F1NN5TER / Jude Howarth / Rose Elizabeth Evergreen - Kids Minecraft YouTuber turned forced feminisation fetish Twitch streamer & OnlyFans pornographer with wealthy donors. Internet Famous & Friends with Chris Tyson, Mr Beast, & Jean Hollywood.

(Or it’s both of them, but Occams razor and the fact that real life is generally not a soap opera says it isn’t), it’s just the dad.
Would agree with you other than this point. The name change to Briar Elizabeth suggests otherwise. Apologies if i missed some new information later in the thread im still catching up with all of the new stuff
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Is it possible that Ten couldve persuaded Finn to change his middle name to Elizabeth? There are too many “coincidences” in this story for there not to be some sort of pattern. It doesnt seem that unlikely that Larry couldve suggested the middle name Elizabeth to Finn for whatever odd reason it may be. Also I find it extremely hard to believe that the troon son and finn arent connected at all. Its possible that Ethan was the one who originally introduced Larry to Finn in the first place
Without the Elizabeth, the Rose/Briar connection is a bit tenuous if you ask me. Might just be a really weird coincidence.
 
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No mention of when Ethan started going by “Briar” (though it’s not crazy to think that he’d already picked it by 2018, if he was already calling himself a trans woman on Reddit), but the Elizabeth is probably because he’s got a female relative called Elizabeth (maybe his mother, from this post?), so may have just taken her name as his middle name. Without the Elizabeth, the Rose/Briar connection is a bit tenuous if you ask me.
We really dont know if he already called himself Briar before but the official name change was January 2024 and from 2016-22 he was still known as Ethan at Vesta. F1nn5ter also has Elizabeth as his middle troon name, but it could be a coincidence. I just found odd someone like Larry being confused about his sexuality, wondering if he is a furry at 57 but we really dont know him that well and ending the sentences with ellipsis and the emoji just like the previous tenmuses account that most likely is Larry is kinda damning.
 
Maybe his original account got banned for something or hacked?
Boomer's Razor: He just forgot the password or was too lazy to change it.

I think it's about time we start weighting reasons against each identity. Is there another reason Ethan could have to delete his Facebook that doesn't involve direct warning by Larry? Maybe Ethan just noticed the username his dad uses for everything ended up being discussed in the same line as Kiwi Farms doxing and tapped the fuck out on his own while we are here, every few pages making the case for and against him being the guy that is grooming a retarded bong into being a sissy.

Let's look at this from this perspective, if you are trans or trans adjacent, you never hear the end about the evol Chudi Farms and you know the moment they look at you is better to fucking bolt. Maybe Ethan was alerted, maybe even independently from the F1NN 'cord, by some watchdog that happened upon the fact his name was being passed around in the Farms. That way we can explain why Ethan nukes his online presence in 26 hours, too fast to not be alerted but not fast enough to really hide everything.
 
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To be fair, thats was in Oregon, where a name/gender change is likely as easy as going to the Starbucks for your latest dose of sugary goyslop masquerading as coffee. Both menial, routine service jobs staffed by disinterested NPCs. I'd be willing to bet that you could go into any courthouse in the Portland metro area twice a week and come up with the most ridiculous Troon-adjacent name to legally change to, and they wouldn't even bat an eye.
You're basically correct. You fill out some forms, pay a fee, publicly post the name change in a county courthouse for a day (I've heard conflicting things about whether it has to be the county where you're domiciled or if you can go to the most obscure county courthouse in the state to avoid nosy Nathans from seeing it), and then it enters the system shortly thereafter. If you file an extra form or two then you can request to have it sealed if you're a troon or have a special kind of protective order out against someone. The request to seal it isn't always approved.

Only thing I don't know for sure is how often you can get them.
 
Boomer's Razor: He just forgot the password or was too lazy to change it.

I think it's about time we start weighting reasons against each identity. Is there are other reason Ethan could have to delete his Facebook that doesn't involve direct warning by Larry? Maybe Ethan just noticed the username his dad uses for everything ended up being discussed in the same line as Kiwi Farms doxing and tapped the fuck out on his own while we are here, every few pages making the case for and against him being the guy that is grooming a retarded bong into being a sissy.

