Sweet Baby Inc. and the Steam Curator Group Conspiracy - The company that is responsible for the diarrheic video game writing.


I am going insane reading some of the replies here. For context, the discussion post links a r/KotakuInAction post , which in turn, discusses Upper Echeleon's video talking about the alleged extortion attempt by SBI against Game Science.

Spoiler alert, quite a few folks on KiA, and Upper Echelon, think the rumor is just a heap of bullshit that distracts from legitimate problems with SBI.

What do you think?
As I recall, the original post claimed it was "a company like (similar to) SBI". It might actually have been SBI but that's besides what I understood the point to be; which is that the developers were "offered consultancy" but declined, and were consequently slandered in western media.

Edit because I found the post:

Here's [A] the original Weibo post.

A new thread has been started that goes into more detail tweet body text

Original post:

The reason why Black Myth Goku has been profoundly attacked and vilified for alleged sexism from the first promotional video until now

Essentially it's because they've been refusing to be mentored by politically correct mentoring teams from overseas who pay millions of dollars to start with

In fact, there are many such teams in Europe and the United States, and they have profoundly interfered with the Assassin's Creed series, Fading Light 2, God of War 4, and so on.

A series of infamously ugly heroines are the direct result of politically correct mentoring teams (e.g. Ravan).

The Game Science team's refusal to communicate with them, to allow them to interfere, and most importantly to pay the $7million guide fee is the main reason why the rejected teams, the manipulative media, and some of the money-grubbing or profit-making Vloggers have gone on a rampage against them!

For example, one of IGN's main contributors, Rebecca Valentine, is a member of one of the politically-correct steering groups (sweetbaby, one of the most clearly characterised "consultant" groups), so they are basically in it for the money!

The translation is clearly a little janky, but the company extorting Game Science is not named.
 
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A wee bit of a problem with your analysis @Grug : As the translated texts at the top clearly states, the guy made a new post that goes into more detail.


I just saw this microblog. Web Links Good Guy Maggot Block Chain and Data Workers are still desperately doing data, or in a way that they think can mock people forward, copywriting is also the copywriting they think is the strongest attack, is nothing more than that we are shooting in the void

But the fact is the fact. This cannot be changed. Whether the game is good or not, and whether it is sold or not, their behaviors cannot be changed.

In the final analysis, sweetbaby and IGN need to completely knock down this game in public opinion, otherwise it will be difficult to collect protection fees in the future; and other domestic game developers and game media also expect this game to be knocked down, otherwise the first 3A game in China, if it is applauded and popular, will they be embarrassed? Will they be criticized on the opposite side?

In fact, the current situation is very similar to the scene after the Spring Festival this year. Do you still remember the massive negative of ideal mega and Xiaomi Su7, and all kinds of strange big hats without dead corners?

"Black Myth Wukong" and the game science behind it actually have a similar situation now. Of course, the hat that has been deducted is relatively clear. The four words: "Discrimination against women", the fact of this matter is no longer important. After all, the rumor has been refuted for several rounds, it is clearly said that "there is no need to use women to attract male players" can balabalabala be interpreted as "there is no need for women", and no matter how to refute the rumor, it will not listen to it, highlighting a profligacy.

Then let's take a look at popular science again. Since the first game promotion video, "Black Myth Wukong" has been subjected to rounds of online violence and has been labeled as discriminating against women again and again. In essence, it is because there is a very bad ecological environment overseas, that is, large game manufacturers. As long as there is a plan for any new game works, it must be subject to service requirements from politically correct teams like sweetbaby, asking them to intervene and help the game development team to avoid so-called sensitive issues, such as gender issues, LGBTQ +, race and color issues, etc. When a game company or development team refuses this requirement, Rebecca Valentin, one of the members of sweetbaby, will write articles on the IGN media platform where he works, condemn the game development team for having serious problems with gender or race, color or LGBTQ +

Under normal circumstances, most game companies, in line with the attitude that more is better than less, will carry out in-depth cooperation with these teams to make them provide services to avoid sensitive problems, and pay huge service fees by paying service fees, consulting fees, etc. Such fees usually start with millions of dollars, and some news confirms that they basically start with 7 million dollars. Some large companies pay 8 figures a year, very close to 5% to 10% of the game's subsequent profit.

However, this also leads to many games, such as ares 5, fading light 2, Assassin's creed series, call of duty series, mind killer 2, US doomsday 2, etc., which will all stuff a lot of puzzling things in the games, and the characters are so ugly that they can't be seen directly. Game companies involved in such things include Ubisoft, Microsoft, blizzard, Sony, etc, in some games, the person in charge of the sweetbaby is the person in charge of the game development team. To put it bluntly, it is to wash money for yourself. Moreover, at present, the war of words and mutual resentment overseas in this respect is far more intense than many people in China think, and the skinning of relevant contents is quite complete, in fact, there are many people in China who have turned the relevant content into their own content and posted it on various platforms. There are a lot of them on Station B. Of course, people who do not believe in it can not look at it. This is actually not a problem, because it will not change anything.

