Sweet Baby Inc. and the Steam Curator Group Conspiracy - The company that is responsible for the diarrheic video game writing.

Yes.

Video Games are perhaps one of the most immersive forms of story telling ever imagined and one of the few that the reader can actually participate in. It's a massive metaphorical space where imaginations can truly run wild and there's virtually no limitations on what you can do.

There's also a key difference in what we call "bad", because it isn't "bad" - it's outright terrible. I think most people would be able to tolerate a well crafted story with a message they don't agree with or a focus on inclusivity or diversity that was actually artfully done. People don't care that Barett Wallace is black in Final Fantasy and people don't care that Alyx and Eli Vance are black in Half Life because they simply feel like real, natural characters from the world.

It's not just about the DEI - but they are completely shitting on a medium that can be worthwhile and using IPs that could be good to do so. Alan Wake 2 should have been a good time for people that are into it and not be about Magical Black Girl named "Saga" - but here we are.

TL;DR - they aren't just DEI consultants, they're also terrible writers who don't seem to get video games.
I would like to add an interesting little postscript to this: A lot of the current crop of DEI writers are not just failures, but long-term failures.

You guys hear about the most recent episode of that new Star Wars show, the Acolyte? It's almost experimentally incompetent, like on a fundamental level. What jumped out at me, however, mostly because a Kiwi some time ago wanted me to review a book, was that it wholesale ripped off a particularly insane feminist book I can virtually guarantee none of you have ever fucking heard of.

As writing departments have gotten increasing clogged with complete imbeciles who are often over-promoted, this kind of shit has become more common. Writing is a very important aspect of storytelling - especially interactive storytelling, and the difference between even a middling writer and some diversity-hire shitbrain is profound. And they often re-use ideas with no real alteration.
 
Black game artist, that worked on Naughty Dog, Rocksteady and Respawn, complaining about how hard it is to make good looking (black) women in modern games:


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What is the point of hiring an Artist if you won't even use their characters design? Modern game dev is so fucking bloated and filled with redundancy.


Lol, lmao even.
This is what they wanted, this is what they asked for, whether they know it or not.
 
Black game artist, that worked on Naughty Dog, Rocksteady and Respawn, complaining about how hard it is to make good looking (black) women in modern games:


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What is the point of hiring an Artist if you won't even use their characters design? Modern game dev is so fucking bloated and filled with redundancy.


Lol, lmao even.
>Sandnigger flag
>California

To the trash it goes
 
For future reference, when complaining about video games having modern leftist talking points in them, don't complain that it's political, or that video games shouldn't have politics in them or anything like that. You need to be clearer on what it is you take issue with. It's contemporary leftist talking points hamfistedly shoved into video games.

Just saying 'politics' makes you look like a retard.

For instance, the original Star Trek was absolutely political, but that doesn't mean it made statements about how its cool to cut your childrens' dicks off. MGS and Bioshock having political statements in them doesn't mean we should be forced to accept 2024 leftist talking points about trannies and shit.
That's not a bug, it's a feature. It's a classic Motte and Bailey argument. In this case, the bailey is trans shit, American racial politics, and Trump derangement syndrome, and the motte is the ethics of nuclear war and what if objectivism was taken to the extreme*. It's why I cringe when people think playing the idpol game of listing every popular black character in games. They don't care, it's not what they're arguing. A simple, pithy example would work better. Like when feminists say "Kill all men" and someone replies "Even George Flyod?" they have a meltdown.

*Bioshock was a shitty take down of objectivism because the society isn't really objectivist.
 
Black game artist, that worked on Naughty Dog, Rocksteady and Respawn, complaining about how hard it is to make good looking (black) women in modern games:


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What is the point of hiring an Artist if you won't even use their characters design? Modern game dev is so fucking bloated and filled with redundancy.


Lol, lmao even.

They literally do not want to make good looking women period. I don't understand why they're even TRYING to make it about race. Wait. No. I take that back, I do get it, because playing the victim is their go to play. Their own insecurities about what is objectively beautiful have literally nothing to do with race.
 
