Generation Z, "Ironic" Degeneracy, Sadism, and Discord - Not a fun thread

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Yes, but it isn't as if a kid could just go to their local Blockbuster/its UK equivalent and buy Watership Dawn. Kids that are of PG age were almost never left to their own devices with content that could cause them harm, as well as the parents being present most of the times that their kids saw such content, and most adult TV channels being inaccessible unless you paid for them, and also with parental controls being decently good
They couldn't buy it but they could watch it on TV. There were plenty of kids movies with fucked up scenes in them or movies turned into kids TV shows. Ninja Turtles ends with a man being dumped into a garbage truck and crushed. That's pretty fucked up.
 
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They couldn't buy it but they could watch it on TV. There were plenty of kids movies with fucked up scenes in them or movies turned into kids TV shows. Ninja Turtles ends with a man being dumped into a garbage truck and crushed. That's pretty fucked up.
Yes, but it is not as graphic as what can be found on Youtube or the larger internet. And also those were a handful of scenes in some media, if you wanted to have more of that you either watched that scene on repeat or were (un)lucky enough to have another movie/show with that type of content, with the internet you are fed more of those scenes the more you watch them, it's literally an almost involuntary feedback loop that kids get trapped into, and one that contains an unlimited amount of new content
 
I swear this era is going to be studied as an example of how not to raise children if human civilization survives the next century.
This "The world is ending zomg" mentality is stupid. Since the time of Christopher Columbus people have thought the world was about to end. The 1950s-1990s were an unusually peaceful and prosperous period of history, and the time we're in now is what life was typically like in previous eras. We have climate change, which is a really big issue, but in the past we've also had really bad weather events like the dust bowl and mini ice ages. The elites may be gauging prices and making it impossible to rent an apartment without 2 side hustles and a roommate, but that's what life has always been like if you're not ultra-privileged, and at least now you have media consoomption to look forward to even if you're super poor. It may be impossible to say what you want without getting cancelled or banned for it, but that's always been the case except for a few years in the 90s and 2000s, and at least the state isn't forcing you to practice a religion against your will. Every generation has its challenges, and it's almost laughable that zoomers' biggest challenges are screen addiction, gooning, and a short lockdown rather than having to live in the Tube and having no steady employment or education because your city is being attacked.
It all boils down to the same shit where dedicated thread followers try to goad eccentric people into being the next Chris-Chan.
Zoomers do the "next Chris Chan" thing because they see the CWCki pages about trolls and the CWC video essays and think it's a way to become famous.
The farms has it's fair share of predators and sex pests. You're going to disagree on this but the forum has an active vtuber thread and all vtuber fans are whacking it to grown women pretending to be children. The lolicons aren't shunned as much as they should be.
KF also has a "Porn and Porncows" thread full of coomers talking about porn and pornstars like they're movies and celebrities, under the guise of discussing lolcows in the porn industry. I'm surprised Null hasn't deleted those threads.
 
Yes, but it is not as graphic as what can be found on Youtube or the larger internet. And also those were a handful of scenes in some media, if you wanted to have more of that you either watched that scene on repeat or were (un)lucky enough to have another movie/show with that type of content, with the internet you are fed more of those scenes the more you watch them, it's literally an almost involuntary feedback loop that kids get trapped into, and one that contains an unlimited amount of new content
Go watch Gremlins. They put little green monsters in blenders, microwave them and a guy gets run down by a snow plow and it was very popular with kids in the 80s and 90s. Kids youtube isn't up there with family horror from 40 years ago.
This "The world is ending zomg" mentality is stupid. Since the time of Christopher Columbus people have thought the world was about to end. The 1950s-1990s were an unusually peaceful and prosperous period of history, and the time we're in now is what life was typically like in previous eras. We have climate change, which is a really big issue, but in the past we've also had really bad weather events like the dust bowl and mini ice ages. The elites may be gauging prices and making it impossible to rent an apartment without 2 side hustles and a roommate, but that's what life has always been like if you're not ultra-privileged, and at least now you have media consoomption to look forward to even if you're super poor. It may be impossible to say what you want without getting cancelled or banned for it, but that's always been the case except for a few years in the 90s and 2000s, and at least the state isn't forcing you to practice a religion against your will. Every generation has its challenges, and it's almost laughable that zoomers' biggest challenges are screen addiction, gooning, and a short lockdown rather than having to live in the Tube and having no steady employment or education because your city is being attacked.
"Everyone has always said the world is ending so there's nothing wrong now" mixed with "Climate change is going to kill us all!" despite us hearing the same bullshit over and over is a weird lefty ironic mentality you have there.

