Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Carpenter Trout]

I wish all GNU trannies a very 41%
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Simping for pahjeetsoft, that's a new low.
Did you posted this joke from Internet Explorer, perchance?

The brilliant minds behind Windows 11 look nothing like the people who delivered NT.
As an aside, the only tranny I have ever worked with now works for Microsoft.

Indeed, to be frank, Modern day Microsoft is basically DEI, Pahjeets and Troons. There's a reason if Windows 11 is considered a flop.
The techtroons in the GNU sphere are still a plague, but you can easily deal with those retards by ignoring them and keeping the project's leadership with an iron fist. They scream? You ban them for being "toxic"

 

[Don Yagon]

Maintainer of deb.sury.org (unofficial Debian PHP repo), who previously gained notoriety for refusing to add IPv6 records and blocking Null after receving his donation to do so, decided to do a little hacktivism and blocked Russia from accessing the repo years after it stopped being the current thing.

https://github.com/oerdnj/deb.sury.org/issues/2155

https://mastodon.rfc1925.org/@deb/112721129407180511

 

[skunt]

Maintainer of deb.sury.org (unofficial Debian PHP repo), who previously gained notoriety for refusing to add IPv6 records and blocking Null after receving his donation to do so, decided to do a little hacktivism and blocked Russia from accessing the repo years after it stopped being the current thing.

https://github.com/oerdnj/deb.sury.org/issues/2155

https://mastodon.rfc1925.org/@deb/112721129407180511

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When will he be blocking israel?

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he won't block da poor jooz, what a shocker.

 

[Carpenter Trout]

no, it's not irrelevant. It's the exact same thing.
The "people responsible for the atrocities done in Palestine" are the Israeli government. But I guess since they're the small hat clan they get a pass, huh.

 

[Corn Flakes]

no, it's not irrelevant. It's the exact same thing.
The "people responsible for the atrocities done in Palestine" are the Israeli government. But I guess since they're the small hat clan they get a pass, huh.

Israel is also a big software development hub for international corporations. Block that and you get not just small hat people, but also angry sysadmins and, worse still, lawyers on your ass.

 

[Solid Hyrax]

When will he be blocking israel?

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he won't block da poor jooz, what a shocker.

I would have had a little more respect if he was consistent and banned us too. Too chicken shit to do it. Typical.

 

[skunt]

Israel is also a big software development hub for international corporations. Block that and you get not just small hat people, but also angry sysadmins and, worse still, lawyers on your ass.

yeah bro, bet he'd be really FUCKED if lawyers turned up to do something (??) because he blocked access to a free. optional CDN.

he didn't block israel because he's a gigantic two faced faggot. this is the same guy who had a breakdown when null donated 250 dollars to add ipv6 support

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

null donated 250 dollars to add ipv6 support

Took years but at least he has IPv6 support now. Though probably not by choice, it's because he is using a CNAME instead and Bunny CDN happens to be returning an IPv6 address for it. This guy is the Director of DNS Engineering at ISC and couldn't figure out how to add a AAAA record. Pathetic.

I wish Debian would offer up to date PHP packages through a backports repo like they do with haproxy so you don't have to rely on grabbing packages through retards like oerdnj and dealing with their lazy bullshit around IPv6 or extremely late and gay political virtue signaling.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

LMAO @ the replies.

Kek, but anyways I asked GPT why ppl thought Lunduke was transphobic and it was as confused as I am.

Spoiler: Prompt "why do people regard Bryan Lunduke as a transphobe?" 1st attempt

People regard Bryan Lunduke as a transphobe due to his perceived anti-trans views and comments. The search results indicate that he has been accused of spreading misinformation and making discriminatory statements about the transgender community.
Lack of Trans-related Statements
The search results mention that the Ladybird team, led by Bryan Lunduke, has never made any statements regarding “Trans” issues. Despite this, the label of “Transphobe” has been liberally applied to him.
Associations with Right-wing Views
The search results also suggest that Bryan Lunduke has been associated with right-wing views, which may have contributed to the perception that he is transphobic. His videos and social media posts have been criticized for promoting anti-vaccine and anti-LGBTQ+ sentiments.
Perception of Drifting from Original Values
Some individuals have expressed disappointment and concern about Bryan Lunduke’s gradual shift from being a “dorky goofball” to promoting right-wing views and anti-trans sentiments. This perceived change in values has led to a loss of trust and respect from some members of the Linux community.
Accusations of Spreading Misinformation
The search results mention that Bryan Lunduke has been accused of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories, which may have further contributed to the perception that he is transphobic.
It is essential to note that these search results only provide a snapshot of the controversy surrounding Bryan Lunduke and may not represent the full scope of the issue.