Black game artist, that worked on Naughty Dog, Rocksteady and Respawn, complaining about how hard it is to make good looking (black) women in modern games:
My favorite part is him going "I don't want to give the gamergaters fuel."

You dumb, slovenly, fucking, nigger.
They literally are doing it to you, but you don't want to admit they're right so you take up your bitch made ass like a good little faggot.
You deserve everything you get and then some.
 
My favorite part is him going "I don't want to give the gamergaters fuel."

You dumb, slovenly, fucking, nigger.
They literally are doing it to you, but you don't want to admit they're right so you take up your bitch made ass like a good little faggot.
You deserve everything you get and then some.
Just like a good little ally.
 
That's not a bug, it's a feature. It's a classic Motte and Bailey argument. In this case, the bailey is trans shit, American racial politics, and Trump derangement syndrome, and the motte is the ethics of nuclear war and what if objectivism was taken to the extreme*. It's why I cringe when people think playing the idpol game of listing every popular black character in games. They don't care, it's not what they're arguing. A simple, pithy example would work better. Like when feminists say "Kill all men" and someone replies "Even George Flyod?" they have a meltdown.

*Bioshock was a shitty take down of objectivism because the society isn't really objectivist.
Is it even a Motte and Bailey? I feel like it's really just a bunch of semantic plays and poorly defined concepts. When these cunts say "everything is political, even Pong and Mario" to people saying "stop pushing political agendas in my game", what they're actually saying is "I know exactly what you're talking about and that it's about a bunch of very specific bullet points related to agendas that are closely related to current real world subjects, but I will try and pretend that it's the same as me trying to paint a political landscape of the silly cartoon videogame universe by looking at its imagery and trying really hard to find what it COULD evoke. I know 1. these are merely aesthetics and visuals rather than explicit, egregious text 2. they're here for an obvious mechanical purpose and/or for entertainment, 3. they could easily paint another landscape, completely different from the one I will push in my schizo interpretation 4. even the political landscape I could paint in my schizophrenic mind about Mario being a monarchy and saving the princess is far too generic to be seen as an actual political commentary. But I'll still try to convince you they're exactly the same!"

I guess technically it might be a Motte and Bailey but I think it's more about them making sure to never spell this out clearly enough so their opponents are hopefully unable to articulate the difference and instead fall back to some wishy washy explanation on their end, maybe say "it's about quality, MGS and Bioshock were good" or something even though quality is another concern that has nothing to do with the original statement (too much political agendas in vidya - you can make the political games good but the original point is that there are too many of them nowadays).
 
Black game artist, that worked on Naughty Dog, Rocksteady and Respawn, complaining about how hard it is to make good looking (black) women in modern games:


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What is the point of hiring an Artist if you won't even use their characters design? Modern game dev is so fucking bloated and filled with redundancy.


Lol, lmao even.
I'll answer that. The main one they hate is conventional attractive women of any kind, and why is three-fold:

1. To not offend troons and frumpy progessive whiners. Both get the sads over not being able to look nice. The entire THEY MUST LOOK LIKE ME narcissism stems from this.
Niantic's infamous fucking-up of Pokemon Go can be directly placed at the feet of this reason.

2. They intentionally emphasize racial traits. It's not enough for a female character to be black, she has to be black and look distinctly like she's African black, even if that means fucking up her design or making her hideous in the process.
This is what brought you Tanya in MKI.

3. They have to make them ugly to reduce the odds of MALE GAZE, even if the character being sexually attractive is, as we say, the fucking point.
There's too many examples of this to mention, find your fucking own.
 
Is it even a Motte and Bailey? I feel like it's really just a bunch of semantic plays and poorly defined concepts.
Motte-and-Bailey is intentional dishonest equivocation between two positions.

I wrote the following before @Judge Dredd posted (at least, the first spoiler), but then I got pulled away, and now I'm back and find I've sort of been scooped. Still, it's a bit more detailed so I'll post it regardless, but it's a sizeable chunk so I'll condense it behind spoilers.

