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Some guy playing some FF7 mod. Then I noticed this and I chuckled to myself.
 

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Started playing ff4 (gba) now that I have an emulator on my phone. Still a great game, but I don’t remember it being this easy.

Even after forgetting half of what everything does, it doesn’t feel difficult. Not complaining though.
 
Karen said:
Started playing ff4 (gba) now that I have an emulator on my phone. Still a great game, but I don’t remember it being this easy.

Even after forgetting half of what everything does, it doesn’t feel difficult. Not complaining though.
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Supposedly the SNES version is even easier, though I found it to be a fair challenge way back. I never finished FF4 DS, I wonder where that one's difficulty sits.
 
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Supposedly the SNES version is even easier, though I found it to be a fair challenge way back. I never finished FF4 DS, I wonder where that one's difficulty sits.
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The cutting room floor article for FF4 has a fuckton of version differences listed including the original SFCM, Easy mode and the NA localization. The GBA remake is based off of the OG 4. The DS (3D) version is significantly harder than all other versions. Considering its half off on steam right now... ill buy it.
 
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The cutting room floor article for FF4 has a fuckton of version differences listed including the original SFCM, Easy mode and the NA localization. The GBA remake is based off of the OG 4. The DS (3D) version is significantly harder than all other versions. Considering its half off on steam right now... ill buy it.
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I guess they wanted it to be hard like the FF4 sequel then, I think they came out around the same time. Man, that game really kicks your ass in the final dungeon...
 
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I dumped around 130 hours into Rebirth and 100%'d everything minus the last Queen's Blood card game. Here are my stupid thoughts in no particular order.

I knew they'd cop out and keep Aerith alive in some form, she's too popular now to kill off fully. I agree that it messed up the end of the game narratively with the have the cake and eat it too idea. She should be dead for the rest of the trilogy, and only pop up again as a vision at the very end like in the original once Holy works. Now she's just going to pop up occasionally only to Cloud because she's the Aerith he saved in an alternate dimension that only he can see so he can have his ghost girlfriend hold his hand when he finally breaks down at the north crater? I still don't really see where they're going with this.

I don't really like the inclusion of Zack since he doesn't really add anything to the narrative and is currently only here so people can get fanservice fan fic shit like the Cloud and Zack vs. Sephiroth fight during the endgame. The whole Gongaga map sucked mostly and was just Crisis Core fan service and plot derail with Tifa getting eaten by the Weapon, felt unnecessary. The Zack VA is getting better but he still isn't as good compared to the old guy.

Gameplay wise I had a blast, it was better than Remake in just about every way. Combat is faster and fluid and it plays a lot more like a polished DMC/platinum game, which I like a lot. Every character has tricks and moves to learn and master and it's really obvious that the devs put a good chunk of time getting everyone fleshed out with specific roles while still adhering to equipment and materia set up. Solid combat system, tons of fun. Very interested to see how they make Cid and Vincent play in the next part.

Characters were on point for the most part and are still translated well from the original, minus Cid, who felt stilted and censored. Hopefully the Rocket Town portion of part 3 fixes this.

Was happy Gilgamesh was the secret super boss, love FF5 and seeing him pop up again in character as a goofy asshole made my day.

The game was largely enjoyable while playing it but it was a bit too much at times. Way too much shit to do. I don't envy the devs one bit for the amount of work they had to dump into this project. Production value is through the roof.

It's fine for what it is, I liked it better than Remake. But something still feels lost compared to the OG FF7.
 
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Here are my stupid thoughts in no particular order.
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I agree generally except with the first section.
Having thought about it there just isn’t a good reason to pretend there’s any meaning to keeping her dead. Her death is played as a joke, she’s insulted almost every day by brown-skinned gamer whores on social media because she interferes with their Bleached fetish, and it’s absurd to do fanservice for everyone else but the long time fans who like her because they actually played the OG and supported the franchise from the start. Nor is she more popular now than when she first died. And it’s because they kept the franchise going, essentially without her or writing her into corners. All of this made people see her as non-essential even though the series only became worse without her. Remember, the creators like her too and probably dislike the disservices done to her.
 
