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“He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side"
Yes, you see, when you're dealing with a very powerful person with a very open secret, you can't just make an announcement: "Hey this guy likes fucking kids or getting evidence of powerful Americans fucking kids for his masters in Israel." You do so discreetly. There are LOTS of examples of this in every industry that only make sense in hindsight.

"Many of them are on the younger side" was Trump making a public statement that he knew what Epstein's game was. I imagine that single statement resulted in Epstein doing the calculus -- have Trump killed, work harder at getting blackmail material on him, or avoid him.
 
I disagree with the analogy because your drug dealer has a different motivation - he wants to get money from you. Epstein wanted to get leverage (on behalf of his Mossad handler Maxwell). He had a vested interest in pushing underage girls on you. That doesn't mean everybody who went to the island did, I agree with you there. But I think attempts were made. Can be quite planned out as well. I recall someone saying how at a party you'd have various of-age women flirting with you but the one who approached to actually sleep with you was the older-looking but underage one they slipped into the pack. Or if it's someone who think's they untouchable then maybe they don't bother with that and just say "hey, come for the weekend, we have jailbait". Depends who you are, really. But the goal is kompromat.
Great point I was thinking of Epstein more as an influence peddler when the grift was definitely built on blackmail and manipulation.
Not like I’m a big Kevin Spacey fan but I do believe he was telling the truth here (and oblivious to it). It’s not like everyone knew that Epstein was pimping out kids. I think those who did know were ones who were in fact guilty and then you had people who knew (and Trump did say that Jeff “liked em young”) but that doesn’t make Trump, Clinton, Gates, etc diddlers.

I mean if you want to believe QAnon theories that all the elites are fucking child raping Moloch Worshippers that’s your mindset. I just think it’s more shades of grey. Not everyone who travels to Bangkok is there to fuck children, a lot of them are, a lot of them want Ladyboy dick, finally some of them want normal whores. Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are definitely sexpest but I think they like normal hoes.
 
In particular is the shade that the anchor threw, seconds after the show started, shitting on CNN for "not fact checking Trump" and basically not openly rigging shit to protect Biden full-stop.
If they wanted to fact check they could have started with the blatant and easily refuted lies Biden came out of the gate with of "Trump told people to inject bleach" and later the "very fine people" lie, both of which Biden stated as fact.

There were other lies and misrepresentations Biden spoke but those two would have been trivial for CNN to fact check.
 
Do you have evidence of this? The photos seem to provide a clearer picture of his association. Plus it's not like anyone else who was around Epstein got such a free pass. Is Stephen Hawking's math dwarfs really more believable?
How catastrophically stupid does one have to be to not realize that if they had even an inkling, even a hint that Trump was actually involved with Epstein, that they would have went with that instead of trying to create 3 separate trials based on bullshit and legal chicanery?
 
I'm watching MSNBC for the laughs, and Morning Joe is like a wake. It's so nice to see. Joe just droning 'but he just lies' and all the rest going this is the worst they've seen it.

McCaskill just said 'People are worried Joe Biden will allow Trump to take over'. Bitch, he's going to take it. There's no 'allowing' going on.
 
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I'm watching MSNBC for the laughs, and Morning Joe is like a wake. It's so nice to see. Joe just droning 'but he just lies' and all the rest going this is the worst they've seen it.
Their strategy seems to really be "don't believe your lying eyes" and pretending that Trump just lied and poor wittle Biden only had one minute for rebuttals (Joe was unable to even meet the bare minimum standards for debating, let that sink in). So they're just having to gaslight everyone with "but orange man LIEDDDDD!"
 
In particular is the shade that the anchor threw, seconds after the show started, shitting on CNN for "not fact checking Trump" and basically not openly rigging shit to protect Biden full-stop.
The left openly masturbates to the recordings of that one debate where the moderator stepped forward to fuck over Romney for Obama. They DREAM of the same thing happening in a Trump vs Sack of Pudding debate.

I'm watching MSNBC for the laughs, and Morning Joe is like a wake. It's so nice to see. Joe just droning 'but he just lies' and all the rest going this is the worst they've seen it.

McCaskill just said 'People are worried Joe Biden will allow Trump to take over'. Bitch, he's going to take it. There's no 'allowing' going on.
It's "allowing" if you can take steps to prevent it. Like discovering a truckload of ballots at 4 AM.
 
I slept like a fucking baby last night.

This is pure cope coming from across the aisle today. They are panicking. The media has repeatedly lied to people about everything concerning Joe Biden.

They've said this is a good economy and some people were able to convince themselves of that despite their own experience because maybe they just thought they were in a tough spot.

But they also swore up and down; Biden is absolutely fine. The clips are out of context. No wait, they're fake! Deepfa- err, Cheap fakes! Biden is sharper than ever!

