Mega Rad Gun Thread

Never seen M855a1 for sale as a lowly civilian so I would assume it's prohibitively expensive for the average AR owner.
Because its not sold commercially. Only way to get it is from grey market sources or from mil dudes who where issued some but never fired it. Not too hard to find it in limited quantities at $1+ per round.

With that said just like M855, unless you are shooting people behind light barriers, M193 performs better at stopping people. Neither are penetrating steel plates of lvl4 body armor any better than M193 will.
 
Because its not sold commercially. Only way to get it is from grey market sources or from mil dudes who where issued some but never fired it. Not too hard to find it in limited quantities at $1+ per round.

With that said just like M855, unless you are shooting people behind light barriers, M193 performs better at stopping people. Neither are penetrating steel plates of lvl4 body armor any better than M193 will.
I figured the gray market is the only way to get it. Some guy I went to high school with joined the army and ended up deployed in Somalia. Some dude I knew called him at a party and among other things, he said he brought back a few mags full of AP ammo. God knows what other stuff falls off the back of a truck and into civilian hands.
 
Don't worry. I'm not retarded enough to try and run 5.56 ammo through a gun chambered in .223.

I guess M193 is proof that sometimes simplicity is better. Never seen M855a1 for sale as a lowly civilian so I would assume it's prohibitively expensive for the average AR owner.
It's not so much ignorance as accident that I'd worry about with 5.56/.223 getting interchanged. But I've gotta say, I haven't seen a modern production AR in .223...shit, I don't know if I've ever seen one. I typically only see modern rifles chambered for .223 if they're bolt guns.

As for some M855A1 for sale: Here you go. Cheaper than I've seen it at War Pig Armory, which tends to have it in stock most often. WPA also carries M80A1 and actual MK262. The CPR of those A1 rounds is enough that unless you're damn rich or you're actually planning on engaging military/paramilitary people in the near future, I can't see the point of buy any significant quantities.
 
It's not so much ignorance as accident that I'd worry about with 5.56/.223 getting interchanged. But I've gotta say, I haven't seen a modern production AR in .223...shit, I don't know if I've ever seen one. I typically only see modern rifles chambered for .223 if they're bolt guns.

As for some M855A1 for sale: Here you go. Cheaper than I've seen it at War Pig Armory, which tends to have it in stock most often. WPA also carries M80A1 and actual MK262. The CPR of those A1 rounds is enough that unless you're damn rich or you're actually planning on engaging military/paramilitary people in the near future, I can't see the point of buy any significant quantities.
Yeah same here. The only semi autos I've ever seen chambered in .223 only are old ass Mini 14's made when Bill Ruger was still alive and talking about how you don't neeeeed a 20 round mag.

And $2 a round for M855a1? Shit, at that point you might as well get an AR10 or whatever battle rifle you prefer and run with that. The ammo would be cheaper and have roughly the same penetration power.
 
God knows what other stuff falls off the back of a truck and into civilian hands.
Im sure theres some people that due to their positions/connections where able to acquire genuinely exotic things but 99% of people arent taking anything of note home.

Anything serialized is an absolute nonstarter as the second a pair of NVGs/firearm/optic etc. goes missing everything shuts down and every swinging dick is online looking for it, no exaggeration. And if by some miracle you did get to sale a serialized piece of gear, ncis/cid will be working to track it down. Endless examples of someone buying an optic off a mil dude or off cl only to eventually get a visit from the feds.

Unserialized gear? Thats a free for all depending on whose in charge. Ive seen people walk away with MOPP suits, vests with full set of SAPI plates, dozens of mags etc. The most hilarious thing I saw was a guy who acquired a genuine fired 155mm artilery round. Very easy for supply types to walk away with rando gear as theyre the ones who actually account for the stuff. Very common and pre/post deployment as so much gear is flowing around.
 
Im sure theres some people that due to their positions/connections where able to acquire genuinely exotic things but 99% of people arent taking anything of note home.

Anything serialized is an absolute nonstarter as the second a pair of NVGs/firearm/optic etc. goes missing everything shuts down and every swinging dick is online looking for it, no exaggeration. And if by some miracle you did get to sale a serialized piece of gear, ncis/cid will be working to track it down. Endless examples of someone buying an optic off a mil dude or off cl only to eventually get a visit from the feds.

Unserialized gear? Thats a free for all depending on whose in charge. Ive seen people walk away with MOPP suits, vests with full set of SAPI plates, dozens of mags etc. The most hilarious thing I saw was a guy who acquired a genuine fired 155mm artilery round. Very easy for supply types to walk away with rando gear as theyre the ones who actually account for the stuff. Very common and pre/post deployment as so much gear is flowing around.
It always makes me laugh when people say "the only people who should be allowed assault rifles and large capacity magazines are soldiers and police". Good luck keeping 30 round mags out of circulation because those are damn near impossible to keep track of.

