The future of Gen Z

[Smashed & Slamed]

It doesn't matter how bad you think things are. The healthy response to failure is not, in fact, "whatever, it's out of my hands now"; in the biz, that's called an external locus of control, and it will melt away your self-esteem and reduce you to an ineffectual wimp. At risk of sounding like a cringe ass boomer, I truly genuinely think that this mindset is behind a majority of our issues and is far more relevant to the grievances voiced in this thread than the housing crisis or the loss of shopping malls or anything of the sort.

This nigga is quoting wikipedia. And everytime someone talks about mindset they either are a snake oil salesman or parrot them blindly.

but they're not indicative of some insurmountably terrible period in history

I see we're back to denying reality. And how are we going to fix this? Gonna all band up together, kick out all the foreigners and enact the day of the pillow?

No, that can't be true; there are still people out there making lasting real-life friendships, though perhaps less often than before.

How many?

The game has become harder but it is STILL YOUR FAULT IF YOU LOSE. Remember this. The onus is on you to put yourself out there and set reasonable standards, just as it was for your parents, and their parents before them.

The it's always your fault mindset is just gonna strip you bare eventually. When a pidgeon shits on you, someone T-bones you and your girlfriend cheats on you going "My fault" is just gonna make you unhappy. Taking blame that isn't yours is just creating a toxic relationship out of thin air.

When you're in the control mindset, failure will suck. It's *supposed* to suck.

You can make every correct move and still fail. That's how life is. Blaming yourself will achieve nothing but make you miserable. And it will force you to start not just caring about things outside of your control but creating this clear disconnect between your assumed control and the real control which will drive negativity into you.
And failure isn't really supposed to suck unless you are the one to blame and even then not for long. Beating yourself over something too much will not get you anywhere.

we're one of the luckiest, most fulfilled generations in human history

No. What has been so fulfilling the past decade?
Was it giving up our youth for old farts under the threat of imprisonment?
The financial recession making it so we can't afford anything?
Video games and social media are neat but even those got worse under our eyes.

Boy, you sound an awful like a boomer. Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps bro.

"I'm such an empath my guys I can't even detect humor"

 

[Otterly]

Are our lives really that much worse than those of our parents and grandparents?

In most ways no, in some ways yes. We don’t have workhouses any more. There’s no Dickensian poverty.
Spent a lot of time talking about this kind of thing with my parents. I’m mid gen x, they’re early boomers, their parents lived through both wars and their parents lived in abject, terrible poverty.
Both my parents grew up in houses with outside toilets and no heating. My grandparents experienced genuine hunger. The standard of material living has gone up past what they could even imagine. Nobody’s starving in the west unless they’re being abused. Everyone has clothes and food. There are welfare programs. Diseases that were lethal are fixed by antibiotics.
What’s worse is how community has gone. There are very few physically present local communities any more. Everything’s crowded and crime is through the roof.
When I speak to my parents they say it’s a mixed bag. We have so many more opportunities but we compete with more people globally. We aren’t starving it the food is slop if you’re not careful. There are no more recessive taboos but that’s ushered in terrible behaviour.
Their opinion, which i share, is that each generation faces its own set of unique challenges and benefits. Each generation faces its own problems.
FWIW I largely agree with @Party Hat Wurmple on the social stuff. I have moved around a lot for work and marriage and that’s left me with a vastly smaller social circle than I’d like. Past middle age you ain’t meeting people easily. Parasocial relationships are not enough. Humans are hard wired to be social. That doesn’t mean galloping extroverts partying into the night and yapping about nonsense it means that we need high quality relationships like family and friends.

If you guys are gen z then all you can do is take a look at what you’ve been given and regain that internal locus of control. Dont eat the bugs. Dont get in the pod. LIVE. You all deserve to live and be happy but that often takes years of self examination and struggle. Bit you must do it. Remain true to yourself. Work on what yourself actually IS. I get a feeling your lot and the lot that come after you will be pivotal in whether we end up in a feudalistic slave state or free

 

[Major]

They'll be fine. I guess.

