Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[perry 23 tack]

I liked the part where he literally leaves the room for like 20 seconds and then comes back and thinks in silence for more 10 with no explanation. Like, its just so silly it got me chuckling.

The timestamp for that moment is 5:40 to 6:20 and yeah, funniest shit ever.

 

[LucasSomething]

That's... more popular than i expected...

 

[didelphigina]

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That's... more popular than i expected...

This is what Vivziepop wanted. She knew making this stupid ship would bring in a majority of her audience. It's literally the backbone of this show at this point and it feels so good knowing it's starting to crack as even the most diehard fans are starting to get sick of it all. But the crack's only slow but surely since a good majority of the fanbase is still into Stolitz.

2-Pentius never actually got his own episode or even his own plot, he just kissed cherri and died and we're supposed to feel bad. Cherri also suddendly hugging charlie when she's first presented as a bad influence who doesnt care about the hotel.

God, this still upsets me. Not a single episode specifically related to Pentious despite he's the only character in the show who had a ""redemption arc"". We know little to NOTHING about him other than he's just Dr. Doofenshmirtz but as a snake.

HOW are people genuinely thinking the first season had ANY sort of real progress when there was no actual progress to BEGIN with??

Can't wait until Season 2 when we actually get to see a glimsp of Sir Pentious life that'll be poorly shown and commit the worst case of "Telling, not showing" in history.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Christ, you know it's bad when even the biggest Spindle horse dick suckers like iox and ayylmao recognize the show has declined.

Also, glad that he acknowledged that the views have dropped as this whole show goes on.

Remember that in the few weeks of "Murder Family" it made about several ten million views in less than a week (about 50-70 billion if I remember correctly. Checking the Wayback Machine it made more than 10 Million on its premiere. Compare that to the recent "Apology Tour" episode, which took about a month to make 10 Million views. You could just say it's because it's not the hottest trend anymore so YouTube ain't promoting it as much anymore, but it's more likely that viewers have just gotten tired of the gay bird sailor swear opera pumping out more repetitive shit than a Disneyland ride jingle so they checked out because they know that this episodes' plots are gonna be the same thing over and over again.

By Season 3, the show will probably struggle to even make episodes reaching 10 Million views. By Season 4, episodes won't crack more than 5 Million if they're lucky.

Well, next episode is going to be another assassination episode , so will get away from the Stolitz drama for at least a little bit...then again it's also the episode that is supposed to be the one where Millie commits suicide unless they changed that scene. Kind of hope they don't because because the shitstorm that will ensue will be more hilarious than any joke they could come up with.

Speaking of the Ghostfuckers episode, unless it's a flashback episode, why does Blitzø not have an actual human disguise in the trailer? He has the Asmodeun crystal now. I know that he is supposedly retarded and there's the running gag that most humans are too stupid to realize they're actual demons but....oh, who am I kidding? If the showrunner doesn't care about their own rules, I shouldn't either.

 

[Roger Dennis]

@InJailOutSoon if Millie commits suicide, won’t she just come back?

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

@InJailOutSoon if Millie commits suicide, won’t she just come back?

No, because demons can die in this universe. Yes, it's as stupid as it sounds

 

[InJailOutSoon]

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SpindleHorse, Vivienne's company that animates HB, announced today that they're shortstaffed and are hiring new clean-up animators. Seems like Vivzie is losing animators left and right. It's as if the people working there know that the show is going downhill and they're jumping ship.

The autistic side of wants me to apply and see first-hand what it is like to work for SpindleHorse...but the rational side knows that is a pretty stupid thing to even think about.

 

[Resident Knievel]

Woah you hate something that's popular? God damn you would have been a revolutionary thinker if this was the internet circa 1999.

Cringey losers who make hating popular things their entire personality are insufferable one note dumbasses who are incapable of saying anything interesting or intelligent, they're the ones who need to "get over it".

hey what if i killed you with a rock would that be "revolutionary?" Like Cain and Abel? Or I guess you would be dis-Abel'd

 

[didelphigina]

The autistic side of wants me to apply and see first-hand what it is like to work for SpindleHorse...but the rational side knows that is a pretty stupid thing to even think about.

I would not like to be forced to draw or assist in something I clearly am not satisfied seeing. I can imagine at least one of the people drawing or helping assist with the plot of the show are in their head going, "Vivziepop, please... we can only do so much with this shipping stuff... please... actually give real plot to this rotting series... or at least, have Stolas be held accountable for his actions and not coddle him because he's your creator's pet... please..."

But, I'm just being optimistic here.

No, because demons can die in this universe. Yes, it's as stupid as it sounds

I mean, that could work out if there were any actual explanations towards it all. We're just told this and nothing else added about it. Really only proved more that Hell in her universe's just a red Earth.

 

[LucasSomething]

why does Blitzø not have an actual human disguise in the trailer? He has the Asmodeun crystal now. I know that he is supposedly retarded and there's the running gag that most humans are too stupid to realize they're actual demons but....oh, who am I kidding? If the showrunner doesn't care about their own rules, I shouldn't either.

I dont think Vivzie doesnt care but i think her priority is elsewhere. She wants them to be like Team rocket where they have funny shitty disguises each episode for the sake of the joke, even if it makes everyone in universe look retarded.

She sees the IMP (as a group) more as a funny mascot trio than real characters risking their lives on the job.

 

[Roger Dennis]

If only…

 

[Hammersmith]

I found a thread on twitter about the 'transactional relationship' between Stolas and Blitz. It's from a Stolas stan, so I was curious to hear their arguments about why this 'relationship' works. Why not check it out? What could go wrong?

