Furry Fandom and Drama General

[JethroTullamore]

God I wish we brought back public lynching. The closest thing we have is twitter shaming.

You’d be first in line, sweetie.

 

[Clockwork]

Furry coprophiliacs in VRChat. They sound way too excited.


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[Law]

I admit I'm wrong, but I thought the vast majority of furries were formed in the crucible of weird childhood fixations on specific cartoon characters that got reinforced and generalized via jerkin'.

Stalking a Tiny Toons voice actor was the old way, getting groomed ironically in VR Chat is the new way.
Do you ever think furries have a higher need for socializing than normal people? All the conventions, Twitter beef, living with 6 room-mates, Telegram chatting, buttsex meet-ups, movie nights, VR Chat events, dinner parties, it just sounds exhausting to me. It's like furries just can't be alone.

 

[Drunken Fox]

Furry coprophiliacs in VRChat. They sound way too excited.

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Not to reject your claim of them being coprophiliacs, but I looked at the twitter and didn't see anything suggesting that. I'll be honest, they all just came across as laughing at the absurdity of the whole thing. Not that I don't doubt there are some furries out there jacking themselves to this thing, but this just doesn't seem like it.

 

[AngryTreeRat]

Do you ever think furries have a higher need for socializing than normal people? All the conventions, Twitter beef, living with 6 room-mates, Telegram chatting, buttsex meet-ups, movie nights, VR Chat events, dinner parties, it just sounds exhausting to me. It's like furries just can't be alone.

As somebody who has spent a large portion of their life furry adjacent despite never being a furry, I came to a conclusion a long time ago that there are basically furries, furries, and furries.

The first group are the ones who sort of identify as furries because they jerk off to furry porn and appreciate the art, but they don't ever form any connection to the community or a fursona or any of that which we associate with the behavior of a furry. They don't go to the conventions. They don't commission any art. They don't buy the merchandise. They don't have a fursuit. They don't engage with other furries in any social context due to being furries. If they have any furry friends, it's because of the same reason someone like me can end up with a furry friend: if they aren't actively being an obnoxious degenerate and are otherwise a good friend and can keep their shit together, I'm not going to be that upset about it. I might occasionally tell them to not make an ass of themselves, but part of being a good friend is occasionally telling your friends not to make an ass of themselves anyways. Everyone occasionally needs to be grabbed by the shirt and yanked back before they do something stupid. Another way to put it, these are the ones that are literally just there for the porn. These are the only ones that are safe from scrutiny when someone says "not all furries" about something because chances are you might even question if they count as furries at all.

Then there's those who do engage with the social aspects of being a furry. They go to the conventions, they get a fursona, they might commission art or create their own art, they will do what it takes to get a fursuit potentially, they will spend money on the merchandise, they will publicly identify as a furry, they will seek out people who are also furries, they will actively engage in the fandom. Every single one of these people, regardless of what they say, whenever I look at their behavior are clearly naturally highly social extroverted individuals. They are the type of people who crave attention and social interaction. People like this exist in every, every hobby, and fandom. This group who can still technically be functional despite being heavily involved in the community. They still maintain a separation between themselves and the fursona. They identify as more than just furries. The context needs to be right for you to find out they are a furry. They attend one or two events a year. Preferring local over big. They are still somewhat tethered to normie values. They understand that some of this shit that other furries are loud and proud about shouldn't be advertised so distinctly. They keep their degeneracy to themselves if they have it and they don't call out anyone else for theirs.

