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People always talk about "even after/if they lose all the weight they are often still disfigured" and I thought this was a great video example of that.
Guy was on M600PL and lost the weight and is now "normal human" size, but both his legs have obvious swelling issues, with one being much worse than the other. It is very obvious that it's swelling and not just fat.

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Lymph = fluid, Lipo = fat
(They often go hand in hand though, especially in more extreme cases)


This guy has mostly a lymph issue.

You definitely can get lymph issues from other things, cancer/cancer treatments come to mind. Lymphedema in the arms after breast cancer treatments etc.

Heart/organ failure can also do this... you'll see sick old people with really upsetting looking limbs that literally ooze fluid...

But it's not the same as obesity.... obese people, you can see it in their faces, their necks, and ofc you can tell diet-wise....
 
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Potatis Salad said:
A few selections from a HAES parenting group on FB. This is some of the worst HAES shit I've ever seen, these poor parents are totally convinced that telling little Janie she can't have a ninth Toaster Strudel will instantly cause fatal anorexia.
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This is truly one of the most horrifying, disturbing things I have ever seen on the Internet.

I demand more!
 
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cybercybe said:
Her makeup is "a screw". She told her SIL she could claim her as another child. Her necklace looks like it's choking her underneath her neck fat.

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Why is her bib taped to her chest? Her apartment looks like a disgusting mess. If she's not walking, she can't possibly have room to wheel around.
 
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Jizzrag said:
This might not fit the thread but it was on r/PlusSize and funny. Don’t know where else to put it.

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First time asking a guy out! Here’s the plan :)
First time asking a guy out! Here’s the plan :)

First he’ll get in the car and he’ll follow the little hearts until he finds the axolotl :) then I’ll tell him to check the back seat where he will find a basket of snacks! Cotton candy, chocolate, bubble gum, orange juice. (and other stuff) I also bought him with $40 Jett puff protein powder he’s been talking about :)))

I can’t wait to see his reaction. I really wanted to make him feel special.
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>This isn't the first time this happened to me
 
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HAES parents: "Noooooo BMI is bullshit noooooooo how dare my pediatrician tell me that my child's BMI is in the obese range who wants to scream into the void with me about how much we HATE BMI!!!"
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Also HAES parents (in the exact same Facebook group): "My child is 'falling off his curve', wat do?"
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Hi all! We’re pretty relaxed about food at home, I don’t force my 6 yr old son to try things and we have options he usually likes. BUT, he is “underweight.” He’s growing taller, but not gaining weight, so the pediatrician is worried he’s falling off his curve. He’s always been on the lower end of the weight charts, which I expected because his dad was like that as a child, but the fact that he’s not gaining much at all while getting taller is not ideal.
I try giving him things like avocado etc but he’s pretty picky and won’t always eat it or eat a lot of it. The proteins he’ll eat without fail are salami and tofu. Other things are hit or miss (fish, steak, chicken) and he won’t do beans or eggs. He’ll drink smoothie in the morning, so we try to add more yogurt and flax etc. For a while I was serving ice cream every night but it started to be all he would eat, and I don’t want him to expect it every night.
Any suggestions for how to help him catch up to his curve?

Cool cool cool. "The fact that he's gaining weight while not getting much taller is not ideal." Surely these anti-BMI crusaders will have plenty of advice for OP regarding the well-known fact that the relationship between heigh and weight is utterly meaningless and fatphobic.

Nope!

