Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

[Angry Crustacean]

Absolutely fuck maulskull. I’m in the skydeep cenote and my party keeps getting wiped by the red arrow attack. The NPC’s are idiots and don’t get in the middle. Now I have to run through the dungeon again with players.

I had no problem with Duty Support on Maulskull last night.

 

[ChromaQuack]

I'm just amazed at how this MSQ throws itself off a cliff at the end; I have a very high tolerance for bullshit but that retarded Living memory cutscene with the water fountain show was the first time I hit the skip cutscene button; what a bunch of needless bullshit right on the last few quests of the expansion, it's all padding, padding, padding. I hate the living memory segment so much I might just skip it entirely if it keeps throwing these timewasters out.

 

[EmpGulcasa]

I'm currently going through Living Memory in bursts because it's so dull and irritating to me. Why are we humoring Wuk Lamat and stopping to get to know the people in each area before we delete them? There's a literal genocidal plan aimed at your home that is time sensitive and you're doing this bullshit? This could have been handled so much better.

I would probably be skipping more cutscenes, but some quests don't even have a proper summary in the log anymore.. they just sit on a useless line like "Wuk Lamat wants to do X" instead of explaining what I missed. It's infuriating.

 

[ChromaQuack]

Ok so done with it, I despise the last segment enough to give it a special score :

It ranks below Post-EW, I give it a 0/5 and I hope whoever wrote it steps on Legos barefooted and finds their toothpaste uncapped every single night of their lives.

Hateful rambling ahead, you've been warned.

You know it's real easy to boast about how 'Oh dawntrail will have more cutscenes than even endwalker! when you do shit like what I just experienced with the frankly idiotic timewaster that is helping Otis putting up a play for children RIGHT BEFORE THE WORLD ENDING PLAN GOES INTO MOTION. He asks to promote this play and tells you to wear animal costumes which you do.

Ok so first cutscene is his asking and Trooncat being put on an elephant costume to which the cutscene ends, so normally you'd click him and get a transform from the NPC and go around your merry way to finish the objective yes? Well no, not with MORE CUTSCENES THAN END FUCKING WALKER you don't, you have a separate goddamn cutscene showing how YOU put on the costume. Why yes, I imagine it's real easy to boast about numbers when you pad them out like this, not the only time it happens either

Sphene, Sphere, whatever the fuck her name is might possibly be the worst fucking thing I have ever seen Square shit out, it's yet another attempt at playing the ascian plot of "they are doing it for their people and from their perspective they are entirely justified so you're not going to talk them out of this" except now instead of playing this off of characters that have been around 10 years and you could grow to understand, am I supposed to pretend this utter vile bitch is just 'doing it for the good of her people' with a plan that's miles worse than whatever the ascians cooked out, would end up in the total erradication of life and is seen as wrong by her own people just because she's SO SAD and she CRIED and troonlion plus krile go out of their way to say "oh yeah, well we have people we want to save too so it will have to come to blows" like she has ANY OF THE FUCKING JUSTIFICATIONS THE ANCIENTS DID.

IT IS LITERALLY THE SAME PLOT POINTS FROM THE LAST DECADE OF THE GAME REHASHED POORLY, WHAT WERE THEY FUCKING THINKING? AM I SUPPOSED TO PRETEND THIS ISN'T DOLLAR STORE ASCIANS AND ANCIENT ALLAG BECAUSE THE FUCKING CHARACTERS TOLD ME SO?

To close, the entire living memory segment is intolerable, it's asinine, even the map music is irritating. As far as I'm concerned this expansion ended when we beat Lizard Jotaro.

Fuck whoever wrote the last segment of this expansion. There's two more damn areas in this map to go through, God above help me.

Edit : Going through the third segment to delete in Living memory, so at this point I find this quest to intolerable I'm skipping cutscenes and barely event paying attention to the text, right?

So what does this game decide to do? it makes you go through a museum, but not at your own pace no no no, you are dragged kicking and screaming by an obnoxious guide, you then get to a second chamber in said museum and this fucking game has the audacity to introduce a fucking quiz.

A quiz in a segment that's so FUCKING ASININE MOST PEOPLE ARE GUARANTEED TO BE SKIPPING IT.