Then there is the third and final group I have never seen this group exist independently of the second group and they are more of a subgroup set aside due to their inability to function in society. These are the ones where they actually enter lolcow territory for me. These are the people whose identity is primarily about being a furry. They will be spending money on being a furry, and a lot of it. They will try and make money off of being a furry rather than attempt any other type of career. If they do have to take some other type of career they will constantly be trying to pivot it into being a "professional furry <whatever>". These are the ones who get involved in the operation of the fandom and conventions, they organize the parties, they actively network and attempt to become popufurs, their entire online persona revolves around being a furry. The do cringe shit IRL because there is no separation between them and their fursona. They will attend as many events as they can, and also attempt to run as many as they can. They will choose their events based on size, prestige, and how much influence they have over it's operation of those who operate it. They have the morality of the community. And they might even view themselves as the morality of the community. They will tell everyone about their degeneracy and openly broadcast their dog whistles for the things that are restricted by law. On the other hand, in the cases where these guys actually have some scruples they seem to always be the only ones openly calling out others. If they aren't, the only reason they stopped is because a fear of losing their influence.

Two of these groups are hypersocial individuals. If they had ended up in Star Wars instead of furries they would have been just as hungry for sociality. It's also a bit of a leaky pipeline through these as stages. You start at the first one, and you end at the third one. Along the way you leak out of the pipe and stay where you were.

The entire reason I split them up into these groups BTW is to make it easier decide if they are worth keeping an eye on for drama or not. The further along the line they are the more they are going to have drama and the lead me towards other drama.

 

[Drunken Fox]

As somebody who has spent a large portion of their life furry adjacent despite never being a furry, I came to a conclusion a long time ago that there are basically furries, furries, and furries.

Maybe just because I'm a bit more in the furry space, but I feel there's a group between one and two in your chart. These are the ones who interact minimally, but a bit more than the pure lurkers. I've found this a lot with more creative introverts who want to make stuff, so they do end up interacting with the greater furry space, but aren't so much on the the socialize like crazy side. Not to say they can't become group two. Especially if those in the second group start pulling them towards that and eroding their boundaries.

Personally I've always kind of made a similar distinction to you where I put them into furries and Furries. The first group being your group 1 and the in-between group I described. They like furry stuff, but interact with the fandom as pure lurkers or minimally without getting too socially involved. Most importantly, they try and keep their furry and non-furry lives separate.

Then the Furries are the ones who are way too connected socially. Being a furry is a massive part of their life and they're going to let everyone know about it. The degree in which they are involved and if they can maintain at least a somewhat non-furry life determines their ridiculousness.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Not to reject your claim of them being coprophiliacs, but I looked at the twitter and didn't see anything suggesting that. I'll be honest, they all just came across as laughing at the absurdity of the whole thing. Not that I don't doubt there are some furries out there jacking themselves to this thing, but this just doesn't seem like it.

There are some weird comments under the tweet BTW.

https://nitter.poast.org/ReccaWolfTweets/status/1804893849916989746#m

Anyways I'm here today due to something unexpected and I couldn't find any good thread to post this on (and forget it I'm not even fucking making it)

Spoiler: Full story/Powerlevel

>I've become a regular on the Sharty, mostly looking at the pics posted to its booru (this is something that's important just read).
>So today this thread gets bumped, I see it and get curious who made the drawing, so I looked it up on the booru.
>Lo and behold I find it posted very recently, no link to the OC tho. (And that link: "http://%27cado%27s%20hemorrhoid-wrecked%20coinslot/" is probably not it, don't click on it it's noone of my business if you get a virus)
>Anyways that's no biggie, I download the picture and will use it to reverse search it.
>Ok, so now I have the pic, all I have to do is to find where it comes from.
>Actively avoiding Google Lens because fuckgoogle.com I used Tineyes and got 0 result.
>I go to this site: https://alternativeto.net/software/tineye/ and there I looked at what I could try the image on, I pick Saucenao.
>Saucenao gets 1 result, it's the fucking furry porn site. Figured they'd leave a link to the OC, so I click on it and nothing would load other than the layout.
>I right click 1 of the pic that won't load and click on "open image in new tab"

Spoiler: More of this shit part 2.txt

<Yep, I'm a swisscaca I hope that fact won't ever be used to dox me here or elsewhere.
>I'm so fucking terrified, for an hour I've been scared the feds would knock on my door because I didn't have any VPN on at the time and I wasn't using tor either, just a basic private window.
>They didn't come.
You want to know the worst part? This wouldn't have happened if the nigger that posted this pic didn't put a meme link and instead linked back to where they got this shit. Maybe it's my fault I should just go back to using Jewgle for everything.

