Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Illuminati Order Official]

it was also one of the worst spider-man comics of the last decade. a decade, which has exclusively had only bad spider-man comics.

I remember when Spider-man's Clone Saga was considered to be the worst thing one can imagine. Good times.

the last jedi is terrible but I will always have a little bit of respect for Johnson just taking a huge shit on TFA.

In my opinion,. The Last Jedi was the only movie in the sequel trilogy that had some potential to be good if Johnson wasn't a fucking retard.
1. Don't write humor if you are one of the least funny people alive.
2. Make Luke's fall make sense. For example: Luke went somewhere to look for something like it was established in TFA and what he found made him cut his connection to the Force - for example by bringing him too close to the dark side.
3. Casino shit - to the trash, from start to finish. Same with tracking McGuffin on the imperial ship.
4. Ship plot - make it a spy \ murder mystery. There is someone on the ship informing the imperials about rebels' next destination. Poe's team blames Holdo's team, Holdo's team blames Poe's team, we get some good The Thing style paranoia.

 

[The Ugly One]

you keep saying to this day that The Phantom Menace was crap yet people came in droves to see Attack of the Clones

They were hoping Phantom Menace was a mistake, and the Clone Wars was one of those throwaway lines in the original movies around which tons of EU content and insane fan hype had been built. Plus George openly said he'd learned not to overdo the CGI like he did in Phantom Menace. Since, at that time, there were three good Star Wars movies and one shitty one, we expected Attack of the Clones to right the ship.

It did not.

 

[Gondolindrim]

It's funny how I'm not even watching Acolyte but every clip and plot point I become aware of just screams low quality entertainment. Like the cheap lightsabers and the fight with a guy with impenetrable armor.

 

[The handsome tard]

They literally did the shirtless Kylo Ren scene but somehow even cringier and fem coomer-er

Oh but a Twilek showing some cleavage is toxic, remember guys.

What happened to Bad Robot Wars is actually worse, because the bailouts they got came from DEI-aligned companies and they're more totalitarian than the Chinese. The Chinese companies were just disappointed with Paramount's ROI, Blackrock/Vanguard demand everyone suck the space lesbian cocks.

So you what you are saying is that jewish globalists are somehow worse than chinese globalists?

Sounds about right.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

They were hoping Phantom Menace was a mistake, and the Clone Wars was one of those throwaway lines in the original movies around which tons of EU content and insane fan hype had been built. Plus George openly said he'd learned not to overdo the CGI like he did in Phantom Menace. Since, at that time, there were three good Star Wars movies and one shitty one, we expected Attack of the Clones to right the ship.

It did not.

Er, no. Most people loved both TPM and AOTC. It was only the critics and a vocal minority of the fans who hated them. Most of the fans were OK with them, and your average normie didn't give a shit; they sat through the political shit with bored faces, but then they enjoyed the lightsaber fights and big ground/space battles. Overall, the normies had fun, the fans had fun, and you just had a minority of loud asshole fans and critics being angry with it.

When it came to memorable scenes, people were in awe of the Darth Maul duel, and the Yoda/Dooku duel had people laughing their asses off and thinking it was awesome. It was only the uptight dipshits who were angry at the idea that Yoda can fight with a lightsaber, even though ROTJ had Palpatine call the lightsaber a Jedi weapon, and Yoda was a fucking Jedi.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Even the political scenes aged better than anything in the Sequel trilogy. You've got a corporation that represents itself in the Senate totally saying they did nothing wrong when they invaded Space Italy and it revealed just how weak the Republic is. Then people look to an authoritarian strong man to fix the massive succession crisis created by the corporations and root for the death of the Republic in the process. Fast forward to IRL, corporations are pseudo-countries that manipulate America into a lame and gay empire and wage wars in places no one's ever heard of for the vaguest of reasons while regular people root for anyone to fix this state of affairs and don't care much how it's done. And I don't agree with Lucas's politics or what he points as the causes. No, it isn't Nixon overthrowing the Republic. If anything, Nixon is Valorum and was forced to resign in disgrace by the Queen he tried to help.