Let's look at this from this perspective, if you are trans or trans adjacent, you never hear the end about the evol Chudi Farms and you know the moment they look at you is better to fucking bolt. Maybe Ethan was alerted, maybe even independently from the F1NN 'cord, by some watchdog that happened upon the fact his name was being passed around in the Farms. That way we can explain why Ethan nukes his online presence in 26 hours, too fast to not be alerted but not fast enough to really hide everything.
if were considering identity then we need to consider the fact that ethan is definitely on discord. Hes a tranny
 
@Nothing To See Here great work, this screenshot in particular caught my eye:

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The "Stevens and Pruett Show" was a regional shock jock radio program in Texas that's heyday was the 80s to early 90s, though I think it started in the late 70s. They were initially on the air in Dallas before moving to Houston in 1986. Mark Stevens was fired in February 2000 (source: https://lauriekendrick.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/mark-stevens/).

If only given the choice between Larry and Ethan, I'm going with Larry being behind this Reddit account.
 
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Actually Ethan thought he was/pretended to be a woman on that Reddit account since January 2012 at the latest (and his first comment on that account was about LGBTQetc bullshit too), the bolding and underlining is by me:

https://archive.is/2mpBZ

karijou 2 points 12 years ago

As someone who started playing in vanilla WoW and disabled her account shortly after BC, I've (almost) only been pleased with all the changes up through Cataclysm. All in all, it seems like things are easier, more efficient, and more tailored to a casual sort of fun experience. (As someone busy with a thesis and the real world, this is a Very Good Thing.) Quests are more to the point, there seems to be less grinding that doesn't feel at least somewhat productive, and so on.

Here are a few other posts that might be of some interest:

https://archive.ph/vjofo

karijou 2 points 6 years ago

26 going on 27 here, just entered the workforce two years ago. I've got a few questions all at once, and if you have any input on any of them feel free to offer it - don't feel obligated to answer everything!
1) I'm interested in building my credit score (738 Equifax / 724 TransUnion). Right now, I've got one credit card I actively use. It was opened two years ago, I use it at about 30-40% available credit (intending to lower to 20-30%) and I pay it off fully after every statement. Is sticking with this one credit card my best option, or are there benefits to opening a second account?
2) Right now, I max out my HSA contributions, max out employer match on my 401k (Fidelity) contributions, and have a separate Vanguard brokerage account (non-IRA). From what I'm gathering thanks to this subreddit and guides, it might be appropriate to restructure with priority as follows: max out 401k contributions, open Vanguard Roth IRA and max that out, max out HSA contributions, and only THEN contribute to brokerage account. Is this a correct read of the situation?
3) When is the proper time/finance level to buy a house? Obviously, many non-financial factors go into this decision, but let's say everything works out perfectly on these: your job is in a stable sector and you are marked as essential at a well-performing company, you have a long-term partner but aren't intending to have children anytime soon, and you're already located in the geographic area you'd like to reside indefinitely. Are "20% down payment covered" and "less than 30% of take-home income goes to housing" really the only rules that matter?
4) Tying in to the last part of 3) above, should the 20% down payment be exclusively saved for in a savings account after all retirement accounts are maxed out? Or does that lead to a shuffling of priorities?
5) When is it appropriate to ask your cards' banks for a credit limit raise?

karijou 1 point 6 years ago

To tell you the truth, I don't have any cards in mind. Right now I have the Citi Double Cash card for a net 2% return on all transactions. I was probably going to look through the guides and see if any particular recommendations jumped out at me.
In terms of expense breakdown, a quick look at Personal Capital over a three month period yields the following results. (All percentages are out of take home income over that same period.)
  • Rent: 24.3%
  • Entertainment: 14.5%
  • Monthly Bills: 9.4%
  • General/Groceries: 9.4%
  • Restaurants: 8%
  • Other Expenses: 5.2%
  • Total Expended: 70.8%
Any tips based on that makeup?

https://archive.ph/uGaDA
karijou 1 point 6 years ago

Currently, I've got about $12000 in a Vanguard brokerage account (non IRA). I've been led to believe that I should get this transferred over into a new Roth IRA. The two questions are:
1) I can only transfer $5500 of the account to a Roth IRA before April's deadline, right?
2) How will this affect filing taxes? Will I need to request updated versions of the forms I've been sent?
 
Well this pretty much confirms my worst fears, being that the tranny chaser forced fem fetishist grooming a young man into being a tranny has a tranny son who may or may not be skinwalking as the tranny his dad is grooming -- that is, assuming the tranny the dad is grooming isn't skinwalking as his son.

Gross. Super fucking gross. Gross.

Maybe Ethan just noticed the username his dad uses for everything ended up being discussed in the same line as Kiwi Farms doxing and tapped the fuck out on his own
If he was in Finnster's discord, he knew who TenMuses is in relation to Finnster. It's a major part of his grooming, impossible to miss for even a casual watcher. And more AGPs know about Finnster than about kiwifarms because we're harder to goon to. If he's a tranny, he's aware of Finn, and if he's aware of Finn he's aware of Ten.
 

