Mega Rad Gun Thread

[HarblMcDavid]

Doesn’t the publicly available Benelli M4 have a lot of limitations? Like I know they gimped the tube magazine from Military/Police at 7+1 to Civilian 5+1.
The non-Benelli aftermarket mag extensions are questionable from what I’ve seen too.

The primary limitation is price in all honesty, as good parts exist unless FFT has really come downhill since I last bought stuff from them. The ceracoated titanium 7+1 I got fit like a glove but you do need a heat-gun to get the stock tube out. No, you can't use a hairdryer. Just get a heat-gun, trust me. Took me two minutes flat.

The second limitation is barrel. It's 18.5 or 14.5 with everything built into it, and those shits are hundreds and hundreds of dollars, so I hope you like an 18.5. Just make sure you get a 2-port barrel (most of them are), because a 4-port is going to destroy your internals with full power shit going through it over time. If you want to play with mini-shells...maybe. They're intended for low-recoil rounds after all.

The third limitation is weight, 4th is stock-selection. The field stock is not worth your time other than a collectors item IMO (it took me actual years to get one), the collapsing I've heard nothing but bad things about comfort wise despite looking badass. The default PG stock is the best except for LOP being long for smaller dudes.


It does have some fun quirks though.

Like it ghost loads without modifications, so it's actually tube-capacity +2, not +1.

You can also slap standard shotgun extension tubes on the end of the existing 7 round tube to further increase capacity (I forget the exact pattern off the top, it's either Benelli or Beretta), though anything more than +1 is really not worth your time as it starts to look silly past the end of the barrel, though this has the knock-on effect of making sure you need to unscrew that carefully as the spring will be unretained (normally there's a clippy thing in the end keeping it from flying out).

Because the standard barrel takes benelli mobile (iirc) pattern chokes and comes with a medium, it's actually a very respectable clay-shooting gun much to the chagrin of those with 15k perazzis at the range. Yes, even with ghost rings, though I typically use the front sight like a bead when I shoot clays rather than using the rings.

This is more of an OCD/autism thing, but it's a beautiful gun to disassemble. Unscrew the mag cap and it basically comes completely apart for cleaning, with removal of the charging handle and the disassembly pin being all that remains unless you want to unscrew the stock and get to the buffer tube. Snap rings are needed to free the mag spring under normal circumstances, but with a +1 on the end no need, only need those for the buffer tube. If you really want to get to the gas pistons the front of each screws off and the pistons fall out, but normally you don't touch these.

It is also pretty soft-shooting especially compared to an M2, mostly because of the weight.

 

[Samhain]

I know what kind of firearm I want. I want a rifle/carbine. The issue is which rifle is best. There are AK clones, M4 clones, SCAR clones, all in various calibers and ranging in price from 500 to 6,000 dollars. What is a man to do?

What's your budget for just the bare rifle -- no optic, accessories, etc? If this is your first rifle, ignore stuff like AKs and special piston-driven systems. Get a standard direct impingement AR chambered in 5.56.

 

[Club Sandwich]

Because the standard barrel takes benelli mobile (iirc) pattern chokes and comes with a medium

the standard Benelli M4 barrel comes with a Modified and it uses either Mobil or Optima Plus (or Crio Plus) chokes.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

It's intensely satisfying to see drone bullshit being countered, no matter which side.

It's not all the time we get to watch an accelerated arms-race in action. Things took epochs to evolve before, now they're mutating almost daily. I can't think of anything like it besides maybe aviation; but even then the time scale for itaritive improvement was months at most.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Here we see a Russian with some type of early-warning receiver, downing FPV drones with a shotgun.
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This is the first time I've seen one actually being used, but supposedly they've been issued on both sides for a while now.

That's the same Russian YouTuber who gets to blow shit up with heavy weaponry.
Here's the original telegram post, he says he used #5 bird shot. https://t.me/bolshiepushki/8110

More footage from the same series, can get a better look at the shotgun.

Riding around with a recon unit:

https://t.me/bolshiepushki/8105

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

It's not all the time we get to watch an accelerated arms-race in action. Things took epochs to evolve before, now they're mutating almost daily. I can't think of anything like it besides maybe aviation; but even then the time scale for itaritive improvement was months at most.

Not only the acceleration, but also the digging in the old well. Shotguns were viewed as case by case, non viable for most situations. Now they're dusting off the old Mossberg and making sure at least one of their squad has one.

 

[Seafarer]

Reading through SoF again and found this interesting gun from one of the 1980 articles:






I can’t find any more info about this “PC-80” online, so this appears to be a truly forgotten weapon. It was chambered in .221 Fireball of all things and because of sperging about the “poodle shooter” caliber from Uber Fudd Jeff Cooper, they also planned on chambering it in .44 Automag as well.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Not only the acceleration, but also the digging in the old well. Shotguns were viewed as case by case, non viable for most situations. Now they're dusting off the old Mossberg and making sure at least one of their squad has one.