Then they put him and his rapidly filling diaper in front of America for two hours. They did this with all of the handicaps his camp requested and on an extremely biased network.

The viewers then watched the sitting head of the United States repeatedly forget what the point of his sentence was mere seconds after he started them. They shattered that comfortable denial that Democrat voters have been working hard to maintain for 4 years as the world is falling apart.

I feel vindicated for every retarded conversation I had to endure about Biden. I feel optimistic.
 
I slept like a fucking baby last night.

This is pure cope coming from across the aisle today. They are panicking. The media has repeatedly lied to people about everything concerning Joe Biden.

They've said this is a good economy and some people were able to convince themselves of that despite their own experience because maybe they just thought they were in a tough spot.

But they also swore up and down; Biden is absolutely fine. The clips are out of context. No wait, they're fake! Deepfa- err, Cheap fakes! Biden is sharper than ever!

Then they put him and his rapidly filling diaper in front of America for two hours. They did this with all of the handicaps his camp requested and on an extremely biased network.

The viewers then watched the sitting head of the United States repeatedly forget what the point of his sentence was mere seconds after he started them. They shattered that comfortable denial that Democrat voters have been working hard to maintain for 4 years as the world is falling apart.

I feel vindicated for every retarded conversation I had to endure about Biden. I feel optimistic.
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I'm getting as sick of hearing 'lies' all the time. It's meaningless unless you point any out. Just saying 'everything he says' is a lie as well. 'Liar' and 'Lies' has turned into 'threat to Democracy' of twaddle now.
Exactly. And its why the attempt to do it will fail. The debate was just too memeable, clips from it -are- spreading like wildfire. This results in:

A few friends with TDS already kinda switched into that. "Joe didn't do great but Trump couldn't answer a single question, he kept rambling about other random stuff and avoiding questions."

But at the same time, they were openly horrified at how bad Joe did. I genuinely think they didn't realize how bad he was until that very moment. They had categorized the "Biden has dementia" as "misinfo" from the "bad guys" and just auto-rejected it... until they couldn't ignore it anymore.
This is the fun thing about this debate. It is part of why this falls in the "unmitigated disaster" territory. For people who were using at as their judge of Biden's abilities it is truly eye opening. Even if someone hates Trump, if they were at all on the fence or unsure about Biden they are now -damn- sure about Biden. And For people who wanted to see if Trump was as bad as claimed... it really is a golden sunshine halo for him. He looked presidential while also giving better than he got and never descending into open namecalling... like Biden did.

The result of this debate will be an absolutely driven down voter Turnout for Biden. I don't think Trump will really -gain- too much support, but just Biden losing support will drive up Trump's numbers. I'd expect to see a sizeable bump in third party numbers too.

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I've been watching all these despairing Left Wing pundits and people in mild befuddlement and it's just clicked why. These people actually had expectations of better. My expectations were so low that when Biden opened with quick pace of speech and coherent sentences, I considered him to be doing well. To me, getting through with only losing his train of thought a few times was a victorious performance for him. But these commentators actually thought Biden might win, or actually thought he wasn't in cognitive decline.

It's slightly shocking this morning to see the despair in these people, because I hadn't actually realised they had hope.
 
It's slightly shocking this morning to see the despair in these people, because I hadn't actually realised they had hope.
Oh they certainly did. They were telling themselves Biden would come up, raise his hands like he was gonna duke Trump, then go 'psssh' and swagger to the podium. They really thought it was Trump with dementia and all this cheapfake shit. That's why this is a particularly good schadenfreude session.
 
Exactly. And its why the attempt to do it will fail. The debate was just too memeable, clips from it -are- spreading like wildfire. This results in:


This is the fun thing about this debate. It is part of why this falls in the "unmitigated disaster" territory. For people who were using at as their judge of Biden's abilities it is truly eye opening. Even if someone hates Trump, if they were at all on the fence or unsure about Biden they are now -damn- sure about Biden. And For people who wanted to see if Trump was as bad as claimed... it really is a golden sunshine halo for him. He looked presidential while also giving better than he got and never descending into open namecalling... like Biden did.

The result of this debate will be an absolutely driven down voter Turnout for Biden. I don't think Trump will really -gain- too much support, but just Biden losing support will drive up Trump's numbers. I'd expect to see a sizeable bump in third party numbers too.

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My buddy is terminal TDS. He told me he will not be voting in November after the debate. They're circling the drain. Ignore the cope from the left, everybody needs to openly talk about being excited to vote for Trump. This isn't a silent majority play.
 
I am amused just how much left-wing cope is about how much Trump repeated himself. Completely missing the point that the people actually using the debate as means to decide their vote either didn't care how Trump performed or were very interested in the economy and potential WWIII. Trump was absolutely playing to a very specific crowd and otherwise letting Biden just -disintegrate- live on air.
 
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