It depends where you go though; europe is done and it isn't coming back.

I do talk to 20 year olds though and the type of stuff that's normal to them alienates me. Being a drug addict or a prostitute is just fine to them and judging someone for doing these things is completely alien and looked down on; they have no real morals or drives other than pleasure or money seeking.

That said, they are probably much richer than millenials were at their age too and going to work for investment funds earning 200K is totally normal to them. Although research suggests social mobility will go down over the coming years so maybe it isn't so rosy.

 

[PaleTay]

It's hard to bond with people because it's difficult to open up. Not everyone is receptive to that necessarily or knows what to do. I have a lot of friends I've known now for nearly a decade or more. Spend enough time with people though and you'll truly get to know them. That's why I said, put in the effort.

That's underestimating the sheer frequency in which people leave. I have people opening up to me within a week of meeting me, doesn't particularly matter because I won't see them frequently enough.

Sometimes people surprise you, most will be disappointing, but also most won't get a chance to do either.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

I see we're back to denying reality. And how are we going to fix this? Gonna all band up together, kick out all the foreigners and enact the day of the pillow?

Whuh? What do the foreigners have to do with anything? I'm not denying that things are Bad, purely in comparison to what the last few generations had, but it's certainly not impossible (or even very hard) to live a fulfilled life within the conditions in which we live. Immigration or social media or the housing crisis is not the reason we're all so lame and mopey; they're contributing factors AT MOST.

How many?

Is that important? At the end of the day, what matters is that there are people in your situation, who share your struggles, who are managing to make close friends and establish romantic relationships. What do you think separates them from everyone else? You seem like a decent enough guy; certainly, you've given me no reason to think you're too dull or mentally unwell to provide value to others. Don't concern yourself with how easy it was to meet people then vs. now, because that has no bearing on your life in the present and will only serve to worsen your mentality.

The it's always your fault mindset is just gonna strip you bare eventually. When a pidgeon shits on you, someone T-bones you and your girlfriend cheats on you going "My fault" is just gonna make you unhappy. Taking blame that isn't yours is just creating a toxic relationship out of thin air.

Yes, okay, if you blame yourself for every single misfortune that comes your way, you'll have a bad time -- but I'd presume you have the good judgement to conclude that when some blind drunk maniac in a beat-up 2004 Toyota Corolla rams you at an intersection, it isn't the result of any wrongdoing on your behalf. Random acts of God and/or alcohol aren't what I'm talking about here. What I take issue with is the defeatist attitude that Gen Z has towards issues that could be within its sphere of influence, purely because we have it a little bit harder than those who came before us (which, may I remind you, is a totally irrelevant concern). The elites/immigrants/homos do not control you, and if you think they do, it might behoove you to log off for a few hours and take a nice long walk with somebody you care about.

It can be hard to take the fall for your own wellbeing, but the upside is you eventually learn to process failure PROPERLY as opposed to rolling your eyes, going "those darn boomers", and activating your pre-established plan to check out of existence. You aren't building resilience by pretending not to care when bad things happen. You're just reducing yourself to a dispassionate observer, coasting along the slopes of life on training wheels while the rest of us pop sweet ass flips on our souped-up dirt bikes. Or something like that.

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

They will have less power, be more controlled.
Because everyone is more controlled the economy will become more and more of a sham. So they will be increasingly impoverished.
All their success will be crippled and hamstrung because any success in an unapproved way will be persecuted. The people will be encouraged to live in the most meaningless way, in the way that does not threaten the state.
Basically they'll end up like the Chinese. The state will command, the people will obey.
Because they will be heavily propagandized a large amount of them will support this. The ones who don't will have no way to stop it.
Due to the propaganda they will also be very ignorant, naïve and prone to cognitive dissonance.
This will become the status quo.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

Whuh? What do the foreigners have to do with anything?

Are you that oblivious to your environment?
When you can't find a job, can't find people like themselves, can't afford to live it's kinda hard to be peppy and go talk to people. Not everyone is like you and had a good time in highschool and can and wants to get back with those people. Again, put your self in the shoes of the common man.