The rest of the videos on that channel are fucking nauseating.
How are you as a grown man not ashamed you don't just watch fin but you mod and make gay videos

Kind of telling that the old ugly mods all seem to be fucking loaded if that's really where the they life.

Proves why historically sexual shame has been a major force without it with have rich old men dedicating, spending half their life around children watching a young man so greedy he'll chemically alter his body for money and attention.

What the fuck do his parents think seeing him destroy himself what happens when twink death happens and his audience gradually falls away. Wasn't he pretty OK and now he's dealing with depression.

Remember twitch celebrates this
 
When the tenmuses dox was posted, some people went to the video and commented "Larry Edwards" on 416hobbit's original video. Now, those comments with "Larry Edwards" have gone missing, and 416hobbit went out of his way to manually hide the comments of the people who originally commented that.

:story: Guess I found the right marina.
 
When the tenmuses dox was posted, some people went to the video and commented "Larry Edwards" on 416hobbit's original video. Now, those comments with "Larry Edwards" have gone missing, and 416hobbit went out of his way to manually hide the comments of the people who originally commented that.

:story: Guess I found the right marina.
Especially as the other creeps following F1NN are public about their identities and faces, but Tenmuses makes a massive deal about being “unfindable”.

He clearly has something he wants to keep hidden.
 
When the tenmuses dox was posted, some people went to the video and commented "Larry Edwards" on 416hobbit's original video. Now, those comments with "Larry Edwards" have gone missing, and 416hobbit went out of his way to manually hide the comments of the people who originally commented that.

:story: Guess I found the right marina.
He has been deleting comments since hour 0. Some were gone within minutes.
 
Decided to compile everything we currently have (since the Tenmuses IP to email to Larry connection initially broke) on Larry and Edward and their links to the Tenmuses alias. Why did I do this? Great question. An attempt to win the “#1 autist on Kiwifarms” trophy? A cry for help? An attempt to get noticed by daddy Null so that he’ll give me $300k for femboy surgeries so I can finally become a true and honest woman? You decide.

Background (dox/pre-dox) Info on F1nn and Tenmuses​

  • F1nn uses the “Rose” name for his femboy shit on stream for the first time on 10th May 2020
  • Tenmuses shows up in F1nn’s chat and starts sending him absurd amounts of money to do femboy shit some time around July 2022 (first mention of him on the F1nnster reddit is a $1k donation in July 2022).
  • Probably some other shit but I only showed up in-thread after the dox so this is all I care about.
  • @notorietus acquires some important information about accounts linked to tenmuses@gmail.com. Important details include:
    • Accounts: Imgur, LastFM, Plex TV, and Twitter accounts under “tenmuses”
    • LastFM account made 2009; Twitter account made 2021
    • “Tenmuses432” as the Tenmuses twitter name
    • “dutch432” as the Imgur password
    • A “last accessed” IP address (50.27.102.54) on the PlexTV account (with no date of access, though it says “PlexTV 2015” in the breach title and PlexTV has only existed since 2009) that links to an email address (lde432@suddenlink.net) with the password “dutch432”
  • u/TenMuses-1 was apparently living/travelling in South America during 2022, at least partially with the aim of learning spanish. Seems like he was specifically in Medellin / Colombia.

Larry Dewayne Edwards links:​

Internet footprint:​

Finances & location:​

Circumstantial shit:​

Ethan Kane Edwards / Briar Elizabeth Edwards links:​

Digital footprint:​

  • Ethan also uses “432” in his emails, and “[country]432” for his passwords, according to this post on “eke432@gmail.com”:
    • Accounts: Livejournal, Neopets, Nexusmods, Twitter, Zynga
    • Most are connected to the karijou username, and Livejournal, Neopets have “norway432” as password
    • His lastip for Neopets is 134.10.28.168, different to the TenMuses PlexTV one in the initial dox.
    • Also a “karilotl” twitter too.
    • Some kiwis have speculated the “432” and password similarities are indicative of Ethan actually being behind the Tenmuses accounts above; others have said it’s probably just a kid who picked up username/password habits from his dad. Someone else pointed out other terminally online lolcow families have shared retarded password habits in the past.
  • There’s some other Ethan emails/accounts too that I won’t go into detail on but:
    • There’s no “432” anywhere
    • The only IP in it doesn’t match the Tenmuses one,
    • It includes a PlexTV username ethan.edwards, which indicates Ethan has his own, separate PlexTV account to Tenmuses (I guess he could have created a new one though?).
  • Ethan’s livejournal writing style doesn’t really match Tenmuses’ style at all.

