Trashfire MNPublicRecords CHIPS file on Rekieta's 9-year-old testing positive for cocaine - All parties are assumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

[Otis Mallebrok]

Okay, just to play devil's advocate here, the most reasonable explanation for a positive hair follicle test may be that the metabolites are the result of a prescription medication.

It WOULD perhaps be the most reasonable explanation, but most people are willing to believe the worst about Rekieta. You know, after he made his familys home into a bordello-cocaine-dungeon.

 

[CertifiedFedBot]

This shit is genuinely horrifying, I hope for the kids sake that there's a non-insane explanation for why the test result was so high. Maybe this is why you don't keep a El Chapoean amounts of drugs in your house riddled with kids.
What the fuck happened to him, is this the degenerate company he kept, or do you think this is what he always was?

 

[AmpleApricots]

First exposure to this dude for me was him making fun of russel greer in a stream. He came across rambling and like a dude who *thinks* he is very funny. He failed. It's quite the feat to fail making fun of Russel Greer.

Somehow he gives me Lowtaxian vibes. Lowtax blew his brains out when everything else failed and for a first time in his life, he actually had to face the music and deal with the consequences of his own behavior. Dude's kinda got the same energy in that regard.

 

[Null]

Amide anaesthetics won't ping a false positive for cocaine. There aren't any medications that will. The most plausible scenario where the kid wasn't using cocaine is that the lab techs just completely shat their pants and and mixed up her paperwork with a crackhead's somehow.

just fyi dyn is probably the most qualified person to speak on this particular topic on the entire site and if he says there's no Rx that'd show up in the test I believe him.

 

[GenociderSyo]

If she was temporarily prescribed a -caine suffix medication like Lidocaine or Novacaine for a routine procedure, that may not show up on her Rx list but would be in her system? But if that's true, would it show up in the quantities demonstrated by the results?

I'm rather sure the amount found in her hair would be too high for it to be from another source. ChildGuard which is the hair test used on children specifically states that if it is positive it was ingestion for her age. And research states that beyond a certain age ChildGuard can dictate if its acute or chronic ingestion though I am not sure what the age cut off is (Can't get access to the study and its participants were 4 to 15).

 

[AltisticRight]

I’m not. I’m saying if what Nick is saying is true I understand why he’s acting the way he is.

You're suggesting someone messed up hair samples.
Hair collected, put into barcoded baggie.
Baggie processed and tested for.
You're saying they mixed the samples up, how? So they tested Kayla's hair instead or what? It's getting dumber and dumber.

Considering how many of them there are, It really wouldn’t surprise me that they mixed up one brown hair with another. And that’s before even considering the brown hair was even of the Rackets family.

Some Googling here suggests that kids exposed to Cocaine can test positive through testing even though they may not have ever intentionally consumed cocaine.

That's why there's a cutoff.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

What the fuck happened to him, is this the degenerate company he kept, or do you think this is what he always was?

Always was, hence why he kept the company he did. He routinely said he’d do the kind of stuff he’s done if he had the money.

People just didn’t think it would be to this degree or he’d at least be smart enough to keep it out of the house.

And considering this all seemed to really kick of at the start of the year when they stopped keeping things away from the house…I assume the last degrees of sense left him.

 

[feral cat #6385]

It could have lasting effects, yes, but it really depends on how much and how often the kid was ingesting it. Statistically, she’s much more likely to become an addict herself. Ask any alcoholic/drug addict when they first used, and more often than not, it’s going to be at a very young age and they got access due to the parents. Just a really sad situation all the way around.

Hopefully she doesn't end up the next Mint Salad.

 

[Cane Skretteburg]

Not very impressed about the allegations that the Rekietas were intentionally giving their daughter cocaine/ sexually abusing her. As messed up as it sounds, kids of junkie parents get into mom and dad’s stash a lot. Also, 10x the cutoff isn’t as impressive for a 9 year old as it would be for a grown adult. Regardless, there’s probably no chance of getting out from under those child abuse charges now.

 

[Konstantin Romanov]

Okay, just to play devil's advocate here, the most reasonable explanation for a positive hair follicle test may be that the metabolites are the result of a prescription medication.

In support of this,

• Being prescribed Adderall is a valid defense as to why urinalysis will test positive for methamphetamine (which is not cocaine, but there are similar cases with cocaine).
• 9-year-old had narcolepsy, where stimulants may be prescribed. Unsure, but I think also ADHD?
• If she is the only one prescribed a -caine suffix medication, that would explain why she is the only one that tested positive.