Is that important?

It is because the question is not. "Can a gen Zer be fine". You can make it, I can make it. But how many of us can really make it? There is a reason suicide rates are higher for our generation. I don't want to make it really bleak but I need to get through to you. When the cards are stacked against you only so many will beat the odds as opposed to an environment where the cards are not stacked or stacked in your favor. By simple logic some of us can't make it. And I don't think it's gonna be some, I think it will be many.

purely because we have it a little bit harder than those who came before us (which, may I remind you, is a totally irrelevant concern)

You can deny reality all you want, you can't deny it's consequences.

The elites/immigrants/homos do not control you, and if you think they do, it might behoove you to log off for a few hours and take a nice long walk with somebody you care about.

They don't control me they just control everything around me and my input can only affect outcomes up to a point. And to be honest ignoring that you have been wronged is just as toxic if not more so than blaming yourself for it. These people have hurt you, they have wronged you. Dislike them, hate them. And get even. Saying it's "just my fault" is a miscarriage of justice. Why is it wrong for me to be apathetic to things outside of my control but it's a okay for you to be apathetic to being wronged?

It can be hard to take the fall for your own wellbeing, but the upside is you eventually learn to process failure PROPERLY as opposed to rolling your eyes, going "those darn boomers", and activating your pre-established plan to check out of existence.

I used to think like you. Initially it seemed to be going fine, I was making progress and took joy in that. But every single failure hurt and hurt a lot. I grew to dislike myself for every mistake. That dislike grew into hatred and progress stopped only to feed into more hatred. I was going nowhere and felt not just helpless but a burning hatred of the self. I started to feel that the misfortune I felt was disserved, that I disserved to be miserable after all look at what I did to myself. I'm a failure so I deserve to fail, I don't deserve to succeed, that's reserved for good people. I was in a rut and the mindset I followed to get me out just forced me deeper into it.
And then something really bad happened, that wasn't my fault, wasn't anyone's fault. That shook me into action. The event was so severe that the only course of action was to put on a brave face and keep going. It didn't mater who was to blame, all that mattered was that I put one foot in front of the other. The event also recontexualized my failures. The day I failed to exercise no longer hurt, after all I at least am alive currently. Not finding a job didn't mater, at least I can keep living. It also made the small victories feel bigger and the good things around me feel better while the bad things that happen to me just glance off since I go "I've lived through worse".
I no longer put on the brave face, I just have a brave face. I no longer will myself forward, I just go forward. I don't blame myself for anything anymore, I take responsibility for my actions, I don't put my character on trial. I don't work on my self because I "need", "should" or "must", I do it because I want to, because I enjoy it and because I like myself and want to be better.

You aren't building resilience by pretending not to care when bad things happen.

I don't think you are building any real resilience. What happens when you fail? What happens when you fail a lot? When nothing you do goes right?
Are you really gonna keep going? Are the dark thoughts that feed of inward negativity gonna stay away?

You're just reducing yourself to a dispassionate observer

I am reducing myself to one thing: Me. I'm not God, I don't control the world. I control my self and I will take joys in the things I achieve and accept that I can't achieve everything and that's okay.

 

[Atlas Sneezed]

I'm going to inject a bit of optimism here

- They have trouble making decisions
- They would rather hike in the Himalayas than the corporate ladder
- They have few heroes, no anthems, no style to call their own
- They crave entertainment but their attention span is as short as one zap of a tv guide
- They postpone marriage because they dread divorce
- What they hold dear are family life, local activism, national parks and mountain bikes
- They posses only a hazy sense of their own identity but a monumental preoccupation with all the problems the preceeding generation will leave for them to fix

Spoiler

As gloom and doom things look now, you guys will be alright in the end. We (late Gen X) turned out okay, so will you.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Dislike them, hate them. And get even. Saying it's "just my fault" is a miscarriage of justice. Why is it wrong for me to be apathetic to things outside of my control but it's a okay for you to be apathetic to being wronged?

