US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Breadbassket]

My problem with Burgum is every time I see his name my mind reads it as "Bugman."

My take on Vivek is he seems totally assimilated, and an enthusiastic Patriot, and is all in on the Trump train. If there is anyone who is a potential actual successor who will continue the MAGA legacy and not just go RINO after Trump is out of office, it's him.

My fear is that while he's an incredibly dynamic speaker, so was Obama, who turned out to be an empty suit that did actual damage.

Vivek Ramaswamy and J.D. Vance are both interesting figures as both started out as public critics of Trump before changing their tunes years after he got into office. Ramaswamy used DEI initiatives in the past (just a couple years ago) and then went on to criticize them while running for president meanwhile Vance has links with Peter Thiel and previous worked for him.

Past comments from Vance:

In March, Sen. J.D. Vance tweeted, "I have a long memory. If you’re fighting Trump and his endorsed political candidates today, don’t ask for my help in a year with your projects."

I have a long memory, too, Senator.

I remember, in 2016, Vance offering sharp criticism of Trump during his press tour for Hillbilly Elegy, a memoir that, as one Appalachian critic bluntly put it, primarily argues "poor people suffer because they don’t know any better."

I remember an August 2016 interview with Vance on Kentucky radio host Matt Jones’ podcast, where Vance told Jones, "I agree with you on Trump because I don’t think he’s the person. I don’t think he actually cares about folks."

I remember Vance’s appearance on ABC’s Powerhouse Roundtable, where he dismissed then-candidate Trump as someone who "doesn’t offer many solutions."

I even remember Vance telling NPR he’d consider voting Democrat before voting for Trump, joking, "I think there’s a chance, if I feel like Trump has a really good chance of winning, that I might have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton.

When Trump told voters Vance was "kissing my a--" during his Senate bid, Vance neither protested nor stood up from himself. In fact, he worked even harder to win Trump's approval. Vance has been a busy Trump surrogate on national talk shows and even joined Trump's entourage in the New York courtroom for the former president's hush money trial. Vance has vigorously defended Trump even after his conviction on 34 felony counts while bashing the justice system.

Past comments from Ramaswamy:

Trump was banned from Twitter and Facebook days after the January 6 riot for inciting violence on the platforms. Ramaswamy criticized the tech giants’ move in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece as a violation of free speech, but he also had some choice words for Trump himself. Ramaswamy described the riot as “disgraceful” and called Trump’s actions “egregious” and “downright abhorrent” on Twitter.

But now that he is running against Trump for president, Ramaswamy is confusingly and aggressively refusing to address his comments. When MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan pressed him about the criticisms Wednesday night, Ramaswamy did everything he could to avoid actually answering the question.

Hasan asked Ramaswamy to explain his comments several more times, but Ramaswamy never gave a straight answer. Instead, he kept saying what he would have done on January 6.

Both men could be genuine in their support for Trump but that's hard to say since this is politics. If either of them turn out to be little more then opportunists who were happy to play the role of sycophant for a while don't be surprised.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Doesn't Ohio also have a disproportionate number of Astronauts?

Neil Armstrong was from Ohio. We were the first people in the sky AND the moon. There's just something about living in Ohio that makes visionaries and principled, disciplined men. We've got low lows but very high highs.

 

[Wimbydong]

Here's my take on Veep:

• I don't think Trump should pick Vance because that would void a valuable Senate seat that could easily go to a Matt Dolan RINO type. Same applies to Rand Paul although I don't think he is really in the conversation.
• Burgum makes a lot of sense, so does Carson. I'd rather the good doctor but I'd be fine with either.
• I don't trust Vivek, but I don't think he's getting the Veep nod. Cabinet / Press Sec like others mentioned.
• None of the women candidates are all that compelling for me. Tulsi I guess for the cross-aisle appeal but she's a gun-grabber.
• But none of this matters because his Veep's gonna be Ron Paul and that ticket will win bigly in November

 

[Netizennameless]

Ohioans are very presidential, look it up, you'd be shocked how many presidents came from Ohio. I know the memes gave us a bad rap but to love Ohio is to love the United States. Trump would do very well to bring Vance along with him.

People these days forget that before the collapse of US auto and steel manufacturing, Ohio was a crown jewel of the nation. Some of the world's richest robber barons lived there.

Never trust a Pajeet, Vivek is just wearing whatever skin he thinks will get him to the great Apple Gift Card in the capital.

There is a difference between a pajeet and an American who is brown. Vivek was born here, spent his life here, made his money here. He is an American.