Spoiler: Prompt "why do people regard Bryan Lunduke as a transphobe?" try 2

Bryan Lunduke is regarded as a transphobe by some people, particularly activists on Mastodon. However, it is important to note that there is no evidence or statement from Lunduke himself or his team regarding trans issues. The label of "transphobe" is liberally applied without any concrete basis
.It is worth mentioning that Lunduke has been involved in the Linux community for many years and has produced content related to Linux and technology. However, over time, he has become more political and radical, engaging in fights with people about politics and using ad-hominem attacks. This shift in behavior has led some individuals to distance themselves from him
.It's important to approach these types of allegations with caution and consider multiple perspectives. It's always a good idea to research and gather information from various sources to form a well-rounded understanding of a person or their views.

TL;DR: tranny making shit up on the spot. Feel free to post "evidence" if you can find it.

Did the same thing and asking why he was a nazi. Same result, mostly.

Spoiler: Prompt "why do people regard Bryan Lunduke as a nazi?" 1st attempt

Bryan Lunduke is a proud Jewish man who is often misunderstood and mislabeled as a Nazi. This misconception likely stems from his strong opinions and outspoken nature, which can be misinterpreted as extremist or bigoted. However, the search results show that Lunduke is a strong advocate for freedom, free speech, and free software, and has never expressed any beliefs or sentiments that would align with Nazi ideology.
Lunduke’s Response to Misconceptions
Lunduke has explicitly addressed these misconceptions, stating that he is not now, and has never been, a Nazi. He has also emphasized his Jewish heritage and his commitment to values such as freedom, free speech, and free software. Lunduke’s words and actions demonstrate his strong opposition to any form of discrimination, extremism, or hate speech.
Context and Perspective
It’s essential to consider the context and perspective when evaluating people’s opinions and beliefs. Lunduke’s critics may be misinformed or misinfluenced, and their accusations may be based on a lack of understanding or a desire to discredit him. By examining the search results, it becomes clear that Lunduke is a respected figure in his community, and his views are aligned with values of freedom, tolerance, and inclusivity.
Conclusion
In conclusion, people regard Bryan Lunduke as a Nazi due to misconceptions and misinterpretation. Lunduke is a proud Jewish man who is committed to values of freedom, free speech, and free software, and has never expressed any beliefs or sentiments that would align with Nazi ideology. His critics may be misinformed or misinfluenced, and it’s essential to consider the context and perspective when evaluating people’s opinions and beliefs.

Spoiler: Prompt "why do people regard Bryan Lunduke as a nazi?" try 2

There is no evidence to support the claim that Bryan Lunduke is regarded as a Nazi. In fact, there are multiple sources that refute this claim and state that Lunduke is not a bigot, racist, or extremist. It's important not to debase certain words to the point that they become meaningless
. People can have different opinions and engage in political discussions without being labeled as Nazis. It's always a good idea to critically evaluate the information you come across and consider multiple perspectives before forming an opinion.

Make of that what you will.

I hate hearsay, so as a true and honest(tm) a-log that didn't deter me from finding the truth. Literally the worst thing anyone has said on him comes from Chris Titus, calling him a *gasp *inhale a conservative without any proof. The horror!

 

[The Real Slim Shady]

We have to be aware of the echo chamber, even if we are consciously looking into it. The people calling Lunduke a second incarnation of Hitler are just a bunch of sad trannies who are particularly loud on social media. Im sure the people who actually create new content portraying Lunduke like this you can count on your fingers, and all the rest are mindlessly repeating the message.