Things are different now because the safety net of social interaction is no longer there. Little Timmy the psycho used to be recognised and socialised in a direction that made him grow out of it. You didn't want a village psycho so you dealt with him and invested the time into him. Today most kids lack any real parental control or teaching, most of them lack fathers who are especially important to pulling bad kids back in line. Zoomers are going to be generation psychopath where they all want to be famous at any cost and that is like nothing we've seen before.

You haven't always had to work 3 jobs to afford to rent a room in a house with 6 other people. This is not normal and you're fucked if you think it is. We're so far away from normal people like you are trying to justify killing yourself to get basic shelter because every decent country on Earth has a noose round it's neck through millions of niggers filling every possible inch and demanding to be paid for existing.
KF also has a "Porn and Porncows" thread full of coomers talking about porn and pornstars like they're movies and celebrities, under the guise of discussing lolcows in the porn industry. I'm surprised Null hasn't deleted those threads.
They're the only threads he reads any more. And ways to get into internet fights with Ralph but that's so common it's background noise. It's not Kiwi farms if there's not 5 different Ralph related stickies.
 
Honestly the biggest issue I see in all of this is the fact that basically every tech company is just letting it happen.

CSAM spam is so easy to stop at the ISP level, let alone at the server level. There are entire FBI databases with all the identifiers for all the CSAM they’ve encountered.

While new stuff would get through anything previously documented as CSAM material would be stopped. Discord just used this tech recently, so it’s not like they don’t have it.

At best they just don’t care bc money is money, at worse they are 100% sick fucks who think it’s a-ok.
 
Honestly the biggest issue I see in all of this is the fact that basically every tech company is just letting it happen.

CSAM spam is so easy to stop at the ISP level, let alone at the server level. There are entire FBI databases with all the identifiers for all the CSAM they’ve encountered.

While new stuff would get through anything previously documented as CSAM material would be stopped. Discord just used this tech recently, so it’s not like they don’t have it.

At best they just don’t care bc money is money, at worse they are 100% sick fucks who think it’s a-ok.
You just said they do try and stop it but it's an impossible task. Every day new stuff is made and shared on an industrial scale. CSAM isn't just 1 guy in his basement reuploading this stuff. It's child trafficking, international sex tourists taking pictures, kids with ipads meeting strange men on the internet. There are thousands of images and videos made every single day and the people making them are using ways to stay hidden. Either no one knows a discord or telegram channel exists sharing this or the link is spread out through youtube videos so it's hard for automation to place it together. A link to huggywuggy.com sending you to a password screen and an unlisted youtube video giving you the password isn't going to trigger any automated system. The password will be in the background hard to notice and then when put together you get all the sick stuff on a privately hosted web server in a lawless country.
 