"A drone ain't nothing yer grandpappy's ole 10 gauge can't handle, Why i kilt ducks at 100 yard with this old ithaca!"
-some duck shooting old timer (probably)

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

"A drone ain't nothing yer grandpappy's ole 10 gauge can't handle, Why i kilt ducks at 100 yard with this old ithaca!"
-some duck shooting old timer (probably)
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Good ol' Scotchmo one of my bread and butter recruitable characters from Wasteland, fucking surgeon with a shotty and could disarm locks and traps better than anyone else.

 

[Bogliacci]

That's the same Russian YouTuber who gets to blow shit up with heavy weaponry.
Here's the original telegram post, he says he used #5 bird shot. https://t.me/bolshiepushki/8110

More footage from the same series, can get a better look at the shotgun.

Riding around with a recon unit:
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https://t.me/bolshiepushki/8105

Little did I know pheasant hunting was just training for ww3 this whole time

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

Ladies and Gentlemen......we got him.
Though this is the first bad batch of Aguila 22 lr. I've had. Loaded it up in grandpappy's WW2 mossberg. I set out some meat fat over by the chicken coop. Parked up in my loft window with a book, a drink, and my pipe. Felt like Lee Harvey with my rifle hanging out the window. Waited for a couple hours. He finally comes up. First shot was so low power I thought I got a squib. Sounded like a cap gun. Was aiming for his head, but it hit him somewhere in the chest.
He did that thing that hit animals do when they don't know they've been hit. Hopped a few feet away and stood up looking around. Had to hold my spotlight in my teeth. Went to tap him in the head, nothing. Rechambered, and next one felt like a cap gun too, low power. But he definitely knew he got hit that time. Ran off into the underbrush.
Went out to look around for a bit, lots of nice bleed but couldn't find him. Blood trail quit out, think he maybe hit a tree or found hole. Gonna take my hound out tomorrow to make sure.
But I have avenged my chicken's eyeball.
Edit: No blame for Aguila, they are still top tier. Went to look into my loose .22lr rummage box, found a label. Looks like I loaded up with CCI subsonics. So they did exactly what they were supposed to. I might buy more, forgot I even had them. They were so quiet I though the gun squibbed and wouldn't have known it went off if not for the sparks at the end of the barrel, and my wife directly underneath me downstairs thought I had dropped something on the floor. These things are based and I take back my sour words.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

Ladies and Gentlemen......we got him.
Though this is the first bad batch of Aguila 22 lr. I've had. Loaded it up in grandpappy's WW2 mossberg. I set out some meat fat over by the chicken coop. Parked up in my loft window with a book, a drink, and my pipe. Felt like Lee Harvey with my rifle hanging out the window. Waited for a couple hours. He finally comes up. First shot was so low power I thought I got a squib. Sounded like a cap gun. Was aiming for his head, but it hit him somewhere in the chest.
He did that thing that hit animals do when they don't know they've been hit. Hopped a few feet away and stood up looking around. Had to hold my spotlight in my teeth. Went to tap him in the head, nothing. Rechambered, and next one felt like a cap gun too, low power. But he definitely knew he got hit that time. Ran off into the underbrush.
Went out to look around for a bit, lots of nice bleed but couldn't find him. Blood trail quit out, think he maybe hit a tree or found hole. Gonna take my hound out tomorrow to make sure.
But I have avenged my chicken's eyeball.
Edit: No blame for Aguila, they are still top tier. Went to look into my loose .22lr rummage box, found a label. Looks like I loaded up with CCI subsonics. So they did exactly what they were supposed to. I might buy more, forgot I even had them. They were so quiet I though the gun squibbed and wouldn't have known it went off if not for the sparks at the end of the barrel, and my wife directly underneath me downstairs thought I had dropped something on the floor. These things are based and I take back my sour words.

+1 for aguila, it done for this squirrel pretty well.

 

[HarblMcDavid]

the standard Benelli M4 barrel comes with a Modified and it uses either Mobil or Optima Plus (or Crio Plus) chokes.

That's the word I was looking for, 3 notches, that one.

Personally I got a 6 inch barrel extension which is Mobil male side and Crio female side since my M2 came with a full set I didn't pay extra for, so I can use the resulting visual abortion to piss off the fogies with their fancy O/Us and they can't do shit about it.

 

[Troon_Patrol]

I'm a fan of Aguila but you want my opinion Norma is great, and ELey makes the best 22 ammo around. When it comes to pests the .45 grain subsonic works just beautifully out of well made Form 1 and and Ruger Mark3 homemade copy. My dog had a pissing match with a racoon and by the time I ran outside the racoon had left but I kept 20 rounds of 45 grain subsonic for the Coon and haven't had problems since.

I should mention the The CCI "AR-tactical" stuff, terrible marketing only a tard with a eotech on a .22 LR would buy but, it's cheap, works great and not terrible accuracy for a bulk box of .22s.