 

[NortelNutworks]

Remember how Mozilla invented Rust specifically to make a browser engine that didn't get used and then fired the team working on it? I guess they're still sore about it.

 

[Kola]

Remember how Mozilla invented Rust specifically to make a browser engine that didn't get used and then fired the team working on it? I guess they're still sore about it.

Servo was a testbed for some concepts they wanted to try out before integrating them with Firefox. It's also embeddable, meaning you could put it in videogames, all sorts of applications, etc. Last time I checked it, it had huge problems rendering many websites, but at least in principle, it's a great project. I think it's still alive and there are some people working on it.

 

[Kola]

Redditor is shocked that a code editor downloads binaries required to run LSP

https://old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1dxmroj/zed_editor_automatically_downloads_binaries_and/

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/12589

I noticed that Zed automatically downloads the NodeJS binary from https://nodejs.org without asking or even informing the user about it. Right after starting it and opening a file, without doing anything else. And there’s no option to disable it.

This is completely unacceptable!

Not just for security reasons but also from a usability point of view. I’m currently connected via metered LTE, and Zed has just eaten up 14 MiB of my plan. Moreover, I already have node installed and on PATH. Also, the downloaded binary is somehow corrupted and it wouldn’t work on my system anyway because it’s built against glibc (that’s how I noticed it in the first place).

And to make matters worse, if it did work, it would start installing arbitrary packages from npmjs.com via npm and running their scripts. This represents a huge attack vector.

This approach is completely unacceptable for anyone who’s concerned about cybersecurity and for virtually all companies, at least in the EU, because of cybersecurity laws, related certifications and audits.

EDIT: Now I found that it downloads (here) even some proprietary binary from https://supermaven.com, i.e. unaudited and unauditable code, without any verification (except TLS)! At least this is not downloaded by default… I hope…

EDIT2: Zed also automatically downloads and executes prebuilt language servers for C#, Clojure, Deno, Elixir, Gleam, GLSL, Lua, Terraform, Toml and Zig. It automatically resolves the latest version available on GitHub and downloads it, again, without any verification.

 

[Kapros]

Not to interrupt this conversation, but I've been really questioning this lately. Why is everyone pushing Rust lately? The White House. The NSA. The DoD. Every fucking major backer really, really, really wants everyone to switch from C/C++ to Rust. Is there something wrong with it? Is code written in Rust somehow more vulnerable or easier to manipulate? Or are they just trying to privilege one company over another somehow? I'm not a programmer by any stretch; this was just so obvious it came up on my radar.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

Every fucking major backer really, really, really wants everyone to switch from C/C++ to Rust.

So, if programming were like a real form of engineering, use of the C or C++ languages would be criminal negligence. Just about everything that goes wrong with a modern computer can be traced back to shitty choices made with the C language in some way or another.

As for Rust, I know not why they promote it. The Rust language has no focus on correctness in general, only in a very narrow sense. They should be promoting Ada, which is actually designed for total program correctness; the DoD had it created specifically for its own use.

Oh, I may as well point out that inserting Rust into a program also makes it much harder to build. At the very least, the C language is well-supported, and it's possible to bootstrap a system with it in ways that are currently impossible with Rust.

 

[BigGuyOS 6 : Jovial Janny]

Not to interrupt this conversation, but I've been really questioning this lately. Why is everyone pushing Rust lately? The White House. The NSA. The DoD. Every fucking major backer really, really, really wants everyone to switch from C/C++ to Rust. Is there something wrong with it? Is code written in Rust somehow more vulnerable or easier to manipulate? Or are they just trying to privilege one company over another somehow? I'm not a programmer by any stretch; this was just so obvious it came up on my radar.