Game Science and his "Black Myth Wukong" are actually not the first game in our country to encounter this treatment, and he is definitely not the last game to encounter this treatment. Although the packaging is very good, the actual black public relations extortion behavior has formed a very complete night dependence path overseas. sweetbaby is only a relatively representative team, and there are many similar teams, our country's game industry will definitely encounter people like these repeatedly in the future to seek cooperation. Once they refuse, new development teams will encounter the same treatment as game science.

I know that many accounts of my little sister (because they may be robots) accuse us of vanity shooting over there. Of course, it doesn't matter. You think we are shooting in vanity. That is, because the objective reality is over there. You think it doesn't exist. You think it doesn't affect the objective reality. If you want to be idealistic, then idealistic, but don't forget that the world is materialistic, practice is the only criterion for testing truth. At this stage, your accusations, quality control, writhing and scolding cannot change the objective existence of any affairs.

Incidentally, this problem is not limited to the game industry in Europe and the United States. Many companies receive a lot of inexplicable spam every month, including training needs sent by some political correct teams asking whether they need some political correct assistance, because this kind of email is often sent like spam, and many companies will miss it. Then, after a period of time, the media will jump out and accuse XXX of not paying attention to equality education balabalabala, forcing your company to sign contracts with several equal rights teams and buy a bunch of inexplicable training courses.

Our domestic companies have not encountered similar situations when they go out to sea.

Of course, some of you can still say that we are shooting in the void.
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He makes it explicitly clear that he's referring to Sweet Baby Inc
 
Del Walker, the guy who complained that he pitched beautiful negresses and they always turned out ugly, is not going to make that mistake again.
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Nigger was whipped and put in his place LMFAO.
Its got me wondering. Who is more pozzed? Soyny or Microshit? Sweetbaby works with Sony games a lot so I think it might be Sony.
Microsoft absolutely. Through and through. In 2020 they were doing these security talks where they were acknowledging they were on stolen native lands while describing themselves and their pronouns.
MS is so fucking pozzed on all fronts.

With regards to the monkey game.
Never trust a chink without receipts. They can claim all they want but I wanna see an email / the phone call about it. Chinks are just trying to monopolize on people's hatred of this shit cause its what they do.
 
Sony easily. MS is just chasing money. Sony seems determined to go down with the ship.

Sony seems to be staffed with more true believers than Microsoft is. All Microsoft is doing is chasing trends, not money. It's been a proven track record that doing this doesn't net any profit at all, so Microsoft is just chasing trends, since a lot of the suits are deathly afraid of the cancel pigs.
 
With regards to the monkey game.
Never trust a chink without receipts. They can claim all they want but I wanna see an email / the phone call about it. Chinks are just trying to monopolize on people's hatred of this shit cause its what they do.
It's a tough one to call. On the one hand, something feels off about it. On the other, this is exactly the kind of thing SBI and co. do.

It's tricky because one side is doing the typical "Source! Source! Where's the receipts!" thing and then moving the goal posts whenever they're provided. The other seems to be attracting opportunistic political grifters trying to make consooming product into some weird show of support. The language barrier isn't helping, with wildly different translations depending on who you ask.

But ultimately, I don't think it's important anyway. Let's say it's all true. Monkey game devs said "no" to SBI. That's not enough to get me to buy a game, and despite claims the game looks awesome, I've not seen much of any gameplay, and what little I have seen looks bland and generic.
 
It's a tough one to call. On the one hand, something feels off about it. On the other, this is exactly the kind of thing SBI and co. do.

It's tricky because one side is doing the typical "Source! Source! Where's the receipts!" thing and then moving the goal posts whenever they're provided. The other seems to be attracting opportunistic political grifters trying to make consooming product into some weird show of support. The language barrier isn't helping, with wildly different translations depending on who you ask.

But ultimately, I don't think it's important anyway. Let's say it's all true. Monkey game devs said "no" to SBI. That's not enough to get me to buy a game, and despite claims the game looks awesome, I've not seen much of any gameplay, and what little I have seen looks bland and generic.

I'm of the same mind here, and honestly, I'm pretty burnt out on the Souls genre as a whole.
 
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Thank you for digging up that post. I'm still not convinced that he's claiming SBI is the specific company which (allegedly) extorted Game Science.

In the final analysis, sweetbaby and IGN need to completely knock down this game in public opinion, otherwise it will be difficult to collect protection fees in the future; and other domestic game developers and game media also expect this game to be knocked down, otherwise the first 3A game in China, if it is applauded and popular, will they be embarrassed?
SBI (and IGN) needs to win because, regardless of whether they specifically attempted to extort Game Science, this is their business model.