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(If you're having trouble reading the pictures below, use the archive link for a better view)

Spoiler: Thread

Oh. Nevermind. It's basically absolving Stolas of all guilt and putting the blame squarily on Blitz. The poor, poor owl boy is innocent! He acts this way because [insert Stella's abuse argument here], [insert arranged marriage argument here] and because he watched a lot of soap operas (lol?). Bold of this guy to assume that because Stolas met Blitz once when they were children, he now considers them 'childhood friends'. And he also claims that they mutually liked this agreement (lol, lmao). Holy shit, how can you ignore reality this much to keep saying Stolas dindu nuffin? I also like how the guy conveniently forgets that Stolas was constantly demeaning Blitz at every opportunity.

This puts the final nail in the coffin for me; Stolitz defenders are simply unreasonable.

Reminder that the NDAs over working conditions on the show expire this month.

I can't wait for the clout chasing threads to crop up to spill the deets about Vivzie's working conditions. Should be a great harvest.

 

[Tablet County]

There was a show kinda like that, actually.

Is it weird that I like that show's theme tune?

 

[Clancee]

And he also claims that they mutually liked this agreement (lol, lmao).

Never underestimate the mental gymnastics of Stolas stans, man. Or fujos.

 

[LucasSomething]

This puts the final nail in the coffin for me; Stolitz defenders are simply unreasonable.

This shipper is either lunatic or actually insidious.



1-No nigga nooo? Stolas didnt do it out of "respect", he was effectively blackmailing Blitzo.
2-HE STILL OWES ROYAL SHIT. That's ltierally how the deal works. Stolas holds all the power in this "transaction".



This person was either sucessfully gaslit by vivzie or is gaslighting us. Imagine unironically thinking Blitzo was in a "win" situation and loved being Stolas fuck slave. I thought most stolitz shippers at least awknowledge they started toxic but not this one.



>Blitzo wasnt forced because he accepted the deal!

That's not how blackmailing works you retard. Does this look like a man who chose to live like this?

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Does this look like a man who chose to live like this?

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All i can see is the fucking puppy glowing eyes and the complete faggines of this thing.

 

[perry 23 tack]

Reminder that the NDAs over working conditions on the show expire this month.

I hope once these all come out, that the biggest commentary channels like SomeOrdinaryGamers and Turkey Tom cover the Spindlehorse's degeneracy. It will be to the point that even ayylmao and iox cannot use plausible deniability to defend the studio anymore.

 

[Trollblade69]

Watching HH episode 7. Something about the songs just feels...wrong. I don't know what it is, though. Is it square-peg-round-hole nature of the lyrics to the situation? Is it all the improper rhymes and verse timing? Or do I just not like musicals that much? I know I skipped all the songs in Ghost & Molly McGee because I felt like the lyrics were way too cringe for me.

Also why does the power of song restore Vaggie's wings?

 

[perry 23 tack]

Watching HH episode 7. Something about the songs just feels...wrong. I don't know what it is, though. Is it square-peg-round-hole nature of the lyrics to the situation? Is it all the improper rhymes and verse timing? Or do I just not like musicals that much? I know I skipped all the songs in Ghost & Molly McGee because I felt like the lyrics were way too cringe for me.

Also why does the power of song restore Vaggie's wings?

No, I don't think you not liking musicals is the problem, it's mostly just the tendency of a lot of the songs in Hazbin to start right the hell out of nowhere with no smooth transition. I think Ghost and Molly McGee sort of does that too, but not to HH's extent.

A lot of the songs also reveal to us info we already know sometimes or could have been better said in dialogue. See "Hell's Greatest Dad". We already know Lucy and Al hate each other based on their first interactions, we didn't need a whole song dedicated to that. "Whatever It Takes" says to us stuff that could have just come across in dialogue but instead wraps it up in a discount Simple Plan song.

 

[didelphigina]

>Blitzo wasnt forced because he accepted the deal!

That's not how blackmailing works you retard. Does this look like a man who chose to live like this?

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I know the word gets thrown around to just say at anyone, but I think this person is legitimately media illiterate. I've never seen so much mental gymnastics from a pro-Stolitz person in WEEKS, hooh, God. Did he completely ignore the first episode and how Blitzo just accepted the deal cause he didn't want to die to Martha? I just... man, arguing with a pro-Stolitz stan is not worth it, man. People like them are already beyond saving in regards to them having critical thinking skills.

They'll be the kind of person still defending Stolitz even when/if (BEING VERY OPTIMISTIC HERE) more people are against it than supporting it in the late future. I can already see it.

Also why does the power of song restore Vaggie's wings?

Because darn you, plot armor.

A lot of the songs also reveal to us info we already know sometimes or could have been better said in dialogue. See "Hell's Greatest Dad". We already know Lucy and Al hate each other based on their first interactions, we didn't need a whole song dedicated to that. "Whatever It Takes" says to us stuff that could have just come across in dialogue but instead wraps it up in a discount Simple Plan song.

One of the bigger issues I have with the musicals is how separate they really feel from the show. Wasn't this supposed to be some r-rated show filled with more swearing than real character progression? Why does the song with Charlie and Sir Pentious feel like a song I'd hear on PBS kids? Why does Respectless feel so ingrating and useless? Why does "Whatever it Takes" completely ignore the fact that Dazzle DIED? I still cannot comprehend everyone, including Lucifer, casually ignoring they lost one of their "pets" and pretending they never existed?

I don't know anymore. The musicals should've been told off. Hazbin Hotel is NOT the show to fit a musical into, especially in terms of progression, worldbuilding, and character growth.