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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[isalaide]

@AssignedEva This explanation is brilliant and I am sorry more people will miss it, hidden away down in this thread. Any chance you might crosspost it into the election coverage thread?

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

Scotland is REALLY over represented in parliament

This isn't the case anymore - they fixed this in 2005 or 2010. The Jocks got more seats per capita as a consolation prize for the Act of Union, but this was reversed after devolution.

we did have a referendum about potentially introducing an alternative voting system but it was quashed by the Conservatives launching a campaign arguing that we should be building more maternity wards instead of trying to do electoral reform.

It was quashed by the pro-AV side being shit. Very few people thought that AV was an improvement on FPTP.

 

[Fools Idol]

The most retarded thing about Labour is that the two major groups who Labour are complete opposites of each other on social issues.

The first type are the basic bitch self hating white leftists. Typically over educated and middle class, these faggots make up the loudest voices on the Internet. The second is the low IQ peasants that make up much of the former manufacturing hubs of the UK. Poorly educated and racist, they are socially speaking somewhere on the right of Hitler.

Labour has to somehow manage walking a tight rope of making both equally groups unhappy but not too unhappy to lose another election. You can expect a lot of poor decisions in the next few years but if it's any consolation, it's nothing the Conservatives wouldn't have done too. I can't wait to remind all the plebs complaining about how many street shitting, machete wielding, child rapist immigrants are flooding the UK that they voted for this.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

The most retarded thing about Labour is that the two major groups who Labour are complete opposites of each other on social issues.

The first type are the basic bitch self hating white leftists. Typically over educated and middle class, these faggots make up the loudest voices on the Internet. The second is the low IQ peasants that make up much of the former manufacturing hubs of the UK. Poorly educated and racist, they are socially speaking somewhere on the right of Hitler.

Labour has to somehow manage walking a tight rope of making both equally groups unhappy but not too unhappy to lose another election. You can expect a lot of poor decisions in the next few years but if it's any consolation, it's nothing the Conservatives wouldn't have done too. I can't wait to remind all the plebs complaining about how many street shitting, machete wielding, child rapist immigrants are flooding the UK that they voted for this.

I disagree on your second group based on living memory of the last labour government.

The second kind are the benefit class, happy to import hordes to work, pay taxes and support their free home/ motability car with no regards for how they push down wages for working Brits.

 

[lanadelgay]

The most retarded thing about Labour is that the two major groups who Labour are complete opposites of each other on social issues.

The first type are the basic bitch self hating white leftists. Typically over educated and middle class, these faggots make up the loudest voices on the Internet. The second is the low IQ peasants that make up much of the former manufacturing hubs of the UK. Poorly educated and racist, they are socially speaking somewhere on the right of Hitler.

Labour has to somehow manage walking a tight rope of making both equally groups unhappy but not too unhappy to lose another election. You can expect a lot of poor decisions in the next few years but if it's any consolation, it's nothing the Conservatives wouldn't have done too. I can't wait to remind all the plebs complaining about how many street shitting, machete wielding, child rapist immigrants are flooding the UK that they voted for this.

The second group has already mostly left Labour though. They had been drifting away for years but Brexit was the straw that broke the camel's back. In 2019 the Conservatives won loads of seats in the North that had always been Labour because these people switched to Conservatives to 'get Brexit done'. This time round they've mostly gone to Reform, who have come second in most seats in working class towns across the North and Midlands, while Labour wins the seats with very low numbers of votes compared to the past.

The thing that has helped Labour get such a big majority is actually winning loads of seats in wealthier areas where they've never won before. Partly because the message of economic stability appeals to centrist Tories who would ideally like someone like David Cameron but can accept Keir Starmer. And partly because of demographic change, as the kind of people you describe in the first type move out of London due to high rents and lack of housing and bring their urban progressive attitudes to wealthier towns that used to be solid Tory

 

[3deadniggers]

Labour didn't win.
Everyone else lost.

If you're doom posting that labour will ruin everything even further you should remember we have a single political elite. The only difference is labour candidates are better at stealing bikes and lying since no one can understand their accents. Nothing else has really changed

 

[Spunt]

Including people eligible to vote but who didn't, over 80% of people in this election did NOT vote Labour. It was a win by default.

I'm working on a post on the election for my guide to Britain thread, but it will be a few days.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

I'm going to throw it out there, and I know this will rustle some jimmies, that disregarding the whole "thick northern lefty vs thicc southern centrist" thing Angela Rayner is objectively hotter than Penny Mordaunt

 

[Dolphin Fish]

Fuck the King

I thought that was your guy’s version of God Bless America. My bad. What do ya say?

 

[AssignedEva]

Including people eligible to vote but who didn't, over 80% of people in this election did NOT vote Labour. It was a win by default.