In argument against this,

• Managing drug addicts is effectively the #1 job of the criminal justice system. I find it difficult to believe that the tests do not pull a list of her prescriptions and cross-reference that against her results, especially in the extraordinary case of a 9-year-old testing positive.
• This defense does effectively require the state to lie by omission.

If she was temporarily prescribed a -caine suffix medication like Lidocaine or Novacaine for a routine procedure, that may not show up on her Rx list but would be in her system? But if that's true, would it show up in the quantities demonstrated by the results?

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Edit: Dyn is highly qualified to speak on this. If he says there's no chance of false positive, I believe him.

Adderall


Ritalin


Not found to cross-react meaning they do not give a positive even at the screening stage of the coke test.

 

[Digital Snow]

I don't know much about the foster system, but I hope cps doesn't separate the kids. I doubt Nick or his wife will regain custody (probably for the best at this point) but they need some kind of family. I can't imagine what this must be like for them, but having to deal with this alone would make it x10,000 worse.

 

[Sock Cucker]

Yo

You shouldn't. It actually makes Aaron look worse. Think about it. The fellow churchgoers who saw Nick's kids ONCE A WEEK

Um, remember that Nick sent his kids to church-home-school. Remember how he complained about having to drive them around?
Remember that one of the complainants was Kayla's own sister?
Dude, it was every day. Stop trolling.

Not stanning for Aaron, but he was thinking with his penis at that point. Not an excuse, but he appears to be peripheral .

 

[6MillionCoofs]

You're suggesting someone messed up hair samples.
Hair collected, put into barcoded baggie.
Baggie processed and tested for.
You're saying they mixed the samples up, how? So they tested Kayla's hair instead or what?

Something like that. Or wrote down the wrong name or number of performed the tests incorrectly.

It’s why you always get a second test done and triple check the results to make sure this kind of stuff is right.

The fact this info leaked is not helping things…

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

The actual test result maybe, but not this document.

Fucking Nick will never get his kids back. CPS will never give kids back to someone blocking CPS from drug test results.

That's what's so baffling. Why on earth would Nick refuse this to not get his kids back? Unless he didn't want them back which is entirely up to him and arguably the best decision as a father he could make at this point.

You're suggesting someone messed up hair samples.
Hair collected, put into barcoded baggie.
Baggie processed and tested for.
You're saying they mixed the samples up, how? So they tested Kayla's hair instead or what? It's getting dumber and dumber.

I wish I had the faith in people to not be retarded at their jobs that you do.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Requiem For a Nick.

Thread OST

I wish Nick a million amputated arms and ass to ass encounters in prison.

 

[Owlbear]

You're suggesting someone messed up hair samples.
Hair collected, put into barcoded baggie.
Baggie processed and tested for.
You're saying they mixed the samples up, how? So they tested Kayla's hair instead or what? It's getting dumber and dumber.

Labs do this all the time. You open the sample bag, go have a chat with your buddy who asks what you're doing this weekend, and then you open another bag to start running it, run the sample, report the result, then realize you have an opened one, think "glad I caught that before running it" and run that one for the next test. Bingo, two swapped results. The vast majority of samples are run correctly, but many labs will have a significant number of mixups per month.

That's why there's a cutoff.

The cutoffs are tuned for these tests to set the false positive and false negative rates. False positives are clean people identified as druggies and false negatives are druggies identified as clean. Given the false negative rates from studies cited elsewhere in this thread, I would assume that this cutoff is set so that a false positive is essentially impossible. This test is so overly generous to druggies that it will return a negative result on some of them in order to have certainty when the result is positive.

Compare this to COVID tests that will basically never have a false negative, but have something like a 25% false positive rate.

 

[Dyn]

Not very impressed about the allegations that the Rekietas were intentionally giving their daughter cocaine/ sexually abusing her. As messed up as it sounds, kids of junkie parents get into mom and dad’s stash a lot. Also, 10x the cutoff isn’t as impressive for a 9 year old as it would be for a grown adult. Regardless, there’s probably no chance of getting out from under those child abuse charges now.

Agreed with that, my gut says the kid just got into their stash one time and geeked out so hard the test came back hot. People breathlessly speculating about child molestation are just being ridiculous.

Cocaine's not even the right drug to rape kids with.

