Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

Am I the only person whose first thought at hearing the word "minstrel" is always a medieval guy playing a lute? That's the only use of the term I'd heard all my life before learning any USA history, but has it come to mean "blackface show", and only "blackface show", worldwide and I'm just a shut-in?
 
Am I the only person whose first thought at hearing the word "minstrel" is always a medieval guy playing a lute? That's the only use of the term I'd heard all my life before learning any USA history, but has it come to mean "blackface show", and only "blackface show", worldwide and I'm just a shut-in?
There was the black and white minstrel show that ran between the 50s and 70s in the UK. But we do have the minstrel sweets so it's not exclusively that it. I think people make a point of saying wandering minstrel for the medieval one now and minstrel show for the blackface. Or I think you hear the word troubador for lute minstrels more now.
 
Seeing the current state of the Cartoon Industry makes me wonder if 12 oz Mouse was ahead of its time.

Shitty character design, meandering plot, non-sequitir humor. And it's currently a guilty pleasure of mine.

Is 12 oz Mouse better than most of the 2D cartoons out today? Or was it the progenitor of things to come?

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When was there ever a correlation between Minstrel shows and Animation...
I've heard people making these claims for a while now. Supposedly, the white gloves that Mickey Mouse wears and his white face/black fur is a reference to blackface minstrel shows.

There is an entire genre of cartoon that deals with racist depictions of blacks (the censored 11 from warner bros being among the more infamous examples) but I've noticed it never goes past blacks. The whole "we gotta clean up cartoons" thing started in the 60s.

Apparently, having a cartoon wherein a black hunter is outsmarted by Bugs Bunny, much like Elmer Fudd, is horrible, but racist jokes about every other skin tone/nationality is perfectly fine.
 
I've heard people making these claims for a while now. Supposedly, the white gloves that Mickey Mouse wears and his white face/black fur is a reference to blackface minstrel shows.

There is an entire genre of cartoon that deals with racist depictions of blacks (the censored 11 from warner bros being among the more infamous examples) but I've noticed it never goes past blacks. The whole "we gotta clean up cartoons" thing started in the 60s.

Apparently, having a cartoon wherein a black hunter is outsmarted by Bugs Bunny, much like Elmer Fudd, is horrible, but racist jokes about every other skin tone/nationality is perfectly fine.
Famously they tried to pull Speedy Gonzales for being to wacists against Mexicans, but the beaners demanded he stay. Turns out most people have a sense of humor about that sort of shit, it's just niggers and pajeets who get uppity.
 
Famously they tried to pull Speedy Gonzales for being to wacists against Mexicans, but the beaners demanded he stay. Turns out most people have a sense of humor about that sort of shit, it's just niggers and pajeets who get uppity.
And Jews. Especially Jews. Don't forget the three little pigs with the wolf getting depicted as a wandering Jew:

 
I was stuck in a hotel room with live TV and the kids were watching the Disney channel in the background to whatever else they were doing. We don't watch this kind of thing at home. Anyway, I noticed that even in cartoons that are supposed to be action packed, there's just way too much ruminating on one's internal feelings and also thinking about what the other characters might be ruminating on. And of course there's a bunch of racial pandering.
But what strikes me the most causes me to assume that the girls writing Harry Potter mpreg on Live Journal in the early aughts are now all grown up and bringing their dull internal monologuing to children's cartoons. I'd follow the fan fiction thread but after my tenure of reading bad fan fiction for shits and giggles, it's just so boring. I can't imagine too many people are entertained by this crap.
 
Yep. Nothing to do with contrast against his body or the fact his gloves were originally yellow like the WW2 Japanese internment camps.
Exactly on the contrast point. All old character designs were like that, but most don't look at the oldest of old when it comes to animation.

I do find it odd Disney tends to try and bury any of their problematic materials, whereas Warner just flat out made a public apology and pulled stuff.

By pulling the "worst offenders" they instead made a market for the cartoons in question. I literally have a bootleg tape with the Island of Pingo Pongo on it (an old cartoon making fun of old travel advertisements), and i know that all other banned cartoons are happily still in circulation.

Disney also made a market of "rare cartoons" by not distributing stuff. Hell, look at the general popularity of Song of the South, it even had a ride at Disneyland up until recently.
 
But what strikes me the most causes me to assume that the girls writing Harry Potter mpreg on Live Journal in the early aughts are now all grown up and bringing their dull internal monologuing to children's cartoons.
And the worst part is they were definitely part of the 90% and never got better.
 
I do find it odd Disney tends to try and bury any of their problematic materials, whereas Warner just flat out made a public apology and pulled stuff.
Walt actually mentioned dedication to "the hard facts" that have created America in his park opening speech. Not the biggest example of nu Disney going against his ideals for the company, but it's something.



Edit to avoid double-posting: Between fanfiction writers, and the coomers/manchildren who want to sneak stupid shit into their cartoons, I'm not confident that American animation will ever be as respected as it was in the '20's-'40's.
 
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