The more advanced stuff is closely guarded because it costs more taxpayer dollars, I'll give you that.
 
Well, boys. I was swimming at the mother in law's with the missus. Came back at dark. As we're walking down the road, we hear our chickens start squawking a storm. I run up with my pistol but no flashlight. Only thing I had was the BUL and my swim trunks. So I saw the shape slink off, didn't want to risk shooting it since I couldn't ID it. Glad I didn't shoot the second shape, was two of the girls on top of one another by the fence.
We got em in January, they just started laying last month.
It was a big fucking coon, about 30 pounds. They're normally nice enough, I've seen him around, been letting him eat our leftovers and garbage and was content with that.
She's okay, he had just grabbed her. She might lose an eye, we're gonna call her Od-hen.
I'm gonna go out tomorrow to find him, he usually slinks under my Cadillac during the day. I'll let you all know how effective .22 Mag is against a coon, and I'll let you all know how the pelt turns out when the missus finishes with it.
I regret not bringing my flashlight. So I guess I'm gonna try to find the most low profile pistol light I can so that doesn't happen again.
 
low profile pistol light
surefire xc-a or TLR-7 on the used market. the emitter is replaceable and batteries are specialized, but you can buy them easily enough. both are water resistant to reasonable depth and exposure and at least the xc-a is very durable to drops and et c. skip the xc-1, it's not reliable imho. the TLR-7 is larger but uses a CR123A cell instead of a custom Lithium Polymer battery.

if you don't care about battery compatibility, the CR2 battery is used on decent options from crimson trace and viridian weapon technologies which aren't very bright but for "around the yard" pest control should be fine enough.
 
genuine fired 155mm artilery round
I've got a ton of spent casings with the biggest being a 105mm, but everyone who flew on gunships got one when they were separating or leaving the unit. You hit the nail on the head though, supply guys are your best friends if you want cool stuff to go home with. As long as it isn't on an equipment account or a repair cycle part then it's good to go as long as you don't make TOO much of that item disappear. We had a box full of USGI and gen 2 PMAGS in our armory that they never did inventory on which was really nice and I wish I still had access to.
 
1719065628393.png
There is a lot going on here. Carry handle mount bros vindicated, I guess.

:story:
 
surefire xc-a or TLR-7 on the used market. the emitter is replaceable and batteries are specialized, but you can buy them easily enough. both are water resistant to reasonable depth and exposure and at least the xc-a is very durable to drops and et c. skip the xc-1, it's not reliable imho. the TLR-7 is larger but uses a CR123A cell instead of a custom Lithium Polymer battery.

if you don't care about battery compatibility, the CR2 battery is used on decent options from crimson trace and viridian weapon technologies which aren't very bright but for "around the yard" pest control should be fine enough.
TLR-7x s are under $150 at the moment. You can get the USB rechargeable CR123 if you don't want to feed it CR123s

Edit: I kinda wish I got the 7xl, because it has a brighter emitter. I guess I could always buy the upgrade parts, but the regular 7x is good enough for house duty.
 
Last edited:
I'm seriously considering a Beretta 1301, it's gonna be the Mod 1 because if I even dare to think about the Mod 2 I may as well go full retard and get an M4 with that chunk of change. Also I heard they might be discontinuing the marine finish with bias towards FDE/OD Green production.
I don't feel a need to get the extended tube, but I'm thinking a heatshield may be necessary at least eventually.
 
I'm seriously considering a Beretta 1301, it's gonna be the Mod 1 because if I even dare to think about the Mod 2 I may as well go full retard and get an M4 with that chunk of change. Also I heard they might be discontinuing the marine finish with bias towards FDE/OD Green production.
I don't feel a need to get the extended tube, but I'm thinking a heatshield may be necessary at least eventually.
Doesn’t the publicly available Benelli M4 have a lot of limitations? Like I know they gimped the tube magazine from Military/Police at 7+1 to Civilian 5+1.
The non-Benelli aftermarket mag extensions are questionable from what I’ve seen too.
 
I'm seriously considering a Beretta 1301, it's gonna be the Mod 1 because if I even dare to think about the Mod 2 I may as well go full retard and get an M4 with that chunk of change. Also I heard they might be discontinuing the marine finish with bias towards FDE/OD Green production.
I don't feel a need to get the extended tube, but I'm thinking a heatshield may be necessary at least eventually.
Why not an A300?
 
