US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Gorillion others]

I love this so much. The more Biden is in the spotlight, the worse everything gets for all the people I hate. I hope he has the strength to get to November. This might be funniest and most destructive election we've ever seen.

I'd find this situation sad if it wasn't Biden. But it is Biden, so watching him thoroughly embarrass himself, his party, and the absolute shambolic group of faggots who comprise our government over and over and over again gives me perverse joy.

You have no idea how spiteful Democrats can get. Or we do, but they always manage to find a way.

Let's hope it doesn't involve anything more drastic than Covid.

 

[AnotherPleb]

You have no idea how spiteful Democrats can get. Or we do, but they always manage to find a way.

Let's hope it doesn't involve anything more drastic than Covid.

I'm thinking they will double down so hard it'll make Wuflu look like child's play.

 

[mlanguishi]

I'm thinking they will double down so hard it'll make Wuflu look like child's play.

They have to know there's only so much they can bullshit? Right?

 

[AnotherPleb]

They have to know there's only so much they can bullshit? Right?

There isn't enough rainbows in Fag Month for this post.

 

[anti SJW]

They're not going to run Harris as the lead ticket.

Hillary will burn the world to ashes before she let that bitch be the first female PotUS.

So, Kamala will commit suicide.

 

[FieldPiece]

"My wife's giving me hell.....anyways"
Are we sure Joe Biden's entire life isn't one long Norm Macdonald shaggy dog story?

 

[LurkTrawl]

No one is going to let the US go off the rails. We have nukes and it matters to everyone no ideologues or deranged revolutionaries gain actual control over them. The US might become a giant favela with gated communities but as long as no one can blow up the world on a whim TPTB will consider it acceptable.

I almost admire the degree to which you apparently think what's to come is in the hands of men to control. Agree to disagree here I guess, but I think this is an ice-cold take, inconsiderate of much of the problems that we're currently facing.

Plus I fail to see how the contemporary U.S. compares to the late-stage U.S.S.R. except superficially. Realistically the problems are a world apart.

 

[mlanguishi]

Plus I fail to see how the contemporary U.S. compares to the late-stage U.S.S.R. except superficially. Realistically the problems are a world apart.

It's very different because the USSR was a failed 'nation' of uniting a bunch of countries, races, and ethnicities that all hated each other except for marxism as the 'final solution' to solve those things. When the ideology failed by the late 70s, it was doomed to split.

The US has no such thing since the manifest destiny idea and that was over 100 years ago. The USSR could easily split, and did, among its previous states. The USA just can't. It's way too integrated. At most you might split the left coast off with the mid/south as one, and the northeast of PA/MD as a 3rd.

That's not to say there couldn't be another break up and civil war, but it would be far less clear than the 1860's one with lines easily drawn.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

You remember that stupid skibidi Biden video that Colbert aired? You remember the lyric "Trump is using Hitler's language?"

Well a thought occurred to me, what if the whole point of comparing right wingers to Fascists and Nazis is to get right wingers to investigate those groups to better understand them, the differences between them and their own politics, solely so they can reinforce the accusation of Fascism and Nazism by using that acquired knowledge as evidence to the claim?

The accusation itself is a catch 22, you either don't know anything about the Fascist or Nazi parties, therefore you can't readily defend yourself out of ignorance which gives the upper hand to the leftoid, while having the acquired knowledge with which to refute the claim only stands to reinforce the accusation itself.

This thought occurred to me in furtherance of another thought, as I was watching this English translated speech Hitler gave at a beer hall.

As I listened to this speech, I began comparing and contrasting it to the way Trump speaks because he's always compared to Hitler. Trump and Hitler speak nothing alike, Trump is always hyping himself up, what a great president he was, how he's going to fix every problem, how great things were going before he left office, how Biden sent the US into a tailspin, ect.

Hitler is entirely different, he never speaks about himself or his own importance, but instead goes on to describe Jews as being a sinister, monolithic force solely concerned with undermining and infiltrating a local populace, both by marrying into the elite and using speculative finance to render the worker more impoverished, by creating a uniparty system where a two party political dynamic exists for the purpose of cycling one party out for the other to create the illusion of change while both parties continue striving for the same goals at the behest of Jewish people, ect.