THEY KNOW IT'S FUCKING SHIT, THIS WAS PUT THERE ON PURPOSE, NO FUCKING WAY YOU INTRODUCE A GODDAMN QUIZ IF NOT TO CHECK IF THE PLAYERS ARE ACTUALLY READING. YOU CAN'T EVEN ANSWER WRONG AND MOVE ON, YOU VILL DO THE QUIZ AND YOU VILL LIKE IT! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

THEY EVEN PUT INVISIBLE WALLS IN THE TERRAIN SO YOU CAN'T SKIP JUMP INTO SECTIONS OF THE GIANT MUSEUM YES I LOVE RUNNING FOR FOUR MINUTES IN A CIRCLE WHILE THE GRATING BACKGROUND MUSIC MAKES ME WANT TO FEED WHOEVER IS PLAYING THE FLUTE AN ENTIRE ORCHESTRA.

 

[Fcret]

Yeah I'm gonna have to put this down for a day or two. The pacing is such a slog that I'm finding myself spacing out looking at shit on my other monitor rather than following the dialogue closely. I don't need to talk to people to assess the extent of the damage - the big bad dome thing is right there on the map, let's just fucking walk to it.

Luckily I took the entire week off (not for DT specifically but I figured I'd schedule my summer holiday and DT together), so I should be able to force myself through the last three levels of MSQ by next Monday.

I guess we'll see come 7.1 but I would not be surprised if the LuckyBancho numbers are dismal for 'active characters at level 100 with 7.0 MSQ cheevo'

 

[Angry Crustacean]

The old west zone's boring plot got me to start skipping cutscenes, and I am having a blast making up my own story to explain what is happening, 10/10 highly recommend.

 

[Well Intentioned]

Already watched someone go fucking insane and try correcting people that Beast Tribes are now Allied Societies. Damn near invoked the idea of dead naming, had to point out Gaius calls them that in his monologue at the end of Praetorium, so it's still a proper name for them. Get called a bigoted, don't deny it... I fucking hate people who play this game.

With Gaius, it makes sense given that he views everyone in Eorzea as savages.

However, when you do your little walk around with Lyse in Stormblood, she makes the same reference when talking about the snake ladies.

I'm currently going through Living Memory in bursts because it's so dull and irritating to me. Why are we humoring Wuk Lamat and stopping to get to know the people in each area before we delete them? There's a literal genocidal plan aimed at your home that is time sensitive and you're doing this bullshit? This could have been handled so much better.

I would probably be skipping more cutscenes, but some quests don't even have a proper summary in the log anymore.. they just sit on a useless line like "Wuk Lamat wants to do X" instead of explaining what I missed. It's infuriating.

Sounds like hyperbole from someone who lacks media literacy.

 

[Kheapathic]

With Gaius, it makes sense given that he views everyone in Eorzea as savages.

However, when you do your little walk around with Lyse in Stormblood, she makes the same reference when talking about the snake ladies.

I honestly don't really care (and don't remember that about Lyse); but the amount of fucking weirdo progressives and their shit is fucking outlandish. Sure, racism is bad or whatever, and sure the beat tribes have a new name; but holy fucking shit, stop trying to be the proper noun police in game. You already laugh about making racists and sexists seethe by existing as a tranny or whatever, I'll bite my tongue on that, because that's a one-way ticket to Eorzea jail, but come the fuck on. These people are fucking insufferable.

Edit: Just did the Tritoch (Trial 1) fight, fucking intense.

 

[ChromaQuack]

Sounds like hyperbole from someone who lacks media literacy.

Please tell me you're quoting reddit or twitter, after the last segment of the game my brain is so fried I am unable to detect sarcasm.

Story spoiler:Because I don't need no damn media literacy to know that living memory is the equivalent of slowly pulling the plugs out of an entire world on life support while still finding the way the writers pulled it off trite and obnoxious.

 

[Well Intentioned]

Please tell me you're quoting reddit or twitter, after the last segment of the game my brain is so fried I am unable to detect sarcasm.

Story spoiler:Because I don't need no damn media literacy to know that living memory is the equivalent of slowly pulling the plugs out of an entire world on life support while still finding the way the writers pulled it off trite and obnoxious.

Nah, the person I responded to has been making snide comments about critique of the MSQ.

There's a lot of issues with Dawntrail's story, IMO. Poor characterization, lots of stretching out of quests and dialogue, etc.

It's falling pretty flat for me thus far (I'm in the 98 MSQ range), and I'm not sure it's going to get much better.

There was a lot of care in building up and fleshing out Tural as a living, breathing place, but it feels like they disregarded a lot of established stuff and are basically doing wish.com not-Allagans/Ascians.