Doesn’t the publicly available Benelli M4 have a lot of limitations? Like I know they gimped the tube magazine from Military/Police at 7+1 to Civilian 5+1.
The non-Benelli aftermarket mag extensions are questionable from what I’ve seen too.
It's that and parts non-availability in general, yes.

Why not an A300?
I gave it serious consideration, don't get me wrong. There's lots of quality of life improvements with the beveled loading port and foregrip attachment slots as well as extended tube from the factory, but I'm not as much a fan of the action extending into the stock or the single action bar, and the 1301 is also noticeably faster.
 
Get ready for an under gassed gun, maybe some jams/crushed cases.
I got some Lax reman last winter and had issues until I put in a Brownells(now discontinued) lightweight BCG, now it cycles good until I'm out of that ammo. I'm running a PSA 10.5 upper with a Rise 140 trigger and standard spring/buffer btw.
Standard PMC 5.56 feels pretty bad in that gun unless I put the old BCG back in, so it's definitely the ammo.
The reman companies are cheap faggots and can't be bothered to give you a healthy serving of whatever cheap powder they already use.
Unless you're saving more than 2cpr buying reman, I'd just get the real deal if it means avoiding squibs or having to change your gun. I bought my Lax 9mm and .223 for 19 and 37cpr early last winter, but now all reman is about the same or more than decent stuff like PPU or Igman.

Match dudes tend to be running the weakest fucking ammo imaginable, like shooting a .22 magnum almost. That definitely contributes to really fast looking videos, whereas they would do worse with some Winchester, or even some M855A1. Pistols will vary, some have less "recoil" with "pissin hawt" 9mm due to porting or brakes or whatever, while cowboy fellas can probably knock their 45lc out of the air with a rock.

That's why so many budget and even some more expensive ARs are ridiculously over gassed so they can cycle the out of spec trash reman ammo

What exactly is the timeline for when public opinion on 5.56 began to change? I’ve been reading through that Soldier of Forture archive and they seem to take every opportunity to shit on it, and the same goes for 9mm (some retard unironically said he’d rather use .22). I’m around the part where the U.S. started replacing the 1911 and publishing ballistic studies on 9mm vs .45 and the coping and seething from the SoF boomers is off the charts.

As an aside, I found this interaction in the February 1980 issue:
View attachment 6116338
Some G*rman faggot (whose descendants are undoubtedly being raped by Arabs by now) whining about the magazine’s support of Rhodesia.
View attachment 6116340
SoF publishes it because the libtard doxed himself :story:

Ahaha lol

That said SoF was one of the most Boomer tier retarded takes on firearms and ammo you'll ever see on God's green Earth.

That cam design and how it handles multiple trigger pulls during the three round "burst" is such bullshit.

It was a big fucking coon, about 30 pounds. They're normally nice enough, I've seen him around, been letting him eat our leftovers and garbage and was content with that.
She's okay, he had just grabbed her. She might lose an eye, we're gonna call her Od-hen.
I'm gonna go out tomorrow to find him, he usually slinks under my Cadillac during the day. I'll let you all know how effective .22 Mag is against a coon, and I'll let you all know how the pelt turns out when the missus finishes with it



It saw your home as a food source...... Waste it ASAP.

Raccoons also have thumbs.... B
Never trust them

I gave it serious consideration, don't get me wrong. There's lots of quality of life improvements with the beveled loading port and foregrip attachment slots as well as extended tube from the factory, but I'm not as much a fan of the action extending into the stock or the single action bar, and the 1301 is also noticeably faster.
The 1301, even in Mod 2 format, will absolutely go on discount at times.... Unlike the M4
 
So I was at wally world today and swung by the ammo counter got 40 rounds of 7mm rem mag fair price, I saw a round I didn't know, 360 buck hammer. Well... I'm a fucking child so I asked the employee about it who knew nothing and I kept saying "the 360 buckbreaker". Apparently, it's a 30-30 with a 9mm round but hot so it holds a flat shot.
They really don't pay those people enough to deal with people like me buying niche ammo and spouting memes.

Basically another attempt at reviving .35 Remington without bringing back .35 Remington but also making it for Henry's lever action.
Remington+360+Buckhammer.jpeg
Not going to lie, I want one, because I like oddball rounds. I mean my first gun was chambered in a belted cartridge, 300 win mag. I don't need this admittedly, I have 7.62x39mm and a SKS for my deer hunting needs, but in terms of WANTING a 360 Buckhammer, just for the excuse to get a lever gat that isnt a cheaper 22 or 357, yeah, I've definitely thought on it.
 
from people i know that jumped on it for elk in idaho and the dakotas, it's also a very good moose and even bison round. drops a stag like a sack of bad news.
I mean it's a 180-200 grain 9mm going roughly 2200-2400 feet per second. That is going to go deep and hit hard.
 
Back