I'll tell you why. Apathy is not getting even. Apathy is just nothing. Here's a news flash, Gen Z is not the first generation to want to "stick it to the man". They're just the first generation"who stick it to the man" by doing absolutely nothing. When you consider the hippie's idea of getting back at the world was smoking weed all day and making music, Gen Z is actually more useless than fucking hippies. You're going to learn the exact same lesson those faggots learned too.

You can't win against the system by refusing to participate. The world doesn't stand still. When you punch someone, they don't just stand there and take it. They punch back. You cannot just "refuse to participate in society" to starve it. Society will just leave you behind and you'll realize the only person you hurt, was yourselves. The idea other people give a rats anus if you die in your goonercaves playing Rocket League and Fortnite until the heat death of the sun is ludicrous.

On a side note, here's some ideas you may not understand:

Endlessly pursuing money leaves you wishing you had done other things later in life.

Money is useless if you have no one to share it with.

The day will come when you are too old to play vidya. The physical ability for you to react just won't be there.

The day will come when you wish you spent more time enjoying your youth and you'll never be able to get that back.

This is all the same crap I spout to the Woman Hate Thread with honestly. Sure, the Boss Babe gets six figures and goes to the Bahamas "making memories" but when you look back, nobody cares about the Bahamas themselves. You care about the time you spent with your loved ones in the Bahamas. There's a healthy balance to living life and Gen Z really just doesn't seem to get that.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

I'll tell you why. Apathy is not getting even. Apathy is just nothing.

Hatred is not apathy.

You can't win against the system by refusing to participate.

Yes you can. The system needs a certain amount of tax money to sustain it's self. If they don't get that money the system will eventually fail. It also needs people willing to do their job to keep the system afloat. People don't care, system fails. It happened to the Soviet Union, Rome and many others.
Do you think the system is infallible?
That is a bigger defeatist mindset than just not bothering.

Society will just leave you behind and you'll realize the only person you hurt, was yourselves.

How many people can it leave behind before there is nobody left?

The idea other people give a rats anus if you die

Do you think that I care if other people care?
Why should I?
Is your life entirely dependent on validation?
You will die and the people who remember you will also die. The name of your tombstone will be washed away by the passage of time and the worms will eat your remains. Having friends is not the path to immortality. It's the path to having friends, enjoy their company while you can.

Endlessly pursuing money leaves you wishing you had done other things later in life.

Zoomers don't break their back because they want infinite money. They do so because you either work as hard as you can or you won't afford a home.
Some have to work shit jobs as hard as they can just to afford rent. And that's the lucky ones, they got a fucking job.

Money is useless if you have no one to share it with.

Money is not useless if it pays for food and shelter. Going by your logic we should all give up our rents and begin living in hobo tents. I mean what's not to love about a hobo encampment. Plenty of interesting people, sometimes one person is so interesting he has multiple personalities. And you can easily complete your love quest in a hobo encampment, sometimes even against your will. There is also plenty of fent to keep the pain away.

The day will come when you are too old to play vidya. The physical ability for you to react just won't be there.

There is a 90 year old jap man streaming himself playing videogames. Have you ever played video games?
It's not an activity for peak athletes. It's one step removed from saying "you'll get too old to watch the tv".

The day will come when you wish you spent more time enjoying your youth and you'll never be able to get that back.

Don't worry nigger that day was 8 years ago.

This is all the same crap I spout to the Woman Hate Thread with honestly. Sure, the Boss Babe gets six figures and goes to the Bahamas "making memories" but when you look back, nobody cares about the Bahamas themselves.

I don't know what nepo babies or woman hating has to do with anything. It seems you care about these things more than people should. And some people do genuinely find value in going to places and seeing some things first hand. I don't think a tropical resort is something you should see value in. But memories don't all require other people to be made. It's okay to make memories by yourself.

There's a healthy balance to living life and Gen Z really just doesn't seem to get that.