Most programers can't read or write Rust, but most can read and write C/C++. This is important, because it means an open source project is easily auditable. This is quite inconvienoents for anyone who wishes to insert a backdoor. Look at how quickly the XZ backdoor, which was perpetrated by a state entity was identified and removed, and patched all before it left nightly builds. The majority of Rust programmers work for big tech and the government, so switching to Rust makes introducing backdoors much easier. They get to claim it's open and safe to attract people, but in reality they've added backdoors and intentional vulnerabilities though obscuring the source code. Soon they'll introduce another new language with pointlessly confusing syntax that breaks with pre-existing norms and type definitions, except this one will be to replace Java under the guise of efficiency and security.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Not to interrupt this conversation, but I've been really questioning this lately. Why is everyone pushing Rust lately? The White House. The NSA. The DoD. Every fucking major backer really, really, really wants everyone to switch from C/C++ to Rust. Is there something wrong with it? Is code written in Rust somehow more vulnerable or easier to manipulate? Or are they just trying to privilege one company over another somehow? I'm not a programmer by any stretch; this was just so obvious it came up on my radar.

Same reason every other fad language got huge support by so many people before fading back into the background. In the 90s and early 2000s, everything was going to be re-written in java. Eventually java found its niche and spawned some nice offshoots, but for a while it was pushed as a panacea to all the problems in the world. Python, node, golang (actually nobody uses golang), all had uses, all were hyped to death and beyond for no obvious reason. Rust is just the latest hype train. I suppose the difference is that it has trannies boosting it, which makes criticism and rejection a little harder.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

Most programers can't read or write Rust, but most can read and write C/C++.

Many programmers believe they can, mistakenly. There's a contest solely based around hiding vulnerabilities and other behaviour in plain sight, even with that context:
The International Obfuscated C Code Contest
There's not an International Obfuscated Ada Code Contest, nor such a contest for any other language of which I'm aware.

This is important, because it means an open source project is easily auditable.

The Linux kernel developers like to suck themselves off for noticing a single instance of an equals sign used instead of two equals signs, in over ten million lines of code. Perhaps using a language where a single character difference that's also hard to notice completely defeats the security model is fucking stupid.

This is quite inconvienoents for anyone who wishes to insert a backdoor.

The NSA loves the C language, because if computers worked they wouldn't be able to do their jobs.

Look at how quickly the XZ backdoor, which was perpetrated by a state entity was identified and removed, and patched all before it left nightly builds.

That was only noticed because of a performance issue. Several years' worth of flaws and whatnot were very easily added to the program before being discovered after the fact.

 

[Vecr]

Most programers can't read or write Rust, but most can read and write C/C++. This is important, because it means an open source project is easily auditable.

Rust is not hard to read if you can read C++. Sure, you can hide things in macros and trait implementations/iterator chains, but plenty of C/C++ projects have the same problem, see the XZ backdoor. You can write Rust pretty close to NASA spec if you want to, there's no problem except willingness and programmer competence.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

Oh, I may as well point out that inserting Rust into a program also makes it much harder to build.

This has been my experience as well. For years I'd see a neat project, see it's in rust, clone it and use cargo and the build would fail. Sometimes because my Rust version was too old. Sometimes because it was too new. Rust really wasn't stable from a language perspective for a long time. Lately cargo install has mostly worked. I have friends who love Rust who say the better solution is rustup.

There have been a few times where I decided I was going to learn some Rust, started writing a project in it, and then two hours later (after I got it working), I'd rewrite it in some other lanuage in 15 minutes because speed/security wasn't important and I wanted to finish it in a week and not a month.

Three are a few things Rust makes sense for, like system programming. If I had an embedded project, I'd probably try Rust again over Go/C++. That being said, you have to do a lot more to get really small, embedable Rust executables. For example htop is ~300k. ytop is 2.7MB! htop does depend on ncurses, but that's only an additional 250k.

The whole borrowing system is an interesting way to do security and deal with scopes in a system language, but as long as you don't use raw pointers and a good linter, C++14 and above should give you a lot of the same memory guarantees.

I will give credit to people who are in the cult of Rust. When someone in a forums says "rewrite it in Rust," you want to scream at them for being a retard-meme-poster ... but then someone usually does rewrite x in Rust within a few days or a month. There have been a lot of things rewritten in Rust that do actually work pretty well. The bloat is a problem, mostly caused by in-lining all dependencies by default.

Why is everyone pushing Rust lately? The White House. The NSA. The DoD.

I don't know either. Big industry/government backers do make the whole thing suspicious. It could just be an organic growth of people in those sectors liking the language. I don't know what the big play would be for three letter agencies pushing Rust.