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Good of you to share a study, but have you analyzed this source beyond reading the juiciest, media-bait sentence in the abstract? I have several concerns with it personally:
- First, it's from 1992 which puts it into question how representative its conclusions are for contemporary society.
- Second, I have several concerns with its methodology such as how they arrived at the 11:1 ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles. The method of calculation uses a factor of 7.6 from Abel et al. (1988') which is how much larger "the mean number of victims of offenders against male children than the mean number of victims of offenders against male children" is (p. 38'). If methods 1 or 2 of calculation were used, the ratios would be 1.35:1 and 1.44:1 respectively. This is much closer to a ratio of 1:1 which suggests "the possibility that there is no etiological relationship whatsoever between pedophilic gender preference and gynephilia or androphilia" (p. 41). This factor is very important because it is the only method of calculation which results in a ratio which suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with with a homosexual erotic development is greater that in persons who develop heterosexually. I am uncertain if the use of this factor is a sufficiently valid or reliable method of calculation. Mind you, I could be misinterpreting this piece of the paper as it is written a bit obtusely for my taste.
- Third, I question the exclusion of subjects who offended against both female and male children and that only the offenders against children aged 6-11 were selected as subjects (p. 36). I am curious to see if the inclusion of offenders against minors aged 12 to 18 would've affected the resulting ratios.
- Fourth, whites are also overwhelmingly overrepresented in the incarcerated pedophile population studied by these researchers (p. 36). Does this mean that whites are dramatically more likely to be pedophiles as well? No, because that's obviously a ridiculous conclusion to draw from this study. Similarly, I believe that saying gays are dramatically more likely to be pedophiles based on this study is equally ridiculous.
- Fifth, the study uses phallometric testing which is generally seen as an adequate method of studying paraphiliacs, but I would like to see these findings reproduced in more studies before I fully accept them. Trusting the conclusion of a single paper is ill-advised since there are examples such as this study which very confidently states that child sexual abuse does not actually cause intense harm. A single paper can come to ridiculous conclusions and still get published.
- Finally, the study itself states that its findings "should not be understood as saying that androphiles may have a greater propensity to offend against children than do gynephiles, a myth refuted in an earlier study." You're doing the exact thing they told you not to do.
I am sorry that children in USA's public schools are receiving a shitty education. I do not believe that children should have access to pornographic school books and I hope that the curriculum will be adjusted in the near future.
Again, terribly sorry for not responding to every single sentence of your comment. Desmond is a terrible example of a mother pimping out her child to pedophiles. Drag is an inherently sexual performance which should not take place in the proximity of children.
Pride events indeed tend to be degenerate and children should not participate in them. Luckily, Pride was very quiet this year and hopefully it will remain like this in the future.
Zweig wrote about the issues with his society's attitudes towards children in 1942 while Tardieu's work was republished in 1879. A century or two are a relatively short amount of time and I dislike your assumption that Victorian Britain is my only example of immoral traditions and institutions obscuring widespread pedophilia. I brought of it up due to reputation of Victorians as a chaste, traditional and pious society. Despite limiting the rights of women and exiling gays to France, they still tolerated child brothels in London and celebrated Lord Byron diddling adolescents all over the Mediterranean.
If you'd like a more recent example of widespread child diddling in supposedly traditional societies, I would like to bring up post-war USA and its battle to raise the age of consent to 16 combined with the high percentage of venereal infections among children in that time period. Also, the 60s and 70s is supposedly when child sexual abuse cases by priests were at their most numerous in USA (p. 5). If you'd like a more precise response on this subject, please identify clearly what you mean by previously functional traditions and institutions with an exact timeframe of when and where these existed.
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