retarded will the explanation of why they were all just dead or appearing to be?
It turns out the book was the Costa Mojin, the entire coven was its meat puppets the entire time. The writers mayy have actually considered this given that a similar device was in a Harry Potter book.

And it seems that @LORD IMPERATOR and @Pentex have located a crucial flaw with the Jedi, albeit from opposite angles: they serve two masters, and inevitably wind up tangled in contradiction when their duty to the Force (or their philosophy, depending on your spin) and their duty to the Republic contradict.

Historically, militant religious orders have operated with a great deal of autonomy. They may have some big picture loyalty to some higher temporal authority, but in the day to day operation they function as de facto micronations- they set their own agendas based on their ideology, and they certainly aren't going yo be doing dogsbody work like resolving tax disputes. OFC that raises the question as to why the Jedi value the Republic ad such- unless there's something I missed, there's nothing in their philosophy that favors one giant unwieldy galactic government over any other configuration of power.
 
Uh, that's how sovereignty and jurisdiction work. Your laws and your ability to enforce them, end at your borders.
Which again, is funny how the oh-so-democratic-and-powerful Republic lets the very same evils they condemn exist right next to their borders. Even though they could easily muster an army to stop it.

Britain didn't own the African slave kingdoms that sold slaves, yet they still found time enough to put guns to their faces and tell them to shut down the slave trade. If only the Republic had that kind of balls, Anakin and countless billions wouldn't have lived through slavery.

Soon as you tell me when and where this 'Jedi theocracy' took place in the Star Wars universe and what they were 'theologizing'. Jedi have never worshipped the Force nor claimed that anyone should.
Apparently you forgot about the New Sith Wars. Jedi took over the Republic and ran it as a strictly Light-Side state where any Dark-Sider is banished and declared anathema.

My brother in Christ, Kreia did not say that in the game. That was an illusion created by the Sith tomb on Korriban.
It's still the truth. An apathetic regime will eventually die, because nobody will pay heed or loyalty to it. Hence why the Republic died; one half of the galaxy seceded from it to form their own state, and the other half allowed it to die and be replaced by an autocracy, because anything is better than utter chaos.

We taking philosophy lessons from Dark Side phantasms now?
Well, it's the truth. Sometimes even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Among the corpos you were screaming are corrupt a second ago.
I was only talking about hypotheticals. But either way, the Republic giving corporations autonomy destroys their authority.

If the corpos were evil, they can plot against the Republic with impunity within their territories because the Republic practically surrendered control. Even if the people in those worlds are loyal to the Republic, they'll have to shut their mouths because the corpos can kill them at any time.

If the corpos were good, as in they actually did their job to provide for the people jobs and economic security, the people in those territories would feel more sympathy for the corpos than for a government that does nothing but collect tax money. So if the corpos want to secede, the people will go with them.

Okay, now you're just fucking around.
Actually, no. People who signed up for the Empire witnessed how fucked up and disorganized the Old Republic was, and it was an easy sell for Palpatine to promise them a better government. Trillions upon trillions of people signed on, hoping that the Empire would fix what the Republic can't.

TL;DR the Republic is so fucked up that Space Hitler managed to lure many logical, smart, and well-intentioned people into serving his Empire because the Republic was just that bad.

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And it seems that @LORD IMPERATOR and @Pentex have located a crucial flaw with the Jedi, albeit from opposite angles: they serve two masters, and inevitably wind up tangled in contradiction when their duty to the Force (or their philosophy, depending on your spin) and their duty to the Republic contradict.
One cannot serve two masters, God and Mammon. The Jedi eventually chose to serve Mammon, ie. the worldly Senators, since we know from AOTC that their connection to the Force was weakening, which means their connection to the Force was beginning to wane. And as Kenobi said, their loyalty was to the Republic, to Democracy, he doesn't say that their loyalty is to the Will of the Force. But as he uttered those words, the very same democracy he bent the knee to crowned his generation's greatest Jedi-killer as their new Emperor. Which goes to show that he, and the Jedi Order as a whole, chose the wrong master.

Historically, militant religious orders have operated with a great deal of autonomy. They may have some big picture loyalty to some higher temporal authority, but in the day to day operation they function as de facto micronations- they set their own agendas based on their ideology, and they certainly aren't going yo be doing dogsbody work like resolving tax disputes. OFC that raises the question as to why the Jedi value the Republic ad such- unless there's something I missed, there's nothing in their philosophy that favors one giant unwieldy galactic government over any other configuration of power.
The closest I've been able to gleam is from SWTOR, where the Jedi Knight or the Jedi Consular says something about how the Republic preserves countless civilizations within its embrace. But the official Lucasian reason from the movies was that they swore allegiance to democracy, as Kenobi stated. Such writing is a relic from a bygone age when we all thought that democracy automatically meant good, hence why all the good guys swore allegiance to democracies or defended it.

In reality, a militant religious order would either maintain its own Ordenstaat, or order-state, like the Teutonic Knights, or swear allegiance to a religious authority, like how some Catholic religious orders swore allegiance to the Papacy. If the Jedi Order were any bit realistic at all, they'd swear their allegiance to the Jedi High Council, and not to the Republic, especially given how worldly and blind to the Force the Republic leadership is. They'd have their own Ordenstaat, probably in Tython or Dantooine, and they'd probably have representation in the Republic Senate as a member world, or be completely independent of the Republic altogether.
 
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Disney's really turned into pure evil, I'm angry now that Inside Out 2 did so well. Star Wars Theory is the most milquetoast kind of criticism but Disney's apparently at war with him and a lot of others too and Youtube's beholden to them. Fuck.. These.. Companies..

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Best to ignore them from now on. I mean they already drove away their customers (ex. white straight men with money). They'll eventually rot when their audience numbers steadily decline.
 
Best to ignore them from now on. I mean they already drove away their customers (ex. white straight men with money). They'll eventually rot when their audience numbers steadily decline.
I had a free trial on Disney through my cell phone, that's the only time I 'paid' for any of this shit. I used it for Mando season 1, and it was fine. Season 2 was decent, like it ok. Then pirated it since, 2 fell off quite a lot. Then 3, 3 eps and done. I pirated Book of BF and Obiwan and was appalled. Andor I watched 2 eps and was bored, don't care. Ashoka a few eps, appalled.

These shows aren't even worst nothing now since Mando season 2. They're painfully awful. They even know it because so far only one of their series had more than a single season.

Above all else they are spending so much on these and they look CHEAP. If they had some decent space battles I could at least watch those, but there's nothing here. And now they're going to try blackmailing and strong arming people that criticize them?
 
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