But the simple fact that I now know the genuine difference between Trump's rhetoric and Hitler's "language" further indicts me in the eyes of leftoids who can leverage this newly acquired knowledge of Adolf to retroactively claim that Trump supporters were always secret Nazis all along. "If you're not a Nazi then why are you watching Hitler speeches, bro?"

 

[General Emílio Médici]

But the simple fact that I now know the genuine difference between Trump's rhetoric and Hitler's "language" further indicts me in the eyes of leftoids who can leverage this newly acquired knowledge of Adolf to retroactively claim that Trump supporters were always secret Nazis all along. "If you're not a Nazi then why are you watching Hitler speeches, bro?"

Accusations of Nazism in #CURRENT_YEAR$ are just repackaged heresy accusations. Explaining why they are wrong just makes the accuser double down because if you aren't a heretic how come you know the doctrine?

The best way to deal with such accusations is not even entertain them. "He is using Hitler's language!" "He is speaking english, not german. Blow it out your ass faggot."

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The USSR could easily split

Assuming this isn't bait to lull me into making a comparison of both countries-and I won't-no one in the USSR believed it would fall apart, until it did. Not even Gorby.

No one thought we would have a literal meat puppet controlled by a certain political faction, but we do. No one believes the US will break up, until it does.

 

[mlanguishi]

At best they can say Hitler and Trump were nationalists. Which apparently means 'Right wing' now since Hitler. I've always been taught that fascism and socialism are two sides of the same coin economically. Socialism is almost full control of the economy by the state and fascism had proxy-industries that ran under direct state control. That key difference is why the USSR globalist socialists and Nazis hated each other so much, they were similar on a lot of things economically by opposed on the details. It's always the close apostates that fight the most.

IMO I think the closest Trump gets is to close the borders, which the left considers nationalist/right/evil. They also consider non-citizens being able to vote as a nonissue entirely. That's much like how they consider CRT such a nonfactor that it's crazy to ban it. You know the leftist by what they deny is happening.

These Hitler English AI's are freaking crazy though. Anyone that denies this AI revolution is fooling themselves that it's a major thing going forward.

 

[Dr J]

Well a thought occurred to me, what if the whole point of comparing right wingers to Fascists and Nazis is to get right wingers to investigate those groups to better understand them, the differences between them and their own politics, solely so they can reinforce the accusation of Fascism and Nazism by using that acquired knowledge as evidence to the claim?

Yeah, I think you're overthinking it.

They call conservatives fascists and Nazis because fascists and Nazis are already tainted and associating say, Trump supporters, with Nazis in the minds of low information retards means they never bother to do the due diligence on the former and just dismiss them off-hand. In other words they're inoculating against them

 

[mlanguishi]

Assuming this isn't bait to lull me into making a comparison of both countries-and I won't-no one in the USSR believed it would fall apart, until it did. Not even Gorby.

No one thought we would have a literal meat puppet controlled by a certain political faction, but we do. No one believes the US will break up, until it does.

The USSR survived 3 meat puppets from the late 70s with Brezhnev, Andropov, and Chernenko. It's true that even in the late 80s a lot of Noam Chomsky types thought the USSR was unbreakable and the future, but some saw it coming especially Reagan and Pat Buchanan. When it did break, it broke into the exact same lines as when it started. Even the lower ASSR's broke down more or less the exact same as the early 1900's.

ETA I did say that's it's up in the air now, it's entirely possible some sea change could happen quick and the USA could dissolve into regions and autonomous zones. That's a big, huge reason that Biden needs to go because we're getting close I think.

 

[Ghost of Biden]

The media spin is almost over and CNN is back to fact checking Joe about wholesale inflation prices going up by half in June instead of the economy being saved.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

At best they can say Hitler and Trump were nationalists. Which apparently means 'Right wing' now since Hitler. I've always been taught that fascism and socialism are two sides of the same coin economically. Socialism is almost full control of the economy by the state and fascism had proxy-industries that ran under direct state control. That key difference is why the USSR globalist socialists and Nazis hated each other so much, they were similar on a lot of things economically by opposed on the details. It's always the close apostates that fight the most.

IMO I think the closest Trump gets is to close the borders, which the left considers nationalist/right/evil. They also consider non-citizens being able to vote as a nonissue entirely. That's much like how they consider CRT such a nonfactor that it's crazy to ban it. You know the leftist by what they deny is happening.