 

[George Lucas]

Trump isn't going to announce his VP pick until the convention.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

That's bait. You want me to say journalists aren't people.

I would like to deny this, but i know someone was gonna make this joke

 

[XxSuleEliteGamingxX]

It's going to be funny as fuck to see Trump fuck up in the debate. I can already see it coming from a mile away.

 

[teriyakiburns]

There is a difference between a pajeet and an American who is brown. Vivek was born here, spent his life here, made his money here. He is an American.

Jeets don't naturalise.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I too would prefer Carson to the street shitter and I'm thinking that's the way it's going to go. Lets be real the VP picks has to be a black and has to be something that will bring more voters to the table.

I don't know why people push for Gabbard, she's hardly a conservative and surf mommy milkers isn't going to win people's vote.

 

[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

Neil Armstrong was from Ohio. We were the first people in the sky AND the moon. There's just something about living in Ohio that makes visionaries and principled, disciplined men. We've got low lows but very high highs.

Or maybe there's something about Ohio that makes you want to leave so badly that you physically remove yourself from the fucking Earth.

 

[tehpope]

If the VP is gonna be one man, my final pick is...

Spoiler

Ohioans are very presidential, look it up, you'd be shocked how many presidents came from Ohio. I know the memes gave us a bad rap but to love Ohio is to love the United States. Trump would do very well to bring Vance along with him.

Ohio is only really good for Presidents, Astronauts, and votes. It also is home to rock and roll. At least where Alan Freed coined the term for the genre. and the RNRHOF.

 

[Meat Target]

Ohio is only really good for Presidents, Astronauts, and votes. It also is home to rock and roll. At least where Alan Freed coined the term for the genre. and the RNRHOF.

And chili. And college football. And crank.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Doesn't Ohio also have a disproportionate number of Astronauts?

That's a conspiracy theory. Don't think about. Don't go to space you.

 

[quaawaa]

Just RINOs doing RINO things (context is the DHS appropriations bill):

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They did pass one good thing:

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[Absolutego]

RE: Veep questions, my only problem with Vance is that he's too young. Tap that dude for executive roles in another 4 years. Season him a bit and let him get frustrated by DC bullshit.
Problem is there really aren't any good candidates outside of him. Maybe Hawley? But he keeps embarrassing himself kissing up to the party establishment that I'm not sure he wouldn't be another knife in the back. Rubio's a non-starter, so is Cruz.

 

[FieldPiece]

By that logic then Attempted Murder is no crime at all!

And further, the logic presumes that they will still be in authority and uncompromised after the fact. When the crimes are ones that threaten actual electoral process or freedom of speech - i.e. actual subversions of power, then assuming you can punish them retroactively is not a safe assumption.

"Your honor the plaintiff has no standing as he's still alive and the detailed plans found in my house for his assassination are only things that 'could' happen"

 

[Meat Target]

Maybe Hawley? But he keeps embarrassing himself kissing up to the party establishment that I'm not sure he wouldn't be another knife in the back.

Hawley's too young, and is defending his seat this year.

 

[Absolutego]

Hawley's too young, and is defending his seat this year.

He's like 40-something, that was primo Veep age before the baby boomers absolutely refused to hand over power and we got governed by geriatrics.
You do have a point about him defending his seat though.

 

[The best and greatest]

Problem is there really aren't any good candidates outside of him. Maybe Hawley? But he keeps embarrassing himself kissing up to the party establishment that I'm not sure he wouldn't be another knife in the back. Rubio's a non-starter, so is Cruz.

When I think of Ted Cruz I think of the most bland boring dinner you've ever eaten that's been sitting out for a little bit too long. Pass. How people can look past that uncanny grimace he's always making and still vote for him I'll never know

Whoever told this fishman to stitch a beard to his mask should be given a raise and a promotion

 

[Back me up!]

People these days forget that before the collapse of US auto and steel manufacturing, Ohio was a crown jewel of the nation. Some of the world's richest robber barons lived there.


There is a difference between a pajeet and an American who is brown. Vivek was born here, spent his life here, made his money here. He is an American.

Disagree.

America is basically getting the upfront view of what has happened in Tech: The smart sounding, clean cut, energic Indian comes in, impresses the boss, gets hired, and then brings in the Indian race mafia turning a given department into little Mumbai. The only advantage Vivek has is that he got his ass beat by a couple of blacks kids in high school so he might have some of that rage in him.

I really wish the rumors of Youngkin panned out.