Yes, but it isn't as if a kid could just go to their local Blockbuster/its UK equivalent and buy Watership Down. Kids that are of PG age were almost never left to their own devices with content that could cause them harm, as well as the parents being present most of the times that their kids saw such content, and most adult TV channels being inaccessible unless you paid for them, and also with parental controls being decently good. With a phone it is almost a 180, you can access a lot of porn sites without even needing to click the "I'm 18" button, they just assume that you are 18 by the simple fact that you are there.
I remember when the internet was starting and there was this fearmongering among adults about all the porn there. In reality there was next to zero because even with a 56k modem loading pics took forever, and video? what's that?. In reality what little there was was very mild, you saw way worse on HBO, most porn sites were just an online storefront to buy porn mags and videos, and you needed a credit card so good luck. Back then if you wanted to see boobs your best chance was some PG-13 movie.
I have seen people on Youtube with pornographic pfps commenting on music and history video
Like actual porn or cropped?
Ninja Turtles ends with a man being dumped into a garbage truck and crushed. That's pretty fucked up.
It was the most fake looking plastic shit, kids nowadays are watching funkytown...
 
This thread reminds me when footists were shilling themselves during Kuz era. I checked out clay party, and I sincerely thought it was a kiwifarms splinter - something similar to the Jarty. Pretty sure this is how most kids get roped into these groups. They just think it's good hearted fun, until they start posting messed up stuff and getting blackmailed by the other members.
 
until they start posting messed up stuff
not necessarily just messed up stuff, due to their piss poor opsec, these kids most likely just give away their own location because they use the same nickname/mail/nick+pass combo everywhere, or even they posting their own selfies or genitalia pics.

Same can be also observed these days in the farms with the influx of newfags such as this brony
 
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Hello, this is Kanzar sarsain, I am apart of the UKK and I would love to give you some insight of this community, you can contact me on discord at “1987.bad”
The page isn't phenomenal, there's a lot of clutter and advertising because fandomfags often crosspost and copy/paste from other wikis.
But it definitely does give insight. I think looking at this whole thing from an "aesthetic" standpoint may help us uncover more about these groups and how they are created/grow popular. Perspective is everything
 
They couldn't buy it but they could watch it on TV. There were plenty of kids movies with fucked up scenes in them or movies turned into kids TV shows. Ninja Turtles ends with a man being dumped into a garbage truck and crushed. That's pretty fucked up.
I agree that passive media doesn't have much effect on kids. I've never bought into the "violent video games makes kids violent" narrative when it was Jack Thompson saying that for attention in the 90s, and I don't believe it now. However, the Internet, and the iPhone/'cord bastardized version of the Internet that nihilist burnout zoomyzooms use is a completely different ballgame. They aren't just passively engaging in violent media. They are bunkering themselves in Discord servers spending all their free time engaging in extremely cringe gooning seshes to violence, CP, zoosadism and any other gross shit you can think of. It goes from just shitposting about it, to ERP. From ERP, to actively seeking out targets that are vulnerable so they can exploit them for their deranged amusement. I'm not sure how you don't see that's a false equivalence, but in another post you're niggersperging and doomposting so I'm assuming you're out of touch and don't actually know what's going on.

This shit, is fucking disgusting. This isn't little Timmy watching Friday the 13th when he's 10, these are grooming victims becoming groomers, engaging in the worst perversions known to man because their lives are meaningless. They have no hope, nothing to look up toward, no parental guidance. They're convinced they're losers, because they are. So they want to bring everyone down with them. I don't know what can be done about this, but if there's some semblance of good news for people like me in their 30s and older gawking at how badly we've fumbled raising the next generation, they're also really fucking stupid, and get caught being retarded nihilist edgelords who think they're worshipping Tranny Satan or dark angels, or other gay insane bullshit. See here, here, here, here, and here. Obviously prison isn't good enough for scum like them, they just need to be shot and thrown in a ditch and forgotten about if we lived in a perfect world. But, by the very fact that insane faggots like these do exist, we do not live in a perfect world.
 
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Happy Tree Friends
Funny you should mention this. >_>

Powerleveling because it's relevant and I have a feeling that if I told any of this to some mental health professional, I'd be commited for the third time before the age of 20 for sure. Be my therapists, and learn from my example.

