US "We are f***ed": Democrats despair over Biden debate performance

From CNN's Kasie Hunt
24 min ago


Biden speaks during the CNN Presidential Debate on Thursday. John Nowak/CNN

Democrats are despairing over President Joe Biden’s debate performance Thursday night, a showing so halting some even privately raised questions about whether he should remain the party’s nominee.

Biden appeared onstage with a soft, halting voice and an open-mouthed, staring look. He struggled to finish thoughts at points, and ceded ground on issues like abortion where Democrats have an edge.

It took just minutes for Democrats to realize how bad it was becoming.

“Biden looks and sounds terrible. He’s incoherent,” one Democrat who spent time working in the Biden administration said.

“Horrific,” said another Democratic operative.

And one Democrat who’s worked on campaigns up and down the ballot said simply: “We are f***ed.”

The looming question as the debate came to a close was almost existential: Should someone else top the Democratic ticket?

“It’s hard to argue that Biden should be our nominee,” said an operative who’s worked on campaigns at all levels for over a decade.

This debate was historic for many reasons, but not least because it is taking place before each man is formally nominated at their respective conventions. The Democratic National Convention is set to convene August 19 in Chicago.

Democrats have spent much of the past year handwringing about Biden’s chances of beating Trump in an election many view as an existential one that will decide the very survival of American democracy. But Biden himself was determined to be the one to take on Trump, at one point even saying directly: “If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running.”

No serious Democratic challengers stepped up to run against Biden, and at this point in the campaign he’d have to decide to step aside if Democrats were to pick another nominee. If Biden did withdraw, the Democratic nomination would be decided on the floor.

Democrats were even talking about who it might be instead: “If I was Gavin (Newsom) or Gretchen (Whitmer), I’d be making calls tonight,” one said.

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No, the TEA Party was the right wing Occupy. And it was killed largely by the same methods.

There hasn't been a right wing Antifa. The Proud Boys and similar groups were quasi-attempts at that, but lacked the conviction to carry through and were largely a fake grifter org to begin with.

The right simply doesn't have the institutional power to get away with their own version of Antifa, and the conservative default towards peace and respect of authority makes it largely impossible to ever form a real Antifa-analogue anyway.

Both the Tea Party and OWS were predicted by the powers that be. Project for the New American Century or something similar I think was the name of the think tank, and it was a veritable who's who of NeoLib and NeoCons, aligned with the idea that a populist uprising would be very bad for business.

The real concern was that a Tea Party like group and the Occupy like groups might discuss things with each other and realize the real problem was the Rich Elites fucking everyone over and join forces. So they openly warned of that threat and discussed methods of destroying them.

Enhancing the political divide was part of it. Tea party was destroyed by keeping them out of the realms of power and then making them into jokes and fools -- basically ignoring them to death and relying on the existing indoctrination to keep righties from doing anything. Occupy was destroyed by gently pushing forward Cultural Marxism and then mocking it -- I remember Colbert doing an interview with someone we now recognize as a batshit insane Woke dyke, but back then was a laughing stock.

The problem is, as always, the powers that be think systems are static unless acted upon by them, and that second order knock-on effects do not exist. Pushing Cultural Marxism to destroy the OWS was supposed to end there, Marxist groups weren't supposed to use that as a away to gain power in the US.

Edit: As an aside, Google Gemini has had it's ability to do anything political disabled until after the election, if not later.



But Bing knew right off:

 

[Betonhaus]

 

[Ghost of Biden]

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Timothy needs to jerk off before drawing Kamala.

 

[cigint]

Doesn’t the reaction and panic of Dems prove that the election is NOT rigged?

If Dems were skilled enough to rig elections and get away with it, a bad debate performance would be irrelevant.

Depends what you mean by rigged. There's about 0 chance that no election fraud takes place and took place in the last election. So what's a rigging -- when this fraud is organized by someone?

There comes a point when your candidate fucks up so badly you can't repair the situation with a conveniently timed sack of ballots that gets found in a tactically situated swing state, where all the ballots in the sack just happen to be votes for Biden. And ostensibly their panic could be because this is pretty close to such a point.

 

[Betonhaus]

Please don't get my hope up we still have four months to go

 

[adam_moche]

Remember during the primaries when CNN and other networks wrote off Biden at the start? They don't like Biden and never have. The American black voters chose Biden over the candidates from the 3 letter agencies and diversity hires. So the pozzed crowd were stuck with Biden. They want someone who represents the neo-liberal coastal faction of the democratic party.

But most normal people don't like southern Californians. They're weird. They're entitled. They have bad manners and a high handed attitude. Think Megan Markle. Or Kamala Harris.

 

[FrancineCansMcGee]

Confirmed by both Bill O'Reilly and Charlie Kirk now. The best sources for inside the Biden inner circle information we have in all of journalism. It's all over, wrap it up folks. It's time to start talking about the Biden campaign in the past tense. Cue up Yub-Nub, Biden is done. MAGA has blown up a second Democratic Death Star.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

Remember during the primaries when CNN and other networks wrote off Biden at the start? They don't like Biden and never have. The American black voters chose Biden over the candidates from the 3 letter agencies and diversity hires. So the pozzed crowd were stuck with Biden. They want someone who represents the neo-liberal coastal faction of the democratic party.