Finances & location:​

Circumstantial shit:​

  • He’s a troon. Listed on his now-deleted or hidden LinkedIn as “Briar Edwards”, with Edward as a previous name. Formally changed gender and name to F and “Briar Elizabeth Edward” in January 2024 in Oregon (archive here, and here), and is presumably out to his family on the basis of this February obituary that refers to him as Briar and a “granddaughter”.
  • Someone linked his FB account on the Farms (without archiving, though people who saw it have vaguely described the content here and here, and there’s a copy of his profile pic). An hour later, someone posts a screenshot of F1nnster’s discord saying Kiwifarms is doxing Tenmuses. Approximately 26 hours after the FB link is posted, Ethan’s LinkedIn is found, but it’s already been deleted. Minutes after the LinkedIn find, it’s confirmed Ethan’s FB has been hidden/privated.
    • Some kiwis argue the rapid DFE from Ethan is proof he’s Tenmuses.
    • Some kiwis argue daddy realised he was being doxed and ordered his family to DFE. Other kiwis have argued no one DFEs that quickly on parental request.
    • Alternate argument: if Ethan knows tenmuses is his dad’s alias, and is involved in F1nnster’s community (on account of all troons being terminally online, or something, I guess) or even just vaguely plugged in to the internet (on the basis F1nnster and tenmuses are pretty well known at this point), then he might know tenmuses is his dad, and might have seen the dox announcement in the discord (or be watching the thread!) and have preemptively DFE’d asap (which is what I would do if I realised my dad was about to get outed for funding twitch femboys).
  • He used to be on Livejournal (full archive here) + roleplay a lot (see also here, and here, and a list of LJ aliases here). Also has a DeviantArt account; a twitter account, an AO3 account (more here) with lots of weird violent trans porn on it; is a furry with a tumblr; and has commissioned Pokemon porn.
  • He wrote a weird creepypasta story about a creepy (step-)dad who makes strange noises in the (step-)son’s room, and he also talked about an underage rape scene in some anime making him “remember parts of my own history I try not to fixate on”.
    • Some kiwis have speculated this means he was molested by daddy (or another male relative) as a kid.
    • But he also says in this Livejournal post that he gets along with his dad, and on Reddit he says he was “lucky enough to have parents that at least made an attempt at being actual parents” as opposed to some of his friends who were sexually abused.
  • There Goodreads account registered to the tenmuses gmail, with the name “Larry”, has a lot of things that suggest Ethan:
    • There’s a lot of young adult/classic sci-fi and fantasy (Harry Potter, Neuromancer, His Dark Materials etc.; nearly every Discworld book ever in 2010; Artemis Fowl, which is firmly young adult, in 2010), and some pop-sci economics books. Ethan graduated high school in 2008, so he’d be a bit old for some of these, but not as old as a middle aged radiologist would be.
    • But the conservative books are a point against this; as I said before, maybe Larry added books he was reading to Ethan? Or Ethan was adding books his dad recommended him? The books sort of get added in bulk, like dozens of books all added on the same day.
    • Speculation: sort of weird for a middle aged man to have a Goodreads? I’m under the impression it’s more of a “very online young woman” thing to have.
    • Counterpoint: why set the name as Larry though?

It’s Larry, guys.

All of the Larry-is-tenmuses shit is concrete: direct IP links between tenmuses accounts and Larry accounts, links to Midland TX, overlapping biographical details, and like 16 years’ worth of tenmuses accounts (some of which are still active today) linked to Larry one way or another. We haven’t found a single tenmuses account that conclusively does not belong to Larry. He also fits the profile of the rest of F1nn's paypigs perfectly.

All of the Ethan-is-tenmuses shit is like, “oh he’s a troon and a pervert” (which is true, but is not compelling evidence). Anyone still seriously arguing that Ethan pulled some long con involving stealing his (very tech-savvy) dad’s accounts, impersonating his dad online over a decade, changing his writing style, maintaining two separate internet personae (tenmuses and the kari accounts), and somehow finding half a million on a $100k-ish salary as a young man in Portland with student loans who’s buying his first (very expensive) house… Enjoy your schizoposting, fellow New Zealand agriculturalist.