By that logic, all Governments we've ever had have won by default;
2019: 71% didn't vote Conservative
2017: 71% didn't vote Conservative
2015: 76% didn't vote Conservative
2010: 77% didn't vote Conservative
2005: 78% didn't vote Labour
2001: 76% didn't vote Labour
1997: 69% didn't vote Labour
1992: 67% didn't vote Conservative
1987: 68% didn't vote Conservative
1983: 68% didn't vote Conservative
1979: 67% didn't vote Conservative
You get the picture. There's never been a Government where over 50% of the electorate voted for them, because people don't vote.

This is the lowest turnout we've had since 2001 and there's likely a few confounding factors - people took it as a given Labour would win, so didn't bother voting (this includes people who would have voted for Labour if forced to vote), it's being held during summer when students have returned home and people are going on holiday (Students likely didn't bother re-registering and probably would have voted Labour if forced to vote) and there's been a colossal fuck up with postal voting, both with people in the UK and people who live abroad (although most of them probably would have voted against Labour if they'd been able to vote). Plus people getting turned away from polling stations for not having ID and not bothering to come back with it. And a depressingly large number of people who flat out do not care who the Government is and "don't do politics"

I don't think there's even been a Government with 50% vote share, unless you count 2010 when the Tories got 32% and the Lib Dems got 22%. The closest is probably Harold Wilson's Labour government that got 48% vote share.

 

[Spunt]

It's still the lowest percentage of voters voting for a government since WWII, much less a government that won a massive, crushing "victory". The electoral maths of this election is both unique and bizarre. Also bear in mind that Labour's vote share increased by less than 2% since 2019, and most of that increase was in Scotland where they benefitted from the SNP's implosion. The SNP did even worse than the Tories when you factor in the limited number of seats they stand in. I'm poring over the numbers for my effortpost and there's never been an election anything like this.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I thought that was your guy’s version of God Bless America. My bad. What do ya say?

You're right. It's just hip and edgy to say 'Fuck the King'.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Why cant Britain have a house of representatives voted in by proportional representation voting so then we can have 3 houses of government?

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

You're talking about a different type of conservatism. You're talking about small c 'conservatism', where the status quo is maintained. In that sense the Tory party are 'conservative', as mentioned they're simply Labour with speed bumps. What most critics of the Tory Party want is large C 'Conservatism', i.e. where they fight to preserve our traditions, culture, customs, values. The Tory Party is, in this respect, not remotely Conservative

How is preserving the 'status quo' not the same as preserving 'traditions, culture, customs, values' ? It's just that what they're preserving aren't the ones you want them to preserve. Conservatism Big C is famously ill-defined because everyone has their own definition of it and what it should be doing.

 

[FedPostalService]

It would be funny if the cancer went to the King’s brain and he instructed the army to initiate Order 66.

 

[Dr J]

How is preserving the 'status quo' not the same as preserving 'traditions, culture, customs, values' ?

Because the status quo is not those things, New Labour changed the status quo and the modern Tory Party have been largely committed to preserving New Labour's status quo. Look at David Cameron, who's a Pro-EU, pro-open borders globalist technocrat in the Tony Blair mould, and who actually sought to copy many of Tony Blair's policy positions, mannerisms, etc.

 

[gamer2014]

Jess Phillips (Labour) won by 693 votes and was booed and heckled by people yelling about Palestine as she tried to give her speech. Apparently it has been a really nasty campaign.
The runner up was Jody McIntyre of the Workers' Party. I assumed Jody was another lefty woman. No. This is Jody.

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Was that the same person involved in the 2010 student protests?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/dec/15/jody-mcintyre-protester-dragged-from-wheelchair

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

Because the status quo is not those things, New Labour changed the status quo and the modern Tory Party have been largely committed to preserving New Labour's status quo. Look at David Cameron, who's a Pro-EU, pro-open borders globalist technocrat in the Tony Blair mould, and who actually sought to copy many of Tony Blair's policy positions, mannerisms, etc.

Dude, no. New Labour was red tory / tory lite. OG Labour did originally join the EU but both sides supported it. Margaret Thatcher was pro-EU pro-bringing-in-immigrants way before New Labour. She resettled indian families into areas where there had been miners strikes to prevent them happening again. This has all been happening since way before Blair, that's why I said 'post-WW2'.

Jess Phillips (Labour) won by 693 votes and was booed and heckled by people yelling about Palestine as she tried to give her speech.

I'm going to say 'misogyny and racism' because Jess Phillips has been outspokenly pro-palestine; why the fuck would they assume that she wasn't pro-palestine except that she's a white woman who isn't Jody with the beard?

 

[Dr J]

Margaret Thatcher was pro-EU pro-bringing-in-immigrants way before New Labour.

Margaret Thatcher infamously hated the EEC. It's her successor, John Major, who wanted to deepthroat Euro cock, leading to the disastrous Black Wednesday among other things

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

Margaret Thatcher infamously hated the EEC. It's her successor, John Major, who wanted to deepthroat Euro cock, leading to the disastrous Black Wednesday among other things

The photo that I posted is famous for a reason, it's her pro-EU jumper. She was very pro-EU at the beginning when they first joined, she came to hate it about 5 years later because she was anti single currency.