Anyways big lose for switzerland furfags, they can't browse e621 freely anymore. That'll surely hurt that site's ranking which is a good thing since apparently they legit host pedo shit that got them partially banned in fucking Switzerland of all places.
Literally the only point of this website is to host pics, if it can't even do that anymore, it's effectively the same as getting a full-on ban.

 

[Whatevermancer]

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Weird, I tried googling "e621.net banned Switzerland", but found nothing. You'd think it'd be a big deal.

 

[Toolbox]

Weird, I tried googling "e621.net banned Switzerland", but found nothing. You'd think it'd be a big deal.

I'd imagine not as many people care cause VPNs are so widespread and known now, but you'd think there'd be some sort of reaction.

 

[Whatevermancer]

I'd imagine not as many people care cause VPNs are so widespread and known now, but you'd think there'd be some sort of reaction.

Yeah, I think when one of the states of the USA was considering a law that would make an age verification mandatory for all sites that host pornography, e621 released a public statement and blocked all access from that state.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Also if legislations are publicised of course the furfags would notice immediately.
When a country bans a website (Be it China or Russia) they don't make it public, it's only later that ppl are noticing it when they try to go to a specific site. Hell because not the whole site got banned, only the backend, I bet most of them would believe the website is simply broken and then annoy the jannies on discord to fix it before realising what really happened.
I give it 1 week before it becomes public knowledge.

 

[Google.com]

Anyways big lose for switzerland furfags, they can't browse e621 freely anymore. That'll surely hurt that site's ranking which is a good thing since apparently they legit host pedo shit that got them partially banned in fucking Switzerland of all places

I tried a Switzerland VPN and used 5 different online tools to check the site from a Switzerland server, it wasn't blocked anywhere. Your schizophrenic

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

I tried a Switzerland VPN and used 5 different online tools to check the site from a Switzerland server, it wasn't blocked anywhere. Your schizophrenic

1. Did you go past the frontpage? The frontend works, not the backend retard.
2. I literally posted screenshots proving you this is real.
3. I literally couldn't find any website that loads another website from a server in Switzerland. Did you use Is It Down Right Now? its servers are prolly in the US.

 

[Google.com]

1. Did you go past the frontpage? The frontend works, not the backend retard.
2. I literally posted screenshots proving you this is real.
3. I literally couldn't find any website that loads another website from a server in Switzerland. Did you use Is It Down Right Now? its servers are prolly in the US.

1. Yes
2. ok
3. geotargetly.com this only shows a screenshot of the first loaded page but the whole site works fine in vpn too so your still scitzo.

do you really not think there is a single technologically literate furry in switzerland who wouldn't immediately notice this during his daily hourly gooning session.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

do you really not think there is a single technologically literate furry in switzerland who wouldn't immediately notice this during his daily hourly gooning session.

Furries are so retarded they'd chalk it up to the website not working. Literally said this on the other post.

so your still scitzo.

Bro doesn't even know what schizophrenia is.
Explain why I can't access the site normally and I get a warning that almost reads like "we'll send the feds to your door for visiting zoo pedo site" then retard.

Maybe instead of using a VPN that probably filters this page, you should come to switzerland buy a subscription to an ISP and see if that fucken' works.

 

[California Newt]

I refuse to even think about any of this horseshit ever again. Jesus Christ

 

[Otis Boi]

As somebody who has spent a large portion of their life furry adjacent despite never being a furry, I came to a conclusion a long time ago that there are basically furries, furries, and furries.