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I agree generally except with the first section.
Having thought about it there just isn’t a good reason to pretend there’s any meaning to keeping her dead. Her death is played as a joke, she’s insulted almost every day by brown-skinned gamer whores on social media because she interferes with their Bleached fetish, and it’s absurd to do fanservice for everyone else but the long time fans who like her because they actually played the OG and supported the franchise from the start. Nor is she more popular now than when she first died. And it’s because they kept the franchise going, essentially without her or writing her into corners. All of this made people see her as non-essential even though the series only became worse without her. Remember, the creators like her too and probably dislike the disservices done to her.
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I'm pretty insular and try to stay far away from fan sites or any twitter BS and based on what you said I'm glad I do.

In a lot of ways I'm happy with how Aerith turned out, her actress is good and she's got a ton of personality and sass. I'd say the remakes made me a bigger fan of her than the original did tbh.

My reaction to Cloud stopping the death scene was good but I saw the fake out coming, it did get my hopes up for a tiny moment that they would just break the script and just fucking do whatever moving forward.

I dunno. We'll have to see what they do with part 3 whenever it comes out. I am getting sick of fighting the 100th form of Sephiroth though. The endgame was a slog and the DPS check got me twice at the end before I pulled my head out of my ass and got with the program. I did the whole game on dynamic but I don't think I'd go through again on hard, way too much time commitment.
 
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I didn’t get the impression cloud stopped it in any timeline. I also don’t think that’s even Aeriths spirit or whatever appearing to him at the end. Idk overall to me they put enough of a leash on the kingdom hearts bullshit to make me like rebirth a whole lot more than remake; ending included
 
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I agree generally except with the first section.
she’s insulted almost every day by brown-skinned gamer whores on social media because she interferes with their Bleached fetish
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I confess that I am confused about this part though I get the rest. What is this in reference to, shipping wars?
 
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I didn’t get the impression cloud stopped it in any timeline. I also don’t think that’s even Aeriths spirit or whatever appearing to him at the end. Idk overall to me they put enough of a leash on the kingdom hearts bullshit to make me like rebirth a whole lot more than remake; ending included
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My guess is of the two Aeriths he saved one of them, from the alternate dimension where she was passed out next to the comatose Cloud. Either that or its a hallucination, but the game doesn't handle subtly all that much so I'd say we have an Aerith that made it and is still at the capital praying for Holy and hiding in gaps of dimensions like her church and shit after the team up with Cloud for the last boss. I'd interpret it that she's still here but can't touch the main plot so the whole remake idea can still hit the same plot points without her getting in the way. She's alive and dead at the same time which is how its a cop out.

They did manage to pull up a bit with the whisper nonsense and made it into more of the lifestream which worked well in making it less grating.
 
Hot Dog said:
My guess is of the two Aeriths he saved one of them, from the alternate dimension where she was passed out next to the comatose Cloud. Either that or its a hallucination, but the game doesn't handle subtly all that much so I'd say we have an Aerith that made it and is still at the capital praying for Holy and hiding in gaps of dimensions like her church and shit after the team up with Cloud for the last boss. I'd interpret it that she's still here but can't touch the main plot so the whole remake idea can still hit the same plot points without her getting in the way. She's alive and dead at the same time which is how its a cop out.

They did manage to pull up a bit with the whisper nonsense and made it into more of the lifestream which worked well in making it less grating.
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My interpretation is that these timelines are not all at the same time but that only one can occur at a time, meaning that they are comatose in the other because their souls can’t be active in two at the same time. I also think that it was showing that aerith dies in every timeline because sephiroth is tracking her down and killing her to ensure she can’t fight him in the lifestream. I enjoy it but it for sure feels like the writing is reaching schizo posting levels rapidly
 
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I just can't 'theory of mind' a way in which they decide to have principles on keeping her dead, after milking this franchise like they have and making it possible to timeline shenanigan her back to life. In universe that just sounds fucked up.
 
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Dr. Geronimo said:
So I thought about getting into FF11 since it seems to still be held in high regard but saw that the game still charges almost $15 a month play.

How do the fans justify that much for an over 20 year game? Is it just sunken cost fallacy to the extreme?
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Official servers suck, try the game via Horizon

HorizonXI

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Also supports RetroAchievements, if you're into that.
 
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