US "We are f***ed": Democrats despair over Biden debate performance

From CNN's Kasie Hunt
24 min ago

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Biden speaks during the CNN Presidential Debate on Thursday. John Nowak/CNN

Democrats are despairing over President Joe Biden’s debate performance Thursday night, a showing so halting some even privately raised questions about whether he should remain the party’s nominee.

Biden appeared onstage with a soft, halting voice and an open-mouthed, staring look. He struggled to finish thoughts at points, and ceded ground on issues like abortion where Democrats have an edge.

It took just minutes for Democrats to realize how bad it was becoming.

“Biden looks and sounds terrible. He’s incoherent,” one Democrat who spent time working in the Biden administration said.

“Horrific,” said another Democratic operative.

And one Democrat who’s worked on campaigns up and down the ballot said simply: “We are f***ed.”

The looming question as the debate came to a close was almost existential: Should someone else top the Democratic ticket?

“It’s hard to argue that Biden should be our nominee,” said an operative who’s worked on campaigns at all levels for over a decade.

This debate was historic for many reasons, but not least because it is taking place before each man is formally nominated at their respective conventions. The Democratic National Convention is set to convene August 19 in Chicago.

Democrats have spent much of the past year handwringing about Biden’s chances of beating Trump in an election many view as an existential one that will decide the very survival of American democracy. But Biden himself was determined to be the one to take on Trump, at one point even saying directly: “If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running.”

No serious Democratic challengers stepped up to run against Biden, and at this point in the campaign he’d have to decide to step aside if Democrats were to pick another nominee. If Biden did withdraw, the Democratic nomination would be decided on the floor.

Democrats were even talking about who it might be instead: “If I was Gavin (Newsom) or Gretchen (Whitmer), I’d be making calls tonight,” one said.

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The same people who were crying about Trump being a convicted felon were also calling to Abolish The Police a few years ago. Restorative justice for me but not for thee.
Well said! If there's only one reason I don't take these people seriously, this is it.

Let's be honest, there's plenty of reasons to dislike Donnie Dipshit but at least he can speak in complete sentences and has some degree of cognition still going.

I have yet to see the whole thing but from what I'm gathering, it doesn't look good for "the big guy."
 
Say it ain’t so Duke!
I can't believe that CNN of all channels uploaded this, and with what commenters are describing as "porn music."

This is the sort of thing some YouTube shitposter mixes up for laughs, not something a credible news media organization would post.
 
I can't believe that CNN of all channels uploaded this, and with what commenters are describing as "porn music."

This is the sort of thing some YouTube shitposter mixes up for laughs, not something a credible news media organization would post.
How much choco choco chip do you expect for it to take the big man down from the throne?
 
Chauvin will get released from prison. huge widespread riots again and then Michelle Obama will run. I'm starting to think dems actually have don't have some apocalyptic scheme up their sleeves and either just don't know what to do or they actually want Trump back in office for whatever reason.(more clickbait headlines/content for media).
Late last night odds had almost narrowed between Biden and Newsom ( who is a large favorite for replacing Biden). They are starting to trend back in the other direction though.
 
I can't believe that CNN of all channels uploaded this, and with what commenters are describing as "porn music."

This is the sort of thing some YouTube shitposter mixes up for laughs, not something a credible news media organization would post.
It's the same channel that accidentally put up parody videos instead of the intended soft content. It's not that competent.
 
Worse, any politician that replaces Biden is sacrificing his/her career, since they WILL lose in November barring significant higher order fuckery. Can you think of anyone in the Dem party willing to sacrifice their power and wealth for the good of the party? Clinton won't. Michael Obama won't. Bernie won't. Who else could it be? It can't be white or male, the progressive wing believes they race and gender retconned the position and thus the left can never run a white male for the position again.
This is actually a good point. It would be political suicide.
Maybe they will have to stick with Biden after all.

They surely must realize they will lose the election no matter what so what would be the point to send someone else out there and have their career destroyed.
 
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Worse, any politician that replaces Biden is sacrificing his/her career, since they WILL lose in November barring significant higher order fuckery.
I agree. Its the career gamble of your life if you go for it.

Newsom won't take it. He's primed for 2028. Running as a replacement would destroy his chances and image.
Michelle likes her family and lifestyle too much to go for it. She saw the attacks on Barry and won't want to get involved in the shitshow.
Bernie is too old. I think he had a shot for replacement before the debate and age became a real big issue.
Kamala can run, but her loss is assured.
Hillary might be the best option as she has nothing to loose but it will be a rerun of 2016 again and Im not sure if she could take another election loss.

Assuming they replace Biden next week, you have to fundraise, get your name and image out there, meet people non-stop, give speeches, debate, and somehow convince the voters to like you, deal with a shitty economy, wars and identity politics that has gone unchecked under the current Biden admin. It has to be someone young and likable and if you have those traits, you're not risking it to save a fast sinking ship. Its Joever.
 
I thought we all knew Biden was a mess since before he got elected but Democrats were just ignoring it cause they hated Trump so much, but then why acknowledge it now? I mean he wasn't good during the debate but he's had plenty of worse moments, so what changed? Were they actually delusional this whole time and thought he was fine for years?
 
Were they actually delusional this whole time and thought he was fine for years?
Short answer: Yes.

They only see those pictures that are 8-12 years old. They never see his face up close. They always seemed to have filters on Sleepy Joe before that debate, but they didn't have anything but the Orange Filter on the Teflon Don.

The bumbling was "HE HAS A STUTTER" and all of that. Clips showed him hale and hearty.

Then they see a decript old man who is obvious senile.

It shattered what they had been told was reality.
 
Why did the put all their eggs in the dementia patient basket?
Why didn't they just have someone else run for 2024?
I can answer this.

another kiwifarmer I dont remember who made a good point.

Trump was impeached over ukraine.

Zelisky talks to trump mentions that biden and his son were up to shit in his country, and would trump like them to look into it.

The very next day biden says he wants to run for president, the official narrative was evil orange man was asking forgien powers to interfer with political rivals.

Covid and the hysteria about orange hilter got the old herd moving in one direction and goal get rid of trump!
 
Why do people honestly want Newsom to run? The DNC should know that if he took on the other 49 states, they would call him out on the downward spiral that is California, especially this year.
He's literally the only notable Democrat that hasn't:
>blown their load already on the national stage
or
>been a complete and unable-to-hide spastic retard
In any real competition, his goose is cooked once the California stats start popping up. Any primary will tarnish him completely. There's just too much on him to attack.
 
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