Trashfire MNPublicRecords CHIPS file on Rekieta's 9-year-old testing positive for cocaine - All parties are assumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

[Desktop User2]

The only rational inference here is the document is legitimate, the test results are accurate, and Nick knows they're accurate. We're well beyond the stage where giving any benefit of the doubt to this bullshit golem makes sense.

Most people are caveating their opinion with the test being right. Even if there is a ridiculous small chance of it being wrong, the only thing we can say about it is that it was wrong. Everybody is commenting on the case as the evidence is presented - and some retards are going off on maxpedorape via coke, but most people are being reasonable about it.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

What difference would it make? For him to get the guard back of the children they would have to be constantly tested for a period. For his criminal troubles, they got the evidence from their master bedroom.

Positive hair follicle tests on him and Kayla would just be 2 more pieces of evidence he’d have to get thrown out, and since it looks like his whole strategy is to get the warrant and evidence all thrown out, why add positive drug tests on him and his wife on to the top of the pile? Thats what he’s thinking. If he gets the warrant tossed, and all the evidence gleaned from it tossed, and there’s no positive drug test on him and Kayla, he figures he’s home free, and it’s not like even if they’d taken the tests that they’d have gotten their kids back right then. They’re both under indictment right now over the dope and child abuse and one of their kids came back super-hot on a drug test for coke.

Not that any of that is going to work but it’s Nick so he’s convinced himself it will and is behaving accordingly

 

[AnsemSoD1]

Nick should have been the one beaten in Portugal (first at least)

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I wonder why Nick didn't ask for a second test if he's so sure it's wrong.

He might have. We’ll have to wait and see. This wasn’t meant to be public after all.

The little bitch didn't even deny the results, just complained they were leaked.

Seemed pretty adamant about complaining that what wss in the leak was wrong. He just did not specify how. Which was probably wise. Just said people lie.

 

[AnOminous]

It was suspicious at the time because he first said that day 1 and 2 of the cancellations were because HE was sick, and then on day 3 he implied he was away from home and would do a late show before cancelling it saying "have a medical issue". Then Thursday night he said he had to sit beside someone all night to make sure they were okay.

This is one of the major ways Nick talks like a giant lying faggot and his shit's all retarded. He thinks he's being clever like nobody can notice his ever-shifting bullshit stories. I think he didn't want to admit it was a kid at first because it was still possible she'd literally die, and only went to that once the emergency was over.

Before this document I wouldn't have assumed the least charitable possibility but now, why not? It seems a lot more likely that one acute overdose resulted in a lot of metabolites in the hair than that a nine year old was banging seven gram rocks like Charlie Sheen, unless we go down the far grimmer road of the absolute worst possibility, which I honestly don't even want to think about and if it comes to that, I'm probably checking out a while because it makes me sick even to contemplate.

Just the fact that I can't even rule it out as a non-possibility makes me feel bad.

Seemed pretty adamant about complaining that what wss in the leak was wrong. He just did not specify how. Which was probably wise. Just said people lie.

So his usual lying liar who lies non-denial denial with no specifics.

He should either take this case seriously and shut the fuck up about it, or if he is talking about it, explicitly state on the record that there was no possibility whatsoever of his kid being exposed to cocaine and that the results are outright wrong, the guns were secured, period, etc. He can't do that.

He's lying. Again. For the millionth fucking time.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

he figures he’s home free.

Which could be a reason stuff leaked. To ensure damage is done to him even if he wins.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Last night's stream substantially increased the likelyhood of Nick doing prison time. There are some judges who would see the best outcome here to send Nick to prison for a year and send Kayla to a program. The thought being that there is a more of a chance of reclamation project on Kayla working if she is seperated from Nick and she might be rehabbed to a point where she could parent the children again.

Can you give a TLDR of last night's stream? What happened? I've been saying the divorce arc is inevitable because a lawyer will advise her to throw Nick under the bus to save her own hide. If she plays good rehabbing mom she can get her kids back.

 

[Desktop User2]

Positive hair follicle tests on him and Kayla would just be 2 more pieces of evidence he’d have to get thrown out, and since it looks like his whole strategy is to get the warrant and evidence all thrown out, why add positive drug tests on him and his wife on to the top of the pile? Thats what he’s thinking. If he gets the warrant tossed, and all the evidence gleaned from it tossed, and there’s no positive drug test on him and Kayla, he figures he’s home free, and it’s not like even if they’d taken the tests that they’d have gotten their kids back right then. They’re both under indictment right now over the dope and child abuse and one of their kids came back super-hot on a drug test for coke.

Not that any of that is going to work but it’s Nick so he’s convinced himself it will and is behaving accordingly

How would they charge him with possession without the evidence, mate? A hair follicle test wouldn´t be evidence of it.

 

[Banana Hammock]

Agreed with that, my gut says the kid just got into their stash one time and geeked out so hard the test came back hot.

Would that be enough to come back with 5000 pg? Someone linked a chart earlier that said 2000-10000 is daily/weekend usage.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Not that any of that is going to work but it’s Nick so he’s convinced himself it will and is behaving accordingly

It's a good idea in general to minimize the changes if you can, but honestly a drug test is the most minor piece of evidence for a case like this. If anything it might make things worse if they give the impression they weren't using drugs, because that implies they were intending to sell them, not use them personally.

Intent to sell is the real reason why these charges have such steep penalties.