I don't understand why you are so adamant in imposing your world view. Is my world view a threat to yours? Does your world view hinge on no other perspectives leading to a happy life?
It feels as if it doesn't mater what I say. You already made up your mind and simply are searching for the right combination of arguments to "win".
Quite a few times I asked you if you have any real solutions. When I generalized that you got 3 choices, you said there were others, never expanded on that idea. When I asked you what's your definition of Nihilism, you never answered. When I pointed out you can't force women to reproduce with you, you didn't reply.
Why?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Hatred is not apathy.

Hatred is just inaction until you do something with that hatred. Otherwise it's literally just cope n seethe. Even if it's for a good reason, you're doing nothing but seething.

Yes you can. The system needs a certain amount of tax money to sustain it's self. If they don't get that money the system will eventually fail. It also needs people willing to do their job to keep the system afloat. People don't care, system fails. It happened to the Soviet Union, Rome and many others.

I don't know what you don't seem to get about this, but you will NEVER get away with that. If your grand dream plan is that hatred of the machine causes it to collapse the machine due to fed up people causing a mass tax boycott, you lost that fight already and you lost it years ago. Every single user here probably has their cash in the bank, and probably has the bank app on their phone. On top of being illegal, there is nothing stopping I, the government, from simply taking the money. You cannot launch a mass tax boycott in the modern day. Money is basically credits as it is, there is nothing stopping the government from just seizing what they want.

That being said, do you think you're the first one to think of this? Do you really honestly think that? There is no such thing as an original idea. Do you know who the last person was who tried to do a mass tax boycott? It was fucking MLK Jr. Look what they did to him.

Here's a hint about playing the revolutionary game that my generation understood very well: You are not as smart as you think you are. If you thought of it, they thought of it. Other people aren't going to sit still and let your plans unfold. They are thinking and acting people too, capable of independent thought as well.

There is a 90 year old jap man streaming himself playing videogames. Have you ever played video games?

More than you have, clearly.

Do you think that I care if other people care?
Why should I?

Because never leaving your goonercave and playing Rocket League to the heat death of the sun is a gay and retarded way to live life and it will never not be. The fact you're trying to justify, even from a 3rd person perspective, makes you gay and retarded. There is nothing cool about being a shut in NEET. While I don't like punching down on retards, I will absolutely shame and mock you endlessly for trying to argue to other people that this lifestyle is even slightly preferential to going out and hanging out with your friends in your person.

Money is not useless if it pays for food and shelter.

As far as work and money go, consider this a reply to all your points. We all did it. Everyone was young and worked themselves to the bone until they got better opportunities or found better ways to make money. You are neither the first nor last generation to complain about it. Gen Z is simply the loudest and the gayest about it. At least until Gen Beta and Gamma come along.

But memories don't all require other people to be made. It's okay to make memories by yourself.

The ones that really worth it do require other people.

I don't understand why you are so adamant in imposing your world view. Is my world view a threat to yours? Does your world view hinge on no other perspectives leaving to a happy life?

Yes it is a threat. The other user went through this. However in speaking with you, I realized that Stay In Your Pod, was never meant for me. It was meant for my children and their children. Your complacency to stay in your pod and play Vidya endlessly is a existential threat to the healthy lifestyle I want my children to grow up in. While I can do nothing force you to change your lifestyle or point of view, I will endlessly shame you for it and convince as many others as possible to do the same.

Why? They government got a taste of the power of the pods during lockdown. They want that power again and we all know it. Your complacency to simply play Vidya instead of be social means you will be more likely to be complacent when that time comes. So yes, your beliefs are a direct existential threat to the well-being of my children and future grandchildren. Deep down, your views are no better than wokeism. They may not be outwardly destructive, but they have a hidden destructive nature and I am not blind to it.

The tagline is you will Stay In Your Pod and You Will Be Happy. I simply don't want you to be happy in your pod.

When I asked you what's your definition of Nihilism, you never answered. When I pointed out you can't force women to reproduce with you, you didn't reply.
Why?

You post a lot of stuff and I simply had to pick and choose what to answer due to time and I'm not going to bother answering questions I either can't answer or don't feel like answering because they're ultimately irrelevant.

