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StarkRavingMad said:
For instance, my emotions are appealed to when people talk about those who suffered from the horrible covid policies (especially children), and I get emotional whenever I see the families of victims of illegal immigrants speak.
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That's not a woman being overly emotional thing, that's just having basic empathy for your countrymen. A rare take nowadays, so I understand the mix up.
 
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UnKillShredDur said:
She wasn't talking to you though, she was talking to normie idiots, and I'm pretty sure a lot of them will eat it up right now.
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Your Girlfriend's Dad said:
If it didn't connect with you, that's fair, but I think they know what they were going for.
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I realize ersatz emotion is normal and scores political points. I still think Lara Trump should have dialed back the smarminess with her closing because it didn't seem genuine. In light of the assassination attempt, the usual artificiality seems more awkward than usual.
 
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murph said:
Scolding the GOP for being perceived as racist is a choice. Nimrata thinks we need right now is some diversity. LOL she's awful.
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You know she's seething that Trump didn't die. It was supposed to be Her Turn to lose with dignity and make millions for doing the needful and one small graph fucked that up for her.
 
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GamerGateSurvivor said:
This is highly plausible. But someone earlier in this thread likened the situation to letting your roommate's cat out hoping it goes play in traffic. That's my theory as to how everything went down.
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Yes, except the cat survived with only a little injury and both your roommate and all the neighbors think you tried to kill it.
 
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Gehenna said:
I have a lot of issues with that bit. Hell itself is... shall we say, undefined biblically. The whole image of it being a burning fire is itself... not actually true. The fire imagery is used to describe it suffering, not its literal existence. In the whole, it describes Hell as a separation from God and a great suffering but not an actual burning hole. The fire imagery is just that, imagery, a description of suffering not literal detailing.

There is also some debate as to if it is actually eternal without possibility of redemption, or eternal so long as you refuse redemption. But that is opening up a whooooooole other can of worms that would be massively derailing.
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sure, we all go to eternal church when we die. if you love God great and if you hate God well, its eternally hellish. that chart says original sin in the western sense which borks the premise a little.
 
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oh no its pipkun said:
"eternity in heaven or hell"? theres a new earth coming after judgement. Oddly enough, Christianity breaks the need for enlightened dharminic reincarnation.

If anything, christianity is found in all religions, more than sikhism is universal. the orthodox say we want to participate and "merge" with the energies of God.
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Merging with God is Eldritch as fuck. I'm down. Get me into this single consciousness
 
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Gehenna said:
This will be a longer bit. In the end I see a lot of similarities between Appalachians and modern Blacks. Now, don't get offended right off the bat. I have a history here of noting how god damned awesome black people used to be before things really went bad.

The short summary of what happened to black people is that post-slavery they had begun making fairly closed-communities that were religious, self-sufficient, and culturally unique. There were -very- strong family units within, with stay-at-home mothers as the men went off to work in industrial and manufacturing jobs where their stronger bodies that made them useful in the fields proved to excel. They found an economic niche and -excelled- within it. And it was the government who sought to break this up, implement policies to weaken their family ties, and along with the death of the jobs they relied upon well...

And that should sound similar to the Appalachians. you say it yourself, they "gave everything to work and were just left to rot". And, in the end, both are kept where they are half by economics far out of their control... and half by themselves, With Blacks glorifying gang culture and 'baby mama' culture. And Appalachians with an odd sort of pride. A pride in how low they have fallen, in 'the old ways' that often are just excuses for their situation. They choose to wallow in their destitution.

In the end, neither group would be fixed by just improving the economy they are in. They would also need a change within to be willing to embrace that opportunity.
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That pretty much nails the situation, it's why I say there are more issues outside of racial tension affecting the area. Everyone's too downtrodden and low income there to care about race as much, even other blacks that live in the area. With Appalachia it tends to be sort of a pride in what we used to have a strong mining community with good workforce to where we're at it, mixed in with typical southern pride sorts of ideals, so they do tend to share some similarities with broken down black communities.

There are people there that want to work and are always looking but typically they can't find work in the counties they live in and have to go to other counties or into nearby medium sized cities, usually for manual labor factory jobs. It's just a factor of these areas finding new sources of work because many of them were not prepared at all for the mines to shut down and it's been that way for decades. But it's like you said too, like with blacks, it comes down to not having proper opportunities and backward aspects of the local culture, so it's always been a painful issue no matter which way you look at it.

WeeKee Leeks said:
As an atheist it really seems to me that the only religion that cannot eventually get along is islam, everyone else is reasonable enough now.
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Islam is simply too opposed to western ideals; they want to subjugate those that don't believe in Mohammed and have permission in their holy book to lie and subvert and murder to conquer the infidels. They inherently can't find common ground to coexist with Christians, Jews, or other faiths. They can't even reform their faith like Christianity has done because everything written by Mohammed is deemed the direct word of God so to alter it or open up to different interpretations crosses over into blasphemy for them which is punishable by death under Sharia Law. Not to mention even forcing non-Muslims to pay extra tax, that's purely a dick move.
 
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Gehenna said:
Neither? Not out of the realm of possibility but frankly... the Deep State -needs- to be damaged. The federal level administration has become a monstrous beast gorging itself on the flesh of the voter. Entire sections, the majority even, exist soley to propagate themselves and serve no other true purpose or whose purposes have atrophied to such an extent that they easily could be combined to cut down on the sheer, overwhelming bloat.

That's without even getting in to how congress has systematically abdicated the majority of its responsibilities, or how the various three letter agencies have gone so far and beyond their actual mandate as to become hostile domestic entities. If he does nothing else but take a sledgehammer to this beast then he has done the entire -world- a favour.
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From infinity pages ago, but I want to add to this.

People have been talking lately about how AI is going to take so many jobs. The first, absolutely, ought to be government jobs. There is no better way to cut costs than to automate bureaucratic functions. It has the added benefit of eliminating avenues for corruption, bias and incompetence. With Vance's connections to Peter Thiel, I expect this to be broached in a Trump pres.

If you want a way to actually balance the US budget, then this is how you do it. Audit the fuck out of it, and then make sure than any and all changes are triple checked, but roboticize the government now.
 
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