The Sequel trilogy, even at its Platonic ideal, is fundamentally a childish understanding of society. The First Order are bad because Nazis. The New Republic is good because they get blown up. Rey is good because she can do no wrong. How did this state of affairs come to be? Just like everything else in JJ fiction, it doesn't matter. And I blame RLM for it because they complained about the space politics.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

They were hoping Phantom Menace was a mistake, and the Clone Wars was one of those throwaway lines in the original movies around which tons of EU content and insane fan hype had been built. Plus George openly said he'd learned not to overdo the CGI like he did in Phantom Menace. Since, at that time, there were three good Star Wars movies and one shitty one, we expected Attack of the Clones to right the ship.

It did not.

Even if that were right people still came a third time.

Contrary to corpo belief, people are not usually that stupid.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

I don't understand all those complains about political scenes. The movie is meant to show times of peace and prosperity, only hinting at something rotten just out of view. They couldn't have done a proper war so they went with the next best thing, that is a political crisis that turned violent. Sure, it should've been explained better but it's not as bad as some critics claim.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I don't understand all those complains about political scenes. The movie is meant to show times of peace and prosperity, only hinting at something rotten just out of view. They couldn't have done a proper war so they went with the next best thing, that is a political crisis that turned violent. Sure, it should've been explained better but it's not as bad as some critics claim.

They never bothered me and I never ever met a normal person IRL who was bothered by them. Normies were not bothered by them, and the fans I was aware of at the time appreciated the worldbuilding.

But I have also never met anyone who hated Jar Jar except normies and dum-dums who assimilated the meme after years of being hammered with it from pretty much every media available.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

They never bothered me and I never ever met a normal person IRL who was bothered by them. Normies were not bothered by them, and the fans I was aware of at the time appreciated the worldbuilding.

When the movie came out I was a little older than the target audience but despite not being interested in politics at all I could understand it perfectly - "greedy aliens allied with Sidious because they didn't get what they wanted in the senate and Sidious told them to start the blocade."

But I have also never met anyone who hated Jar Jar except normies and dum-dums who assimilated the meme after years of being hammered with it from pretty much every media available.

He wasn't as popular as Lucas wanted him to be, but he certainly wasn't as hated as he is now.

 

[Cyberpunk Meta]

I remembered the era of people hating on the prequel trilogy. I was never a Star Wars super fan (maybe just a casual viewer. I did watch a few of the old clone wars for example).

But looking at the stinking rotten turd that is the sequel trilogy, plus the new Disney Wars bullshit is aggrevating. I did nominally enjoy Andor and that’s because it doesn’t feel like Star Wars and it doesn’t have Dave Filoni’s mediocre writing in it.

I liked Star Wars for its nuanced storytelling. Yes the empire is bad but you can understanding why some characters willingly joined it, why people support it. The prequels as imperfect as they were gave is a good background about this nuanced storytelling: the Republic is corrupt, rotten, and easily subverted. Subtle actions such as Qui-Gon Jinn dying leaving to an inexperienced Obi Wan Kenobi unable to train the young Anakin and Anakin, who loses almost everything (his mother, his wife, and being permanently disfigured and turning to a cyborg monstrosity) leading him to the Dark Side. The Lucas era films tied in the films together, provided context, and are classics for a reason.

Contrast that with Disney Wars: lesbians, troons, and childish takes on politics. It’s lazy, stale, boring, and has turned the franchise into a steaming pile of shit. Even as a casual viewer, I’m sadden to what happed to this once great media franchise.

 

[Ghostse]

Even if that were right people still came a third time.

Contrary to corpo belief, people are not usually that stupid.

I get what you're trying to say, but my nigga, there people in this very thread watchign the Acolyte after being shit on for over a decade. Despite knowing it would be bad. They still give the Rat their wallets, their attention, and space in their brains. So I don't think applying normal logic to the abused wives that are Star Wars fans works.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I get what you're trying to say, but my nigga, there people in this very thread watchign the Acolyte after being shit on for over a decade. Despite knowing it would be bad. They still give the Rat their wallets, their attention, and space in their brains. So I don't think applying normal logic to the abused wives that are Star Wars fans works.