"Everything is political" tends to be a Motte-and-bailey intentional equivocation (that is not unique to the word "politics"). Three definitions of political:
  1. direct real world politics or allegories for it (e.g., a vote Biden ad, or various kill Trump games)
  2. fictional politics (e.g., Star Wars, or Starcraft)
  3. trace cultural influence (e.g., yardwork, or Minecraft)
Fans complain when a work goes from #2 or #3 to having #1 with real world politics (like trans flags): "don't bring politics into my escapist entertainment". That's when "everything is political" gets trotted out as the defense, and it works by equivocating definitions, switching back and forth whenever convenient but never acknowledging they're doing so.

When they advance their politics they use definition #1, but when they defend it from objections they switch to definition #3, and if you agree about #2 ("well yeah, there's fictional politics in Starcraft") then they claim their politics (under #1) is justified.

This is not unique to the word "politics". In a case of "there's nothing new under the sun" Scott Alexander wrote one of his good bits about this (back in 2014, almost a full decade ago) about how this phenomenon happens with "privilege" "mansplaining" and "racism" as well as how that is weaponized (especially "racism"). I also found this follow up where he notes the original source is post-modernism (of course it was post-modernism) and applies it to "God" "Hell" "feminism" and more, which is much shorter and also less robust. Also I used to think less of Scott for not recognizing it as intentional and dishonest equivocation, but re-reading those essays he actually did, dubbing it "strategic equivocation".

As an aside, it's funny that Scott Alexander has that based take on the language manipulation of "strategic equivocation", because he also argued that trans-women are women because categories can mean whatever we want them to mean. And he had this take a mere 18 days later... Though I digress.

Anyway, in summary, "everything is political", when used as a shield, is motte-and-bailey dishonest intentional equivocation that the propagandists use as a tool to manipulate language to define themselves as "correct". A game they play with all sorts of words because they care more for "winning" than truth.

At least, that's how it's used as a strategic shield. It is also used philosophically and ideologically as a weapon.

Feminist Carol Hanisch declared "the personal is political" (pdf) and argued that there were no "personal solutions" for the things she considered problems, thus "personal therapy" could not solve them and what she needed was for the whole country to get "political therapy". She does so with a bit of commie flavoring saying "all women are workers" and that "women, blacks, and workers" need to stop blaming themselves for their sad situations, that "there is only collective action for a collective solution".

As an aside, this is part of why "personal responsibility" is "far right".

This morphed into (or maybe caused) radical feminism's belief that being a housewife is immoral: the personal is political, and your personal decision to live a family life is reinforcing the patriarchy and therefore your actions are hurting women as a whole. As a woman you have a duty to women in general to advance politics through your personal life. This was the end of feminism as "we just want women to be able to choose", though of course feminists still trot that out as their motte when they're equivocating over how feminism is unobjectionable.

This becomes everything is political. If everything is political then everything is advancing some political agenda, and if it isn't their politics then it is different (enemy) politics. So we get to the "if you're not actively for us then you're against us and an enemy". This is a double edged sword. The ideology can wring more out of useful idiots who believe it (who will work longer hours to advance the cause). Also the ideology can galvanize its useful idiots against normies (who aren't actively advancing the politics and are therefore defending evil politics). But in so doing you get that comic where "the left" shoves a guy in the center to "the right" and then gets mad at him for being on the right (which I can't find right now...).

This is also where you get Anita Sarkeesian "everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic, and you have to point it all out." Or maybe not, it's a bit weird to actually say "if it's not homophilic then it's homophobic", though I can recall instances where people seem to truly believe that.

As an aside, there's a bit of irony when self-declared "anti-fascists" end up in the same place as fascists with the statement "all within the state... nothing outside the state." I'm not sure it's really horseshoe theory though, it's more like intentionally lying about the name, like when the most evil government laws have nice fluffy innocuous names.