I mean, yeah you can say "he should face all the consequences of his actions" but realistically, if charged with a crime would you not do anything you could to reduce your potential criminal exposure? Prisons in the US sure as hell aren't about rehabilitation no matter how much people want to make it sound like they are, he'll inevitably come out worse than he was when he went in.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Which could be a reason stuff leaked. To ensure damage is done to him even if he wins.

He wont win this one. He’s fucking toast. I’m sure the LOLyer his folks have hired for him has told him that very thing and advised him to shut up online/go to rehab/allow the LOLyer to negotiate a plea before shit gets any worse, but will do it Nick’s way just as long as those checks from the trust fund continue to clear

 

[Duke-Diggler]

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WTH!!!! IS THIS TRUE!??!?!

If this is true, I hate Nick and Kayla so fucking much. They deserve the rope. I feel sick.

Holy fucking shit.

I can't fucking believe it.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

he first step involves an enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) test, which is a rapid screening method.

So you're telling me that Nick has an ELISA a-logging him behind the scenes, and an Elissa a-logging him through clips? What are the odds.

 

[AnOminous]

You could shave your head all you want, it'd be ludicrous to try to charge someone with a crime for cutting their own hair.

You could definitely argue to a jury that the reason for doing so was to conceal the obvious exposure to cocaine, too. It implies knowledge of guilt, much like fleeing the country after committing a crime.

9.3% of the sample of DRUG USERS self-reported no coke use but tested positive for coke, which corresponds to a specificity of 90.7%.

The 9.3% can be considered a "false positive rate" but it's not necessarily the truth, as they could be lying, they could have forgot, or they could have taken something else which was contaminated with coke.

That's why you can't read much into the negative results. You'd really want a controlled study where you actually knew the rate of consumption.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I think he didn't want to admit it was a kid at first because it was still possible she'd literally die, and only went to that once the emergency was over.

That’s what a lot of parents would do in that situation honestly. Because you do not want to have to say to most people ‘kid in critical condition, might die’

 

[AltisticRight]

Can you give a TLDR of last night's stream?

 

[AncientPhosphur]

The simple logical explanation is that Nick did some bumps of coke off the butter dish and his 9 year old used the butter dish afterwards. That’s why Nick hates butter dishes.

Also I don’t recall the part in American Beauty where Spacey gave his kids coke.

 

[Strix454]

Can you give a TLDR of last night's stream? What happened? I've been saying the divorce arc is inevitable because a lawyer will advise her to throw Nick under the bus to save her own hide. If she plays good rehabbing mom she can get her kids back.

He gave his 1945 Hitler in the bunker speech. The government is evil. Nick is going to fight the government to the bitter end because he loves his wife and children. Anyone who doesn't support fighting to the bitter end or is suggesting compromise - especially among lawtube - are bad people.

He also (IMO) directly implied that CPS had done illegal acts and manufactured false evidience. For good measure, he even called out one person in CPS by name.

It was the kind of speech that a guy who didn't want CPS to ever give him his kids back would make. Just insane.

 

[Desktop User2]

You could definitely argue to a jury that the reason for doing so was to conceal the obvious exposure to cocaine, too. It implies knowledge of guilt, much like fleeing the country after committing a crime.

It wouldn´t even go to a trial if for some miracle they were able to fuck the warrant - there would be no drugs to charge him for. This hair theory is just stupid.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

The way I read it they were tested and then revoked their medical permissions disallowing the info to be released to CPS or something akin to that.

Yes, people are getting confused by conflating the criminal case and the CPS investigation, they are two separate matters. Any outcome of the criminal case could effect the CPS investigation.

Originally Nick and Kayla consented to CPS hair testing and then revoked permission. I don’t know if the criminal investigation is testing the samples anyway, it would be likely. Nick doesn’t have to do any piss tests as part of the criminal investigation because he chose the cash bail. (But anyone who was actually sober would want to submit to testing because it would help their case.)

All the CPS hair test would have done is confirmed they had used multiple illegal substances so not surprised they yoinked that. People that consent to it are usually doing so to prove they are innocent of using drugs. (Like when kids are removed from a home for drug abuse, but it’s only one parent abusing drugs. The other parent wants to be tested to prove she/he isn’t the problem.)

CPS has apparently visited the house and asked to see the premises - specifically the bedroom - and were refused. The criminal case had a warrant and didn’t need permission they just went in and collected evidence.

CPS can’t assume guilt just because parents are arrested so they give the parents voluntary opportunities to get custody back while a criminal case proceeds. This is why CPS had the kids hair tested independently of the criminal investigation and Nick couldn’t stop it. It’s why they offered to let Nick and Kayla submit to drug testing and house inspection, but they refused.

The refusal, lack of cooperation, is a huge red flag to CPS and indicates there are major safety issues in the home that make it unfit. Any sane, non-addict parent would say test me, look at my home, give me my kids back now! Addicts refuse to cooperate because any testing or cooperation will strength the case against them. But refusal is only slightly better than a hot piss test, because refusal indicates active use.

Nick and Kayla decided to choose drugs over their kids because they are addicts. The humiliation of peeing in a cup is nothing compared to your kids being in foster care, but Nick can’t submit to it because he’s still using. Nick has chosen that hill to die on.

He cares far more about his drugs and banging his side piece than he does his five kids, but we already knew that. I think ppl just hoped a few weeks post arrest he might get sober and start giving a fuck about his kids, but nothing has changed.