I'm not watching this show. I'm watching other people watch this show like Best of the Worst.

 

[The Ugly One]

Even if that were right people still came a third time.

"Might as well finish the trilogy." Plus friends who said it wasn't as bad as the previous two. And it wasn't! Still wasn't very good.

The sequels sold tons of tickets, too. Did everyone who saw RoS actually like TFA and TLJ?

 

[Ewan McGregor]

"Might as well finish the trilogy." Plus friends who said it wasn't as bad as the previous two. And it wasn't! Still wasn't very good.

The sequels sold tons of tickets, too. Did everyone who saw RoS actually like TFA and TLJ?

Title	Budget	Box Office	Inflation	Title	Budget	Box Office
The Phantom Menace	$115 Million	$1.046 billion	$1488.11 billion	The Force Awakens	$447 million	$2.071 billion
Attack of the Clones	$115 Million	$653.8 million	$890.83 million	The Last Jedi	$300 million	$1.334 billion
Revenge of the Sith	$113 million	$864.4 million	$1131.54 billion	Rice of Skywalker	$416 million	$1077 billion

 

[Shekelslovakia]

they are also total retards. I hate JJ Abrams, but I really can't blame him or anyone involved for the Rise of Shitwalker. they were really put in a corner with that movie. Star Wars has been divisive with sequels and prequels from day 1. but during the prequels the internet and social media were not the EVERYONE is on there bitching thing it had become by the late 2010s. the force awakens was a shitty attempt to pander to china and people who hated the prequels, the last jedi was an attempt to.. i don't know pander to people who didn't like star wars in the first place, and rise of skywalker was an attempt to pander to anyone who was still around. now if they had just made george's sequels, they frankly probably would have sucked. but at least there would have been a narrative arc, even if it was terrible. making 3 movies where you don't know what the next one is going to be until you make it might have worked in the 1980s but the fact they didn't script out all 3 from the jump was the worst possible decision and why they ended up the way they did.

Lucas should have just taken a year off in 1984 and then started work on the sequels shortly after with the first movie coming out in 1989 the second one in 1992 and the last one in 1995. Then he could take a few years off and then do the prequels. I personally believe that Indiana Jones and all his other side projects like Willow and the Ewok movies although good just delayed the inevitable of just waiting too long to pick up where the story left off.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Lucas should have just taken a year off in 1984 and then started work on the sequels shortly after with the first movie coming out in 1989 the second one in 1992 and the last one in 1995. Then he could take a few years off and then do the prequels. I personally believe that Indiana Jones and all his other side projects like Willow and the Ewok movies although good just delayed the inevitable of just waiting too long to pick up where the story left off.

No, trying to continue a story that had a happy ending was going to ruin it and back then, people saw unnecessary sequels as failures. Hence why Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money is the punchline. I'm aware that a lot of the EU is built around sequels (The Jedi Knight: Academy game certainly is), but it doesn't have the coveted G canon title because they could have diluted Star Wars as a brand much like how Police Academy sequels ruined that brand. So, as weird and counterintuitive as it seems, making Prequels or concurrent stories was the optimum solution.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

No, trying to continue a story that had a happy ending was going to ruin it and back then, people saw unnecessary sequels as failures. Hence why Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money is the punchline. I'm aware that a lot of the EU is built around sequels (The Jedi Knight: Academy game certainly is), but it doesn't have the coveted G canon title because they could have diluted Star Wars as a brand much like how Police Academy sequels ruined that brand. So, as weird and counterintuitive as it seems, making Prequels or concurrent stories was the optimum solution.

There was a lot of internal debate and sperging about Dark Empire potentially ruining both Luke and Anakin Skywalker's character arcs back in the day

 

[LovisXVI]

There was a lot of internal debate and sperging about Dark Empire potentially ruining both Luke and Anakin Skywalker's character arcs back in the day

Which is why doing another Dark Empire for the sequels was so surprising, I was under the impression that we all understood it to be crap and harmed the integrity of the character arcs back then!