These Hitler English AI's are freaking crazy though. Anyone that denies this AI revolution is fooling themselves that it's a major thing going forward.

It's funny how it was right wing neocon and lolbertarians that were pro-oben borders before in the 1980s and such because of cheap labor to undermine local unions and all it took to get leftists to throw workers under the bus was reframe it as a racial issue.

Also the Hitler stuff isn't AI. AI doesn't exist. It's Large Language Models. Different tech entirely.

The USSR survived 3 meat puppets from the late 70s with Brezhnev, Andropov, and Chernenko. It's true that even in the late 80s a lot of Noam Chomsky types thought the USSR was unbreakable and the future, but some saw it coming especially Reagan and Pat Buchanan. When it did break, it broke into the exact same lines as when it started. Even the lower ASSR's broke down more or less the exact same as the early 1900's.

ETA I did say that's it's up in the air now, it's entirely possible some sea change could happen quick and the USA could dissolve into regions and autonomous zones. That's a big, huge reason that Biden needs to go because we're getting close I think.

True but the USSR was a far different beast from the USA. The entire history and heritage of the governmental structures and mentality of them going back to the 800s and Kiev Rus, going by Muscovy and the Tartar invaders and Ivan the Terrible and so on and so forth, the moral basis being Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman law instead of Catholicism/Protestantism and Anglo-Saxon law... These are two vastly different beasts.

 

[Dr J]

Assuming this isn't bait to lull me into making a comparison of both countries-and I won't-no one in the USSR believed it would fall apart, until it did. Not even Gorby.

I think his point was more that the USSR consisted of several nation states who were forced to adhere to some pan-Russian identity. They were told they were Russian, they were made to speak Russian, etc. But they weren't Russian, and when nationalism began to take hold in the USSR and the constituent states said 'We aren't Russian, we're Polish/Lithuanian/Czech/whatever' the whole thing inevitably began to break apart.

You don't have the same thing in the USA because the USA largely consists of people who share the same language, the same history, the same origin (most white Americans come from Britain), the same religion (largely Protestant Christian).

You do, however, have exactly the same thing in Europe. Which is why the unelected Eurocrats' dreams of a United States of Europe was always doomed to failure.

 

[The Gene Genie]

I've always been taught that fascism and socialism are two sides of the same coin economically

Economics no longer really matter in this political-cultural war. Leftists identify themselves by how they speak about certain things. Economics is just a parcel of the motte-and-bailey argument.

 

[TJT]

Old Addy was, without doubt, the very finest orator of the 20th century.

 

[mlanguishi]

Also the Hitler stuff isn't AI. AI doesn't exist. It's Large Language Models. Different tech entirely.

Well excuuusee me..

And yeah, Russia built from tzars and feudalism straight to communist dictatorship. I'm not exactly sure how you can say that affected Lenin and his ideas of overthrowing all the old (same as Mao tried) to replace it with the New World of Perfection of Marxism-Leninism. They did 'progress' from the feudal/divine destiny somewhat to the faux dictatorship of the proletariat. But as always with history things swing back and forth.

I don't see a lot of comparisons with USSR and USA that make sense, from start to finish. The USA is more of a French Revolution progression of ideas. The interesting thing to me is how the communists kept going on about the Paris Commune ideal, which nobody else really cared about at all but Marx sure loved it.

@The Gene Genie
Economics no longer really matter in this political-cultural war. Leftists identify themselves by how they speak about certain things. Economics is just a parcel of the motte-and-bailey argument.

Agree totally, the parties barely have any difference now when it comes to economics and haven't for a long, long time. I personally think most of the differences are about race, the border, and faggotry/troons now than anything that important. The left keeps going on about 'muh democracy' will disappear like Trump did anything that big. It'll be the of the fucking world if he does what really? Finish the wall? Gives up on Ukraine? Neither party is going to change on Israel and Trump isn't going to ban elections. It's all so stupid.

Nobody thinks really that Trump will do the tariff thing that I can tell. And if he did they still wouldn't reduce other taxes like they should. Nobody thinks Biden is going to 'eat the rich' either. All they got out of that IRS massive spending increase was a lousy $1B it seems.