As long as there is a plan for any new game works, it must be subject to service requirements from politically correct teams like sweetbaby, asking them to intervene and help the game development team to avoid so-called sensitive issues
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When a game company or development team refuses this requirement, Rebecca Valentin, one of the members of sweetbaby, will write articles on the IGN media platform where he works, condemn the game development team for having serious problems with gender or race, color or LGBTQ +
"Like sweetbaby" and again, protecting their business model.

Game Science and his "Black Myth Wukong" are actually not the first game in our country to encounter this treatment, and he is definitely not the last game to encounter this treatment. Although the packaging is very good, the actual black public relations extortion behavior has formed a very complete night dependence path overseas. sweetbaby is only a relatively representative team, and there are many similar teams, our country's game industry will definitely encounter people like these repeatedly in the future to seek cooperation.
"sweetbaby is only a relatively representative team"

(I am very confused by "very complete night dependence path overseas" but DeepL spit this out too so who knows what it means.)
I don't think your interpretation is unreasonable, this is the way SBI operates after all, but let's agree to disagree until more proof is shown.
 
It's a tough one to call. On the one hand, something feels off about it. On the other, this is exactly the kind of thing SBI and co. do.
The fact that any western sensitivity consultation business would just walk to a CCP company to run their grift is very hard to believe.

But what makes this situation very strange is that any journalist could have cleared that up with a couple of phone calls in a matter of days but no one did. This in turn helps to feed the rumors that it was true. And I know that they're complete useless retards, but not even a single one thought to do that? why?

And to further support the fact that it might be true, they release some poorly researched takedown for "sexism" very shortly after.

I don't know if they keep taking self owns just out of sheer incompetence or there's something else to it.
 
I don't know if they keep taking self owns just out of sheer incompetence or there's something else to it.
This is something I'm considering making a general thread on, because there's been a running theme of trying to push wokeshit when viable alternatives exist instead of when they had control.

With games it makes sense. They were unimportant distractions and go into the media late.

With films and TV, it was Hollywood studios and 4-5 channels run out of London and that was it. Why not push gay and trans shit back then when the audience had no alternative, no internet to coordinate, etc. There are some that try to lie and say this shit was always pushed, but no. Simply going back and watching these old TV and movies shows that much. Where was the trans shit in Jurassic Park, or the political punching bag that gets upstaged by the girlboss Mary Sue in The Thing?
 
They had to buld their power base by making shit people actually liked first. Then they had to normalize jews and niggers by pretending they could be human. Then they had to promote and normalize regular faggots.

Now they're on to trannies amd other somewhat legal dgenerates. Next is pedophiles. I can't even conceive of what's after that, but I'm sure they have a plan.
 
This is something I'm considering making a general thread on, because there's been a running theme of trying to push wokeshit when viable alternatives exist instead of when they had control.

With games it makes sense. They were unimportant distractions and go into the media late.

With films and TV, it was Hollywood studios and 4-5 channels run out of London and that was it. Why not push gay and trans shit back then when the audience had no alternative, no internet to coordinate, etc. There are some that try to lie and say this shit was always pushed, but no. Simply going back and watching these old TV and movies shows that much. Where was the trans shit in Jurassic Park, or the political punching bag that gets upstaged by the girlboss Mary Sue in The Thing?

Never assume malice of that which can be explained away by stupidity and incompetence. Though, in this case, absolutely assume malice due to the fact that a lot of this shit is being trendy to push by those with an agenda. These people want you to suck the tranny dick, and will kill you socially if you don't.
 
But ultimately, I don't think it's important anyway. Let's say it's all true. Monkey game devs said "no" to SBI. That's not enough to get me to buy a game, and despite claims the game looks awesome, I've not seen much of any gameplay, and what little I have seen looks bland and generic.
Agreed. There's another factor is the Journey to the West fatigue. If you live anywhere close to the sinosphere, you'll be exposed to Journey to the West one way or another, be it from a TV show, literature study or reference in other media, so much so that at some point you'll get tired of the same story being told over and over again. Whatever the twist they have in place for the story is yet to be seen and the gameplay is so-so.

I'd recommend the 1986 TV series of Journey to the West, it has a lot of charm of it's time, still hold up decently today and the main reason why Monkey King is popular in China in the first place. It should be a good reference point outside of reading the translated novel to judge how good or bad Black Myth Wukong writing is.
 
Never assume malice of that which can be explained away by stupidity and incompetence.
I would argue that a lot of the time it's actually both and that the idea that it's purely an unintentional consequence of idiocy is something made up by people who can't face the idea that there's a lot of people who will knowingly fuck you over for their own gain.
 
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