E: Also, a supposed summary of JP players comments:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscussion/comments/1dsh2wq/japanese_reception_to_dawntrail_msq/

Some highlights:

What happened to the Yoshida who immediately killed Moenbryda? Please kill Wuk Lamat I'm begging you

Emet Selch came to this no fun place. Is he an idiot?

From start to finish it's just problems caused by low IQ lizards, maybe slaughtering all the savages wasn't such a bad idea

Stop forcing me to watch an unskippable cutscene where literally nothing happens, I'll kill you

 

[std::string]

Yeah I'm gonna have to put this down for a day or two. The pacing is such a slog that I'm finding myself spacing out looking at shit on my other monitor rather than following the dialogue closely. I don't need to talk to people to assess the extent of the damage - the big bad dome thing is right there on the map, let's just fucking walk to it.

This shit actually reminds me of ARR sidequests. Click on questgiver, walk five feet, click on questgiver again, pick up thing on ground, click on questgiver again.

Also each story beat needs to be explained like four fucking times because apparently every scion spent the downtime between EW and DT repeatedly bashing their heads into concrete and now they're retarded.

 

[ChromaQuack]

Good lord, even redditors are cooking the MSQ and DT defenders.

It's joever.

Spoiler

 

[Kheapathic]

The claims of "media literacy" never cease to amaze me, the only thing stopping them from sound like conspiracy theorists is their belief that they're correct. You don't need to be media literate to fucking enjoy something, and it's okay to enjoy things for the wrong reasons, and it's okay to dislike something for a reason outside of big brain media literacy. And sometimes, this seems really hard for them to understand, you can like or dislike something, for a reason you can't comprehend, just that it does or doesn't hit you the right way. You don't need to write a five paragraph essay about what you dislike, you just know that it didn't get or hold your attention; I don't really give a shit about the Mona Lisa in an artistic sense. I like that it's a very old painting that still exists; but I'm not gonna fart huff about brush strokes, color choice, DaVinci's intent, and all that other shit, it's just some fucking woman.

 

[Angry Crustacean]

Absolutely horrifying.

edit:

Spoiler: I made it to this city, and...

Why do the inhabitants all look like troon twitter avatars?

 

[EmpGulcasa]

Last section of the last zone.. it's almost over.

 

[Soycast Guy]

I got past the old west town and yeah so far this expansion is complete shit story wise. CBU3 has shown before that they can write a good story with heavensward, shadowbringers, and FFXVI. This is absolutely not it. As I’ve said before, the story of this game ended with Endwalker. They have no idea how to write after the conclusion. And obviously due to the nature of the game being an MMO, it can’t have an end, so now the story just logically can’t make sense.

 

[RIPRhongoBongo]

At this point, I'm just watching better people than me clear the EX Trials. I'm just grinding to 100 to see how long it'll take me to get skill-checked

 

[Übertroon]

Whoever casted the new voices for english needs to be fired.
The troon cat, too many small characters with deep voices and big characters with light voices, everyone speaking in ridiculous hispanic accents.

 

[Shiba Lurker]

Whoever casted the new voices for english needs to be fired.
The troon cat, too many small characters with deep voices and big characters with light voices, everyone speaking in ridiculous hispanic accents.

God yes, those Indian/Hispanic accents in EW were so jarring, sounding like some doing a fake accent while slurring their words at times; I wanted to for a while, but I finally made the switch to Japanese voices as soon as I heard trooncat. I literally winced as soon as she started talking (before even knowing it was a troon), and it seems that a lot of people agree that it's just an awful performance. It's a shame cause I feel so much more disconnected from the voice-acted cutscenes now that I can't just sit back and enjoy them without reading, but at least it brings back some believability back to the scene.

Otherwise this expansion so far has just been booooringggg, poorly written, and overall 'safe'. to me It's a shame that I started playing during Shadowbringers, because that has been by far my favorite expansion (especially love the chapters leading up to the expac). I see people complaining about Stormblood and I have to wonder if they mean the disjointed story specifically? I would rather have that then this absolute snooze fest.

 

[Rungle]

Whoever casted the new voices for english needs to be fired.
The troon cat, too many small characters with deep voices and big characters with light voices, everyone speaking in ridiculous hispanic accents.

Small characters with deep voices are funny as shit.
Most male lalafells have them in JP.

Also... EA ends now.
The story will be now in the majority of players their hands.
Waiting for the meltdown...