So, as a young child, I watched HTF. I know, it's odd for a child of the time to have been so easily drawn in by it, but I was. Before I get into it, I'd like to mention that it isn't hard at all to get to degeneracy on the internet. Kind of stating the obvious, but consider for a sec the idiotic flash games such as Can Your Pet. I remember I cried slumped over on a chair "nooooo not the hecking chick :(((~~~" and even told mom about it. Even though I hadn't interacted with chatrooms/forums at that point. Didn't have to speak to anyone else to be EPId by cartoons, too. Not a great idea for a child so young, but I was raised by a single mother who didn't care much for internet safety, she'd only worry about it once I became a teen. But of course, by then it was far too late. And that's that.

About HTF, I remember shipping Flippy x Flaky myself. Can't remember why. I reckon I also selfinserted as Flippy without realizing it, I'm not best known for being a stable genius anyway. I reckon that at that point children aren't sensitive to gore or cartoon gore, hence they become more "receptive" to it. But I know for certain at that point that I was more receptive to gore than other children, and the only reason I watched it was because I wanted to know what happened next. The animation is so good and it draws you in, especially the music. And of course, I would often see the fanart people had of it. The ones of cute characters doing the nastiest things to each other, or just the characters being shipped together by people of the time. I didn't know what shipping was until I had been introduced to it by someone else. It was so natural for me to ship characters at that point, I didn't know I was weird or anything for liking that. (Holy crap I'm remembering as I type and I'm genuinely having my heartstrings tugged.) But yeah, at that point, I had a very distorted view of what "shipping" was. I thought it was cute, even, to see an animated squirrel's optic nerves being torn out. It was just part of the world I was in and it was part of the cartoon. I was a kid, I knew nothing. Dunno if getting into more details is gonna help us much.

The point is this: When I look at this thread and the thread on soyjak.party, I can't help but reflect on what I COULD have become. I was just a step away... from degeneracy. I could have been an otaku, but I'm not. I could have been on the path to trooning, but I'm not. Now that I mention it, I had troony thoughts as a kid. That's an overstatement though, I simply wished I could be around girls more and concluded that "life would be easier if I were born female". It never went beyond that. But we can all see how vulnerable I was. I think it's easy for me to go down the spiral and I have to have strong will power to not do it, but I feel better with this forum than most other discussions I've seen on the matter. I can see it. I can feel it. I've been there. And I'm not a good person for it, I really am not.

Anyway, maybe someone will like the insight.
 
Larpercore Wiki this wiki site has a lot of interesting information on UTTP, Foodists, and such. This seems to be part of a much much larger rabbit hole, I think it is worth investigating.
Cross-posting this from the Foodist thread. This seems to hit the nail on the head for the groups I have been talking about in this thread. Seems some autism chad has already done quite a lot of work investigating and documenting these people by their symbology.

If this article is to be believed (and I suggest someone with autism go through the sources and descriptions to verify this), it corroborates other behavior I've suggested:
  • These groups are largely comprised of sadistic underage zoomers
  • These groups target marginalized and cringe groups: the mentally unwell, homosexuals, furries, etc
  • These groups idolize sadistic behavior and "edginess"
  • These groups are fragmented, but connected to each other and have an underground, but largely undocumented set of relations with each other
  • These groups work by a pyramid structure often recruiting low ranking people to do the bidding of upper level people
  • Different groups have different levels of edge toleration, with some just doing shock content and others doing actual terrorism
Furthermore, this article details a "Class system" used by those internal to these groups that basically denotes how edgy someone is. Higher the class, higher the edge. The highest classes are actual terror groups like 764. It seems that there is an edge pecking order amongst these people. If higher rank in the pecking order implies a level of prestige, then that means that these groups are self-filtering for criminality.

This article, if its contents are to be believed seems to be the ace in the hole to prove that this is a real phenomenon that's not only been documented, but also has a name and specific aesthetic behind it, meaning that my search into symbolism was a good tactic to finding these groups. @Sprate Header, I suggest you look into either changing this article in light of this information to hone in more on these groups as a topic, or start a new one with more of a focus on these groups.
 
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