As someone in the second group I wonder if being in multiple fandoms stops people from flowing into the third. In short of your a furry and also into video games,anime ect you have other interests the divert your time and energy elsewhere. It's like if you are a more well rounded person and can split interests you don't fall into the degenerate rabbit hole. I know plenty of people who whole thing is being a Furry its miserable to be around because you cant have a discission about anything else. I think it stops the feed back loop if you can talk about game you are currently playing or obscure movies you bought.

Defiantly something interesting to think about for sure. Way better then the "Bros is any hole a goal ,REAL?!?!?" going on before.

 

[Corn Flakes]

As someone in the second group I wonder if being in multiple fandoms stops people from flowing into the third. In short of your a furry and also into video games,anime ect you have other interests the divert your time and energy elsewhere. It's like if you are a more well rounded person and can split interests you don't fall into the degenerate rabbit hole. I know plenty of people who whole thing is being a Furry its miserable to be around because you cant have a discission about anything else. I think it stops the feed back loop if you can talk about game you are currently playing or obscure movies you bought.

Defiantly something interesting to think about for sure. Way better then the "Bros is any hole a goal ,REAL?!?!?" going on before.

That's my working theory as to why, in relative terms, fewer weebs seem to completely fall off the boat the way furries do. Sure, the ones that do fall tend to reach the same levels of degeneracy on average than the equivalent furries... but the ones closer to the surface tend to be fans of multiple IPs or have more than one interest that's adjacent to anime/manga. Like Girls Und Panzer fans also having an interest in history, or all the fans of "girls with guns" anime also being gun nerds.

This theory also explains why lolicons tend to be cringy speds even by weeb standards: they tend to be single-interest and terminally online, same as furries.

 

[AngryTreeRat]

As someone in the second group I wonder if being in multiple fandoms stops people from flowing into the third. In short of your a furry and also into video games,anime ect you have other interests the divert your time and energy elsewhere. It's like if you are a more well rounded person and can split interests you don't fall into the degenerate rabbit hole. I know plenty of people who whole thing is being a Furry its miserable to be around because you cant have a discission about anything else. I think it stops the feed back loop if you can talk about game you are currently playing or obscure movies you bought.

Defiantly something interesting to think about for sure. Way better then the "Bros is any hole a goal ,REAL?!?!?" going on before.

I've wondered the same as well, I have noticed that this is usually what pulls people who were in deep up the levels once they sink low. I am sure almost every furry casually plays video games and watches anime, because that is one of those general statements that applies to a rapidly growing portion of the non-senior population of North America (I won't get into the fucking wild numbers we're getting for demographic targeting reasons in the gaming industry these last few years, just know that playing video games as something you dedicate some time and money to is about as common among TV owners as owning a TV is among North American households in general), but I think how much interest you take in games, anime, etc also matters. The guy who just buys yearly releases of sport game, gun game, major franchise, or console exclusive probably isn't going to help himself any from falling into the rabbit hole, but the guy who can actually specify a few likes and dislikes by genre rather than franchise probably has enough interest to help him. Actually, I would say the post important protection from full furry degeneracy among furries might actually be a desire to talk about literally anything else.

 

[Otis Boi]

That's my working theory as to why, in relative terms, fewer weebs seem to completely fall off the boat the way furries do. Sure, the ones that do fall tend to reach the same levels of degeneracy on average than the equivalent furries... but the ones closer to the surface tend to be fans of multiple IPs or have more than one interest that's adjacent to anime/manga. Like Girls Und Panzer fans also having an interest in history, or all the fans of "girls with guns" anime also being gun nerds.

This theory also explains why lolicons tend to be cringy speds even by weeb standards: they tend to be single-interest and terminally online, same as furries.

Truly Diversity of thought is our greatest strength. I think we should really think autism makes it hard for people for split interests. That would explain why so many lolicons are so fucking retarred and seem to cluster together with in such tight groups. That and why you can get anime watchers that despise V-Tubers.

I would say the post important protection from full furry degeneracy among furries might actually be a desire to talk about literally anything else.

I think being a real rounded person in general just stops this from happening. Everyone is a weirdo deep down you just don't let every person know that you are.