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

Ladies and Gentlemen......we got him.
Though this is the first bad batch of Aguila 22 lr. I've had. Loaded it up in grandpappy's WW2 mossberg. I set out some meat fat over by the chicken coop. Parked up in my loft window with a book, a drink, and my pipe. Felt like Lee Harvey with my rifle hanging out the window. Waited for a couple hours. He finally comes up. First shot was so low power I thought I got a squib. Sounded like a cap gun. Was aiming for his head, but it hit him somewhere in the chest.
He did that thing that hit animals do when they don't know they've been hit. Hopped a few feet away and stood up looking around. Had to hold my spotlight in my teeth. Went to tap him in the head, nothing. Rechambered, and next one felt like a cap gun too, low power. But he definitely knew he got hit that time. Ran off into the underbrush.
Went out to look around for a bit, lots of nice bleed but couldn't find him. Blood trail quit out, think he maybe hit a tree or found hole. Gonna take my hound out tomorrow to make sure.
But I have avenged my chicken's eyeball.
Edit: No blame for Aguila, they are still top tier. Went to look into my loose .22lr rummage box, found a label. Looks like I loaded up with CCI subsonics. So they did exactly what they were supposed to. I might buy more, forgot I even had them. They were so quiet I though the gun squibbed and wouldn't have known it went off if not for the sparks at the end of the barrel, and my wife directly underneath me downstairs thought I had dropped something on the floor. These things are based and I take back my sour words.

Sounds a lot like you were shooting CCI Quiets, that stuff is a 40gr slug going 710FPS, so about 45FPE. That'll still fuck shit up, but a solid bullet going that slow doesn't do any real damage.
CCI Suppressor HP is some good shit, should get you a really good pop on a red squirrel even from a pistol.

I just finished off a case of Federal AM I got from Brownells when it was on sale for 5.2CPR shipped last year, and just bought 5.5K of Aguila. The AM had lots of FTFs through like 5 guns and had lots of subsonic shots out of a 20 inch barrel, so definitely not getting that again.
I shot lots of Aguila like 10 years ago when I had my first .22, so hopefully it's as good as I remember. Could cut a sunflower off it's stem at like 60 yards with that stuff.

 

[DocAwe]

If you really want quiet non suppressed .22 AGUILA still makes the COLIBRI stuff.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Sounds a lot like you were shooting CCI Quiets, that stuff is a 40gr slug going 710FPS, so about 45FPE. That'll still fuck shit up, but a solid bullet going that slow doesn't do any real damage.

That's what the CCI Quiet Segmented HPs are for.

Speaking of Aguila and subsonics, I got a few packs of the 60gr 950fps ones and they keep keyholing in everything I've got. Anyone found a good barrel length/twist combination for those?

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

I'm fucking floored how quiet those were. So quiet I thought they, or the rifle, were broken. Now I want to get an MP5 .22 and a suppressor with those quiet bullets. I really think you could get the movie psspsspss level of noise from it.

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

That's what the CCI Quiet Segmented HPs are for.

Speaking of Aguila and subsonics, I got a few packs of the 60gr 950fps ones and they keep keyholing in everything I've got. Anyone found a good barrel length/twist combination for those?

Those look good, but unless sound is a big deal and you don't have a can, I'd get something else for that price. You're also pretty limited on range without whipping out a phone app or dope card after ranging the critter.

I've shot those with decent success from a Savage MKII youth rifle I chopped the barrel on and a 20" Green Mountain AR upper I built. Also seems to run in my Buckmark which was pretty surprising, but they're near unobtanium so I haven't shot many from that gun to group them officially.
But then they don't shoot at all from my father's Savage B22 or Mossberg 702, so I think it really depends. Weird that they work in a cheaper gun from the same brand, no idea really. Easy to find out if they're good in your gun, but
I think they suggest an 18+ inch barrel with at least a 1-16 twist, but it seems like one 1-16 twist barrel will work better than a different 1-16 barrel .
Maybe they'd work well from a CMMG kit going through an AR-15 barrel, but I've since machined mine to work with dedicated rimfire barrels.

Wish they'd make them more often/as cheap as they were pre kung flu, they're probably my favorite bullet.
I machined a .22 resizing die with different punches, and one of them is a needle looking one that travels 7/8 down the 60gr Aguila slug. Makes a pretty kickass hollow point that seems to react nicely in synthetic clay.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Those look good, but unless sound is a big deal and you don't have a can, I'd get something else for that price. You're also pretty limited on range without whipping out a phone app or dope card after ranging the critter.

Yeah I wouldn't use them past 20-30 yards, it's just a pest control thing.

I've shot those with decent success from a Savage MKII youth rifle I chopped the barrel on and a 20" Green Mountain AR upper I built. Also seems to run in my Buckmark which was pretty surprising, but they're near unobtanium so I haven't shot many from that gun to group them officially.

I tried them a couple of 10/22s with barrels ranging from 12.5" to 16.5", one of those folding Chiappa things with the plastic sights, a buddy's Remington 597, all keyholed. Didn't try it in any pistols yet, that would be an interesting test.