So TLDR, my definition is the book definition. My answer is I can't get you laid bro. The other ways are probably good ones but it was days ago and I just can't be arsed to go back and try to remember them.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

Even if it's for a good reason, you're doing nothing but seething.

I'm not gonna fed post. But simply not giving any resources to the people I hate and hate me is more than you seem to be doing.

Every single user here probably has their cash in the bank

"Don't give up, Don't live in the pod, Be unhappy."
But also "Keep your money in the bank. You can never win and the state will never die"
You are a bigger nigger cattle than any NEET ever can dream of being.

You cannot launch a mass tax boycott in the modern day.

They can't tax us if we make no money or if we're dead.

Because never leaving your goonercave and playing Rocket League to the heat death of the sun

Is goonercave(btw it's gooncave), Rocket League and heat death some sort of key words in your programing?
Is PokemonGoToThePolls not in vogue anymore?

I will absolutely shame and mock you endlessly for trying to argue

You might want to work on your sharp wit. I've gotten better roasts from my grandma and she's dead.

Everyone was young and worked themselves to the bone

Then why do so few of you own your own homes?

I want my children to grow up in.

I think you should focus on being a good parent, not arguing in such a disingenuous way on the Internet. I don't know your kids, probably never will and they won't know me. I'm less of a bad influence on your kids than Skibidi toilet.

Your complacency to simply play Vidya instead of be social means you will be more likely to be complacent when that time comes

And you base that on what?
You can only push people into a corner so much, and a lot of us have nothing to lose.

They may not be outwardly destructive, but they have a hidden destructive nature and I am not blind to it.

To quote a great millenial thinker. You believe you are smarter than you really are.

I simply don't want you to be happy in your pod.

You are failing at your goal. I am greatly enjoying your straw grasping and your seething.

You post a lot of stuff and I simply had to pick and choose what to answer due to time and I'm not going to bother answering questions I either can't answer or don't feel like answering because they're ultimately irrelevant.

"I don't have the answer. I just claimed I did to distract."

 

[likeacrackado]

Desperately attempt to grasp meaning or give up and live a life of hedonism. Most of us will do both and probably jump back and forth a few times throughout our lives. The fabric of society(religion, family, village) were torn apart over the last couple centuries and we're living at the end of that(until Gen Alpha take our place). Read some of the posts in this thread. Ask an older person for general life advice and they'll give a generic spiel about 'finding happiness' or 'having a community of people you love'. I don't blame them, its only a lesser version of their parents worldview which was a lesser version of older generations' outlooks. Consciously or not Gen Z follows that advice and we'll impart a degraded version onto our kids.

 

[namvata]

Having to settle for Gen Alpha women is a terrifying concept. How am I supposed to date a girl who grew up watching Paw Patrol? It just feels wrong.

Imagine not wanting a skibidi toilet wife. Fucking L rizz bruh, only in ohio. Did you pray today?

 

[Towoman]

somebody you care about.

ur missing the point bro

There is nothing cool about being a shut in NEET

At least its not paying taxes and being a wagie.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

At least its not paying taxes and being a wagie.

Lol I love this. "Down with the machine!" *Plays Vidya endlessly*

"I'm not paying my taxes!" Oh, hi IRS. Is it April again? I have to suck who's schlongs in prison?! Nevermind, here you go, my wallet is your onahole! Thank you sir, cum again.

"AT LEAST I'M NOT A WAGIE!" *Spends $50+ on humble bundle sales while eating Chipotle*

"I refuse to give money to people who hate me!" Oh look, new Vidya from Troon Team Six and Gamer Gurl Sock devs!

Hahahaha, this is fun. I finally understand why Boomers did this. You guys are a riot. Next can you justify the broccoli hair? I thought the frosted tips were bad, but at least most of those kids had them were pretending to be Super Saiyan or were copying popular boy bands. Where the fuck did the devil's curly hair come from?