 

[Xander from the Future]

This, this has crossed the line.
Drugs, to kids. Cocaine no less?
VILE. I AM MAD AT THE INTERNET.
SUBHUMAN. ALL THE NOSEGUARDING, ALL THE DISMISSAL OF WELLBEING OF THE KIDS, AND NOW THIS? GUARD THIS YA BASTARDS.
BURN IN HELL REKIETAS, YOU TOO CUCKOLD STEELTOE, AND THE FUCKING WHORE OF BABYLON. AND ALL THE THOSE WHO SWEPT UP THE EVIL COMMITTED FOR YEARS.
I DAMN YOU. BURN

 

[Deputy Riddle]

You shouldn't. It actually makes Aaron look worse. Think about it. The fellow churchgoers who saw Nick's kids ONCE A WEEK noticed one of their kids was tweaking and they looked and smelled like shit. Aaron, who just spent weeks asserting he never did cocaine with them and was SOBER, somehow either didn't notice this or didn't care. Not for nothing, but Nick and Kayla are so doped up and retarded they can't remember to feed their kids. At least they have some kind of excuse. But Aaron was fucking sober and still didn't give a shit. I don't buy it that he didn't know.

The way you guys jump through hoops to defend this scumbag orbiter is appalling. Just because he releases spicy details doesn't mean he isn't one of them.

Thank fucking God someone else notices this shit. It doesn't matter what Aaron went through, this sack of shit is being a grifter and there are people siding with him despite obvious issues including ones you've mentioned. These are children and because people hate nick and this guy is saying shit to reaffirm that hate doesn't excuse his lack of action.

I don't know how anyone can disregard a NINE YEAR OLD CHILD on drugs. Aaron deserves actual life ruination. If he couldn't do the right thing when it inconvenienced him then to me Aaron is even worse then nick. He's trying to grift off a child's suffering for his personal gain.

Sum it up "tolerance of evil is as vile as the act of evil on display"

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Pure speculation of the absolute worse case scenario for why the daughter had cocaine was in her system.
But if it was a method of control to silence and cover up sexual abuse, could this also explain why Kayla seems to have spiraled so hard so quickly over the last 6 months?

Dude, cocaine would be the last drug to use to "silence and cover" up sexual abuse. It makes people super hyper and excitable. People use sedating drugs to facilitate child sexual abuse. You need victims zonked out or unconscious to abuse kids, not super alert and going 1000 miles per hour.

We know Nick, Kayla and new mommy have been locking themselves in rooms for hours to snort coke. Nick carries a to-go bullet of coke with him when he travels. Any kid in that house with two eyes is aware that mommy and daddy really like that white stuff. In fact they have noticed their entire lives revolve around that magic powder. A smart nine year old understands what mom and dad are doing. She probably is smart enough to find out more about cocaine online or via various media. No matter what "bad stuff" she's been told about cocaine she sees how much her parents like it and use it. I think she would have been intensely curious about it and looked for an opportunity to try it. Nick left his bullet on the couch again, or left some lines out on a desk or dresser, and the kid had the chance. I doubt the kid would snort it, it's weird and uncomfortable but she'd probably put her finger in it like it was sugar and give it a go.

My parents had a bar in the house. When I was nine I remember going behind the bar with two of my friends to taste test a bottle of brandy in a guitar shaped bottle. (Some nasty tourist bottle they got in Europe they never drank, but it always caught my eye because of the neat bottle shape.) Anyway, we took sips, it was gross, end of story. My parents weren't even drinkers. Yet I was still very curious about this "adults only" substance and wanted to give it a go. I also remember stealing my dad's cigarettes at that age and going out into the woods to try to smoke.

A nine year old would be incredibly curious about this white powder that her parents were obsessed with doing all the time and other adults whispering about. She might have been looking for an opportunity to try it or could have just stumbled over some left out and curiosity got the best of her. Suddenly seeing the "secret stuff" her parents were always hiding away to do, laying out to try would have been very, very tempting to a curious kid. I'd bet the older kids are very anti-drug and would have not been tempted to try it, but a nine year old is a different story. I believe this is the kid that Nick has stated he favors, so that also plays into it. While she might know others are mad at Dad, or upset about the drugs, the kid loves Dad, she's upset people are mad at Dad. If Dad is doing this stuff it must be okay or even good. She wants to do what Dad does.

I also tend to believe the theory that that "terrible thing" that happened a few months ago that Nick referred to could have been the kid getting into the cocaine, probably realized it by her behavior. I highly doubt they took the kid to the hospital, if that would have happened the CPS investigation would have started right then. So they probably had a few hours of worry and concern to make sure it wasn't too much for her system. They probably felt very guilty for a day or two until that was all erased by more coke and booze. It would explain the relatively high amount the follicle test turned up in only one kid - a big taste test the nine year old undertook thanks to coke being left out or her seeking it out and easily finding while Dad was banging the new mommy and old mommy cried.