Something I noticed while autistically compiling all this, though, was that a lot of Tenmuses’ accounts are made 2008 (up to 2010) – the year Ethan goes off to college. Reddit, other forum accounts, Zynga games… they all pop up when Ethan leaves. The picture I get of Ethan and Larry is that they’re both nerds and shared a sci-fi/fantasy/video games/tech interest, and that they did stuff together like play video games or take “which career should you have” tests together or go on vacations (both the u/tenmuses account and Ethan’s livejournal confirm this). I wonder if, when Ethan left, Larry wanted someone to talk to about his hobbies (assuming his wife and three kids under five were not into that stuff) and started intensifying his online presence to make up for having lost the “other man in the house” he could talk to stuff about.

(The more sinister option is that the kid he was abusing escaped off to college and he was looking for another outlet for his urges, but I think if that was the case the u/tenmuses reddit would have weirder shit in it than doctor sperging and book discussions. I’m kind of on the fence about Ethan being abused now honestly. Seems more like he knew a few kids that were being abused, rather than experiencing abuse himself.)
 
How are you as a grown man not ashamed you don't just watch fin but you mod and make gay videos
I think the video was made to start a cult like following around F1NN. They're basically trying to glorify F1NN's life style and his orbiters. They try to create a narrative that F1NN life is very interesting both on-screen and off-screen, that there is something "mysterious" or "secret" about him. Notice how the mod team refer to themselves as the council when in reality they are just unpaid internet jannies and I'm pretty sure the pay pig moderators lost their money to get into that position.

The same can be said about the TenMuses video. They tried to push the narrative that TenMuses is an important, "mysterious" and "secretive" person with a lot of money who should not be bothered because he will dox you if you try to dox him. We all know how that worked out. TenMuses is now exposed as a old creepy pervert who happens to have a lot of wealth to satisfy his depraved fetishes.
 
This probably implies u/tenmuses has no relation to u/TenMuses-1 or Larry... the fact that Finn´s TenMuses had to pick a different username with a -1 added probably relates to the fact that when he was subscribing to Reddit, his username was already taken.
In the US, you need a Bachelors to apply to Medical school. It doesn't matter what it's in, you just have to take certain prerequisite courses and a standardized test. History degrees aren't that uncommon. Easily could have gotten the BA and then applied to medical school after doing some post-bacc classes. It would also make sense with the SDN account where TenMuses claims to have 8 transcripts.
 
That's easily explained in nothing's theory, there's several explanations even.
1. Larry is still lurking in finn's discord, saw them talking about ethan's dox and alerted ethan
2. Ethan is lurking in finn's discord, saw them talking about ethan's dox and closed his facebook
3. Random discord kittens talking about ethan's dox sought him out and alerted him to it
Other than this I think the most likely answer to why "Ethan DFE TOO FAST" is because of people breaking the prime directive. As much as we stress the rules not to interact with lolcows and look don't touch, people definitely do. Whether or not they're members/users or the many many people who orbit this culture and hate us/Josh it doesn't really matter, this was a featured thread. Guaranteed someone contacted them. Just look at the Bossmanjack content to see how many people do it while namefagging. It's very likely as soon as his info was posted weens decided to DM him, and I know I'd delete/private if suddenly a bunch of random people started messaging me and calling me a disgusting creep degenerate faggot with a disgusting creep degenerate faggot father.
 
It's been long enough that I'm curious as to how Larry is taking this and how or if he will respond. There's no way Larry doesn't know about this and isn't bothered by the fact that his reputation and marriage is on the line. Especially not a guy like him, that tries to present himself as a normal conservative dude.

Any bets on what Larry will do? Ignore and hope people forget about it? Deny and say it wasn't him? Try to off himself due to shame? Come out as trans himself? Hell, maybe he'll just try and convince Ethan to take the fall for him instead.

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It's been long enough that I'm curious as to how Larry is taking this and how or if he will respond. There's no way Larry doesn't know about this and isn't bothered by the fact that his reputation and marriage is on the line. Especially not a guy like him, that tries to present himself as a normal conservative dude.

Any bets on what Larry will do? Ignore and hope people forget about it? Deny and say it wasn't him? Try to off himself due to shame? Come out as trans himself? Hell, maybe he'll just try and convince Ethan to take the fall for him instead.

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He didn´t do anything illegal, that we know of, and is allegedly retired - despite still being on the Midland staff page and other medical provider pages. I dont know why he would do anything besides DFE anything related to TenMuses, what he already did just killing the Twitch profile to cap it off.
In my mind, he is not even the worst actor in this whole story - the attention whore crossdresser who is selling his life style for a bunch of retarded boys is by far worse. TenMuses obviously like femboys with pre pubescent characteristics but the faggot started his schtick before him and will continue after. He did it for the money, he is the tumor that remains.
 
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