 

[namvata]

Hahahaha, this is fun. I finally understand why Boomers did this. You guys are a riot. Next can you justify the broccoli hair? I thought the frosted tips were bad, but at least most of those kids had them were pretending to be Super Saiyan or were copying popular boy bands. Where the fuck did the devil's curly hair come from?

Bernie Sanders will never be president, you're never getting your 20s back, friends was a trash show (as are most shitcoms), rick and morty wasn't funny, and you've probably needed SSRIs to cope with #adulting at least once in your life.

Generational tribalism is not a game that soylennials are gonna win, you guys are even more pathetic than the boomers, at least their racism and "I hate my wife" jokes can be kinda funny sometimes. Millennial """humor""" only has 3 modes:
>I'm sad and depressed and don't know why
>duhhhhh we're monkeys on a floating rock nothing matters duuuude
>LOLZ XD TEH RANDOM FRICKING PENGUIN OF DOOM *holds up sp0rk*
(make sure you include excessive swearing for the sake of and midwit social commentary for all 3)

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Bernie Sanders will never be president, you're never getting your 20s back, friends was a trash show, rick and morty wasn't funny, and you've probably needed SSRIs to cope with #adulting at least once in your life.

I never liked Sanders. He was a duplicitous faggot. Friends was garbage. My 20s were great and I don't need them back. Rick and Morty was meh at best. SSRIs are for fucking losers. Anyone who uses the word adulting is cringe.

At least I got to experience the world before the internet ruined it.

 

[namvata]

It's so funny how people talk about zoomers as if they're the generation that's gonna cause the collapse, or they're gonna be the ones to witness it. The harsh reality though is that zoomers already live in the collapse, it's already come.

We live in a world where god is dead, there is no sense of community, there isn't any heroes or role models for them to look up to (let alone deconstruct or rebel against), the standard of living has collapsed through the floor and they have no hope of owning a house or starting a family, violence and drug use are abundant, all of the entertainment and media is mostly the same interchangeable degenerate slop, and they're fucking less than any other generation while porn is literally everywhere you look. You already live in the collapse, you just don't realize it yet.

 

[incognitoad]

this is one of the worst things I have read on this website

My apologies.

Life is not about taking the easy way out. Life is about putting in effort for people that matter to you.
You need social interaction.
You need close friends. You need family.
You need to put in effort to show them you care.
The hole you feel in your heart can only be filled by the people around you. Just sitting online to play Vidya for a few hours remotely IS NOT FUCKING ENOUGH.
You cannot live life this way. When you are older, you will pay for this attitude and nihilism ten fold.
No market, corporation, or social media attention can replace the love of the friends I have made throughout my life.
There's no substitute for people who love you.

I mostly agree. But why?

What assumptions/beliefs do you have under that? What does "need" mean in this context? Do you get to decide? If yes, why you? If no, who? How are your choices better than entertainment and then offing yourself before the consequences catch up to you?

These questions might seem absurd, autistic, insane, like nitpicking, pretending to be retarded etc., but I'm posing them to illustrate that you have assumptions in your thinking that many zoomers lack, for one reason or another. Your approach to this discussion is "I'm self-evidently right", which is counter-productive, if your goal is to convey your point of view, advice, criticism, or really anything to people who don't already agree.

My answer, and I'm not making my beliefs very covert, is that we've been created by God and given a responsibility for ourselves and the world and people around us. Understanding where you individually should be and what you should be doing is between you and God. Finding it requires proactive effort, big part of which is differentiating between what the world expects of you, what you find emotionally satisfying, what comes from demons and what truly comes from God, which are often tangled together and not easily separated. We've been given free will to choose between good and evil, and a rational mind to differentiate between the two.

Observe and think of the best action you can take within your means, enact it in the world, pay careful attention to the fruit it bears, because you tell whether you chose correctly or not by the fruit.

The void is present not just within asocial isolated losers, it persists in many people that "did everything they were supposed to do". You can prescribe actions to take that generally work for people, and personal responsibility is certainly a great start, but I believe the increasingly dire state of the world won't change direction without us taking a deep and honest look at the foundations on which we stand. I'm happy to hear yours.