"Constant snacking is my recommendation...try to bulk him up as much as possible."
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"Ensure milkshake." (Ensure is a liquid nutritional supplement most often used for elderly medical patients who are malnourished due to poor appetite...which this kid is not, I guarantee it.)
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Why not pour oil on his food? (Note: this person does not appear to understand percentiles, but if her child really was as underweight as she claims, s/he did need nutritional supplementation. OP's child who "might fall off his curve" is fine.)
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According to this group, BMI means nothing, pediatric beetus is fatphobic, any kind of limit on snacking will harm children, and no food is healthier than any other. But at the slightest intimation that a kid might be thin, break out the heavy cream!
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Potatis Salad said:
According to this group, BMI means nothing, pediatric beetus is fatphobic, any kind of limit on snacking will harm children, and no food is healthier than any other. But at the slightest intimation that a kid might be thin, break out the heavy cream!
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Kids are often picky, but dropping off the curve downwards at that age and that being sustained rather than just a blip for illness or a growth spurt can be serious and SHOULD trigger investigation. Boys tend to grow up then out (girls tend the other way, they mainly put a little weight on then grow upwards.) but dropping a significant amount SHOULD trigger some basic tests because non intentional weight loss can be a sign of some pretty nasty stuff.
So can growth slowing, the growth curves exist for a reason. If a kid is scrawny from the get go they don’t bat an eyelid, as long as the ‘follow their curve.’
BMI works fine when combined with the mark one eyeball. Kid is just built like a sparrow? No problem. Kid is one of those mini linebackers but healthy and energetic? Also no problem.
And for adults they act like it’s wildly inaccurate but it’s fine. People who fall into a different category due to muscle are visibly in that category for that reaosn and only just into that category. No doctor is going to see a rugby player built like a brick shithouse and say yeah lose weight.
If your BMI is forty, you’re unhealthy. Nobody healthy is creeping into class three obesity BMIs. Maybe they’ll be a pound or two into ‘overweight’
 
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cybercybe said:
A real-life Violet Beauregarde. Pretty sure we know who ate the last Timbit.

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I wish she had gotten a chance to get a picture with the woman playing Tina Turner. It'd be like an illustration of Jack Sprat and his wife.

"There was a piñata...enough said."
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"Handmade Irish espresso martinis...what?!"
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Christ almighty I wish I could be this awestruck by a cocktail and a papier mache donkey.
 
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Otterly said:
Kids are often picky, but dropping off the curve downwards at that age and that being sustained rather than just a blip for illness or a growth spurt can be serious and SHOULD trigger investigation. Boys tend to grow up then out (girls tend the other way, they mainly put a little weight on then grow upwards.) but dropping a significant amount SHOULD trigger some basic tests because non intentional weight loss can be a sign of some pretty nasty stuff.
So can growth slowing, the growth curves exist for a reason. If a kid is scrawny from the get go they don’t bat an eyelid, as long as the ‘follow their curve.’
BMI works fine when combined with the mark one eyeball. Kid is just built like a sparrow? No problem. Kid is one of those mini linebackers but healthy and energetic? Also no problem.
And for adults they act like it’s wildly inaccurate but it’s fine. People who fall into a different category due to muscle are visibly in that category for that reaosn and only just into that category. No doctor is going to see a rugby player built like a brick shithouse and say yeah lose weight.
If your BMI is forty, you’re unhealthy. Nobody healthy is creeping into class three obesity BMIs. Maybe they’ll be a pound or two into ‘overweight’
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Thanks for the informative correction, seems like this mom (unlike others in the group) is listening to her pediatrician who is monitoring the kid, hopefully the appointment where he failed to gain enough weight was just a blip.

Interestingly, as a response to the very same post, there's an example of a kid who went from 90th percentile to 8th percentile and stayed there, basically exactly the kind of case you're talking about. The mom says that any comment on this state of affairs of her child would be "unacceptable."
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My very slim 9yo dropped off his curve, significantly, he was 90th + percentile for the first 3 years, he's now 8th percentile I'm (sometimes) concerned but, to me, it's the same as being told that they're too fat. Unacceptable. Some kids are just.....slim. They don't always grow like they're supposed to, he tends to drop weight just before a growth spurt (unlike his peers). His dad is tall and skinny and I'm tallish and slim(ish) so, it's not terribly shocking that my very, very active kid, is very slim. I just make sure that they have a well rounded diet. Lots of fats, proteins and carbs. He's getting picky, so THAT concerns me, in relation to his weight but his weight itself, is what it is.
Even if this kid's failure to gain weight is directly linked to a serious underlying health condition, it's going to be a fraught, uphill battle to get his mother to listen to the pediatrician about it because she's so brainwashed by HAES dogma.
 
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