Anyway, as a philosophical and ideological weapon it's the demand that all of your actions must advance their politics all of the time. It fits perfectly with propaganda, and it's a useful weapon against politics-free escapism. After all, if you aren't advancing their politics then you're advancing evil, and you wouldn't want your escapism to be evil, would you? Propagandists love it because the whole point is to constantly bombard people to make them feel isolated and alone, so they love having a weapon to argue that yes, escapism must advance the politics or it's evil and *must* be "fixed".

It's why we can't have nice things, it's why we have a culture war we don't want, it's why the activists are constantly trying to infiltrate everything, and why once they're there they compulsively try to shit all over everything. Because they are true believers in the ideology and the ideology says everything is political. It's also why grifters latch onto it, because there is a ready group of useful idiots that will give them money to advance the cause, to "do the work" because the goal isn't necessarily to do quality work, it's to make sure there's no escape, you are isolated and alone and only you think this is weird or wrong, you wouldn't be an evil person who is actively advancing evil politics would you?

As for what we do? Eh. Not sure. Think about the difficulties of objecting to trans flags in fictional space empire escapist fantasy games. If you object to politics they point out there are factions and therefore politics which they use to play their "everything is political" equivocation game. If you object to the trans flags they use thought-terminating cliche of "transphobe". If you object to the propaganda invading the escapism, they go back to "trans people aren't political" and claim that shoving real world trans flags into fictional space empires isn't propaganda it's just equitable inclusion and only a bigot could object.

Dishonest language manipulators are going to dishonestly manipulate language...
 
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*An excellent synopsis Jaimas couldn't directly reply to due to the reply bug*

There is a dark side to this that they never pick up on, but is fucking hilarious on the rare occasions it happens.

If you treat people badly long enough, under the argument that you are doing so because it's in the greater good's best interest, some will, inevitably, just give up trying to give a shit about the greater good. Prolonged exposure to the very worst of online discourse from the self-evidently least-honest people on the entire fucking internet will inevitably convince people that their self-appointed moral betters are anything but.

And anyone who's endured 2016 knows exactly what the fuck I'm talking about with how many dejected democrats said "fuck it" and are now staunch Donald supporters.

Being continually harassed by self-appointed morality enforcers, and treated to demonization attempts and assumptive behavior will eventually get anyone to the point where they do not give a solitary fuck about what is or is not an -ism or -phobia. Some will eventually get to the point where they'll just accept it, fuck it, drop all the gamer words you want and become exactly as evil as the shitheads say you're going to be. It's not like they'll ever be convinced of otherwise - people still unironically call Jontron and PewDiePie fucking Nazis, while glossing over their own side having had a sex pest uncloak for the umpteenth time. They can see how this fucking works, and the cynical ones will do the obvious: "....Suddenly, for no reason...."

What's really funny though is that younger people see through it much faster. And because of that, they learn to hate it that much harder. They just wanna have fun and do things with their friends like any other group of kids, but when they see this propagandist shit, they know it's a load of fuck and they react exactly like someone from the Farms might.

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It's been deleted, but a poster did, in fact, call him exactly what you think he did before he was forced to delete it.
 
2. They intentionally emphasize racial traits. It's not enough for a female character to be black, she has to be black and look distinctly like she's African black, even if that means fucking up her design or making her hideous in the process.

And not just racial traits of black women. Asian women too, Western game devs overly racially emphasize her slanty eyes so much, she looks like she's from an anti-Japanese propaganda poster.
 
For future reference, when complaining about video games having modern leftist talking points in them, don't complain that it's political, or that video games shouldn't have politics in them or anything like that. You need to be clearer on what it is you take issue with. It's contemporary leftist talking points hamfistedly shoved into video games.

Just saying 'politics' makes you look like a retard.

For instance, the original Star Trek was absolutely political, but that doesn't mean it made statements about how its cool to cut your childrens' dicks off. MGS and Bioshock having political statements in them doesn't mean we should be forced to accept 2024 leftist talking points about trannies and shit.
People very rarely just say "politics", that's largely just a strawman held up to avoid addressing specific criticisms
 
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