But most normal people don't like southern Californians. They're weird. They're entitled. They have bad manners and a high handed attitude. Think Megan Markle. Or Kamala Harris.

Kamala's from Berkeley.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

A serious problem the Democrats have if Joe does bow out to Kamala, they'd need to find a new VP candidate. None of the candidates that should probably be the nominee want to run this year already, so why would anyone worth a damn want to shackle themselves to a dumpster fire that would be a Kamala Harris presidential run?

There's also another issue that just having Joe drop out would raise a lot of questions about his fitness to continue the rest of his term as POTUS. As awful as it may seem, their best course of action at this point is probably to stick with Biden and just accept the loss while putting themselves in position for 2028.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I don't ever want any politician anywhere in America to run unopposed, but if Trump ended up running unopposed my sides would achieve escape velocity.

 

[Betonhaus]

A serious problem the Democrats have if Joe does bow out to Kamala, they'd need to find a new VP candidate. None of the candidates that should probably be the nominee want to run this year already, so why would anyone worth a damn want to shackle themselves to a dumpster fire that would be a Kamala Harris presidential run?

There's also another issue that just having Joe drop out would raise a lot of questions about his fitness to continue the rest of his term as POTUS. As awful as it may seem, their best course of action at this point is probably to stick with Biden and just accept the loss while putting themselves in position for 2028.

Jill Biden as VP?

I don't ever want any politician anywhere in America to run unopposed, but if Trump ended up running unopposed my sides would achieve escape velocity.

if he runs unopposed we can definitely look forward to riots and a color revolution

 

[Betonhaus]

Biden's emergency meeting to shore up Dem support implodes https://archive.is/wip/DcBQA​

• The emergency meeting lasted just over an hour at the White House Wednesday
• Many of the governors professed their support for Biden's fading candidacy
• Others sniped at the notion that their backing of the president was universal

Joe Biden's emergency meeting with Democrat governors to shore-up support has hit a huge obstacle after one leading lawmaker was accused of lying.


New York's Democrat Governor Kathy Hochul offered unanimous support for the ailing president, 81, after the meeting - but other politicians in attendance say that she had no right to.

And another female Democrat governor - Janet Mills of Maine - pulled no punches in blasting Biden over last week's dreadful debate performance after he tried to soothe them by saying he'd been given a thumbs up from a medical checkup earlier this week.

Mills directly told Biden she had no problem with his age but that she felt he wasn't up to run against Donald Trump, while Ned Lamont of Connecticut asked what his path forward was, citing a need to make the case to his constituents.

Both governors questioned whether he could even beat Trump in their states, according to sources in attendance. A Democrat hasn't lost Connecticut or Maine since 1988

 

[Michael Wade]

A serious problem the Democrats have if Joe does bow out to Kamala, they'd need to find a new VP candidate. None of the candidates that should probably be the nominee want to run this year already, so why would anyone worth a damn want to shackle themselves to a dumpster fire that would be a Kamala Harris presidential run?

There's also another issue that just having Joe drop out would raise a lot of questions about his fitness to continue the rest of his term as POTUS. As awful as it may seem, their best course of action at this point is probably to stick with Biden and just accept the loss while putting themselves in position for 2028.

Believe it or not but according to poso Kamala favors Pete Buttigieg.

 

[High-Fructose Corn Syrup]

Harris does worse against Trump than Biden does.
So do dems want to lose by 8 points or only 6?

Jill Biden as VP?


if he runs unopposed we can definitely look forward to riots and a color revolution

The police, national guard and military would see that their "color revolution" wouldn't last more than a night.

 

[Dr J]

So do dems want to lose by 8 points or only 6?

If Rasmussen is to be believed (big 'if') they're already losing by 9

 

[High-Fructose Corn Syrup]

If Rasmussen is to be believed (big 'if') they're already losing by 9

Pretty soon the only voters the Dems have left will be the white libtards. We all know they will vote for them no matter what. See desTINYs recent meltdown on piers Morgan.

 

[Molly Millions]

The police, national guard and military would see that their "color revolution" wouldn't last more than a night.

Lol. Lmao even. I remember thinking those things.

It's time to move past this boomer mindset.

 

[Betonhaus]

Disney heiress vows to stop Democratic donations until Biden stands aside​

A Disney heiress has threatened to stop all donations to the Democratic party unless Joe Biden is replaced as its candidate, saying that “the stakes are too high.”

Abigail Disney, a long-standing donor to the Democrats, hailed the president as “a good man” who had served his country “admirably,” but warned that the GOP would win in November if a change of leadership was not made.


Disney, the granddaughter of Roy O Disney who founded the company with his brother Walt, is the latest high-profile person to speak out publicly about Biden stepping down, following his disastrous performance in the presidential debate with Donald Trump last week.

The president has said he has no plans to withdraw from the race, despite multiple calls for him to do so.

In a statement shared with CNBC, Disney said: “I intend to stop any contributions to the party unless and until they replace Biden at the top of the ticket.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

Believe it or not but according to poso Kamala favors Pete Buttigieg.

How's the transportation sector been the last 4 years?

Shipping, highways, and trains have all shit the bed.

The job was a sinecure and he fucked it up.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

They're all fine with him being senile. They're just mad they can't hide it anymore. That's why they're insisting he not run, but not asking him to resign. They get to keep their animatronic president until January 2025.