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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
There was a banger of an outbreak in Germany about... 15 years ago?

The German government did their thing of tracing the outbreak and all that, and they reported that the most likely cause of the outbreak was migrant seasonal workers, hired to pick crops, refusing to use the toilet facilities on site because they were paid by weight-picked, and stopping to walk to the toilets and back cost them money.

The overwhelming majority of UK fruit and vegetable produce is picked by migrant seasonal workers. You'll remember the government had to give them a special exemption from, er, any form of immigration control in 2017 and onwards, because otherwise the UK's crops were going to literally rot in the fields. Pre-Brexit, the farmers just gave six to twelve weeks' work to the gypsies, I mean the Romanians and Bulgarians, but now they need a special class exemption to bring over thousands of unskilled peasant workers every spring, summer and autumn, to sleep ten to a room.

Anyway, I digress. The UK has a different solution to the problem of toileting its vast migrant agricultural workforce.

The farmers aren't legally required to provide any toilet facilities, so... they don't. Or handwashing facilities. The pickers just drop trou and shit directly amidst the produce, and then keep right on picking with their shit-covered hands. This is the normal state of production and packing of our native produce. Covered in smears of gypsy shit.

It's actually testament to the amount of irradiation, I mean 'cold pasteurisation' that UK produce goes through that big e.coli outbreaks aren't more common. Mild 'food poisoning' is usually put down to dodgy meat by the public, but the major vector for it is fruit and vegetables.

This is why I eat mostly chips.
The USA is no different in its use of migrant laborers to pick crops. Unfortunately ours come from places worse than the Balkans, and by that I mean Latin America.
 
If Reform were to win I don't think they would know what to do with themselves. Farage is good at picking fights from the sidelines, but I don't think he has ever expected to be prime minister. It would be funny if it happened though. The rise in temperature at the Guardian offices would be a welcome source of renewable energy.
Just have to look at his record as a MEP, he had the second worse voting record of all of them, only person who did worse never turned up. I'm just waiting to see how lazy he will be as a MP for Clacton.

But I could see Farage wanting to be the leader of the conservatives, but as PM, don't see him wanting that responsibility.
 
How are we defining 'worst'? Because, quite honestly, voting as an MEP is largely an act of masturbation anyway
worst as in turning up the least to vote, he had about 40% attendance, still it was his job which he was paid for.

But exclusive analysis of the MEP voting records shows that Mr Farage only turned up to 40.7 per cent of all possible roll-call votes between July 2014 and May 2016.


This places him 745th out of 746 MEPs from across the different EU countries on the register.


The 746th is Brian Crowley, a MEP in Ireland who has never voted, according to the register.
 
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Just have to look at his record as a MEP, he had the second worse voting record of all of them, only person who did worse never turned up. I'm just waiting to see how lazy he will be as a MP for Clacton.

But I could see Farage wanting to be the leader of the conservatives, but as PM, don't see him wanting that responsibility.
What's the context here? How many votes applied to things that mattered to the UK? If only 40% of the votes would impact our country and 60% was for else where why should Farage be voting at all? These global institutions are often full of small petty national disagreements and we have no reason to deal with them.
 
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Makes sense, in an accelerationist sort of way. He wanted the EU to be as bad as possible because he wanted Britain to leave it.
That is the purpose of Farage. He's not a force of creation, he is a weapon of political destruction. He would make an absolutely rancid Prime Minister, but that doesn't matter because he won't be. Reform is the hammer and Labour is the anvil to smash the Conservative party into tiny little pieces until it can start again untainted by WEF uniparty bullshit, rent-seeking corrupt grifters and senile old farts.

The Tories need to be destroyed, for their own good. So do Labour, but we won't get the opportunity to do that in this election so the best we can do is eliminate this useless Tory party so that we can have something better. It's happened before, in Canada in 1993 but also recently with the rehabilitation of the Right in France, Italy and the Netherlands, but you can't do that until you cut away all the dead wood. Sometimes you can't even do that and you just cut down the tree and plant another one.
 
You're insane if you think this will kill the Tory party any more than the last election killed Labour. This is normal bongistan politics. You get 10 years to fuck everything up before the other side gets their turn. Neither party ever gets reformed because the choice isn't A or B. It's A1 or A2.
I agree Tories won't be dead, and likely will be the opposition party, but there is a good chance they will be below 100 seats now., so size of the lose is where it is crazy. Where the Tories go depends on what they do after they lose, the party needs some change, be it going more to the middle or more to right, also need to get rid of Liz Truss much like Labour got rid of Corbyn, the public at large hate her and is just a noose around the Tories neck if they don't get rid of her.

Labour unless they massively fuck up are getting two terms at least. So Tories got 5 years to sort themselves out and get back some of the seats they lost, then got another term to get try and get back in power. If they fail to get back seats in the next election, then they will be dead, and open for another party to come and become the next opposition party.

I do agree won't see a full reform of the parties, unless normal people join the parties and vote for the people they want to lead them. For worst that is how Corbyn became leader of the Labour party, rather than MP thinking he was the best guy for the job.
 
also need to get rid of Liz Truss much like Labour got rid of Corbyn, the public at large hate her and is just a noose around the Tories neck if they don't get rid of her.
Liz dindu nuffin. All she did was wrong was to have too large a number of semi-radical ideas in the same Budget, which spooked TPTB. Had she spread them about a bit, or done it after an election, no-one would have batted an eyelid.
 
I do agree won't see a full reform of the parties, unless normal people join the parties and vote for the people they want to lead them.
You vote for who they let you vote for and then they will boot them out and put someone else in place if they get ahead of their station. You think you can manipulate the tory party which isn't possible. Do you think any conservative voters were wanting all the progressive stuff shoe horned in? Of course not.
 
What’s strange is how muted IRL discussion is about this. I’ve had nearly zero conversations about the elections.
The only people I've heard talk about it are my parents, who's stance is "I'm sick of hearing about it" and complaining about Labour putting so many leaflets through the door. My Dad used to go on about the Brexit party when that was a thing, but he's never mentioned Reform, at least to me.
 
As a slight break from all the political stuff: https://archive.ph/KMMzo

A security guard accused of plotting to abduct, rape and murder TV presenter Holly Willoughby has admitted in court his chat room messages were "dark" but there was "no plan" to carry them out.
Ms Wass also asked her client about two bottles of chloroform he had bought.

"Did you intend to use it to incapacitate anyone?" she asked.

The defendant replied: "No."

He added that it had been purchased to clean a "large stain next to my fridge".
He added that in 2014 he gained an interest in bondage during sex.

Mr Plumb claimed that was why he had hand and ankle shackles, a rope and a ball gag at his home when the police arrested him in October 2023.
Fucking lel
 
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