Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 66 13.9%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 11.8%
  • This Year

    Votes: 74 15.5%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 164 34.5%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 116 24.4%

  • Total voters
    476
I agree it makes winning the next lawsuit easier and it is a nice reprieve, but it isn't the end. It provides a level of certainty to know that something is over and you can do other things.
Since this case started in 2020- as far as I understand- a dismissal without prejudice would be equivalent to a dismissal with prejudice. It's beyond the statute of limitations. Just as much 'over.'
 
Can we get a countdown banner at the top of the thread, showing how many days until Greer must respond to all of the motions?
he has infinite time to do anything he wants and the courts will let him get away with anything. if he shoots me the civil courts will probably still rule in his favor. give it up.

i'm so sick of people trying to analyze this logically. it's not a computer program. it's a bunch of dudes who HATE me, who HATE this website, and are looking for ANY excuse to let Greer get away with what he's doing. The judges are basically acting as his counsel, they're filing motions on his behalf, they're interpreting arguments he didn't make and don't exist, they're granting them based on standards that don't fucking apply and never have. Do you get it? We're the bad guys, therefore we don't get an easy way out of any problems, because we make fun of people. This is not the United States where there's a first amendment and equity in justice. This is the United States where copyright law is a free pass to do whatever the fuck you want, at other people's expense, and normal people can get fucked to death.

What am I going to do? Appeal to the 11th??? lol! appeal to the 10th???? lol!!!!!!!!! appeal to SCOTUS on an election year where the president just got shot at? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! funny jokes.
 
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Holy shit, she looks like Mint Salad. And Mint is adopted. And Rossman is old enough to be Mints mom..... what if....
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he has infinite time to do anything he wants and the courts will let him get away with anything. if he shoots me the civil courts will probably still rule in his favor. give it up.

I meant for it to cut down on the inevitable "when's the latest deadline" posts we'll be getting over the next few weeks. Also as a running gag, expecting to have to reset it every other ruling.

What am I going to do? Appeal to the 11th??? lol! appeal to the 10th???? lol!!!!!!!!! appeal to SCOTUS on an election year where the president just got shot at? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! funny jokes.

We already knew you're the designated Nigger Of The Internet, sir.
 
What am I going to do? Appeal to the 11th??? lol! appeal to the 10th???? lol!!!!!!!!! appeal to SCOTUS on an election year where the president just got shot at? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! funny jokes.
Since we're trying silly things, you could also appeal to the court of public opinion and then appeal to Russ's sense of decency.
 
The judges are basically acting as his counsel, they're filing motions on his behalf, they're interpreting arguments he didn't make and don't exist, they're granting them based on standards that don't fucking apply and never have. Do you get it?
The irony is you remove the swear word and it's verbatim something Russell might write.
 
There is no doubt Null is being discriminated against here

But the real issue is that there is no remedy for it. No one to appeal to. No higher power to call in. Every where Null turns there is just more assholes.

It sucks but I honestly don't have a clue what he should do. When the justice system itself is complicit in your torment where do you go?
 
he has infinite time to do anything he wants and the courts will let him get away with anything. if he shoots me the civil courts will probably still rule in his favor. give it up.

i'm so sick of people trying to analyze this logically. it's not a computer program. it's a bunch of dudes who HATE me, who HATE this website, and are looking for ANY excuse to let Greer get away with what he's doing. The judges are basically acting as his counsel, they're filing motions on his behalf, they're interpreting arguments he didn't make and don't exist, they're granting them based on standards that don't fucking apply and never have. Do you get it? We're the bad guys, therefore we don't get an easy way out of any problems, because we make fun of people. This is not the United States where there's a first amendment and equity in justice. This is the United States where copyright law is a free pass to do whatever the fuck you want, at other people's expense, and normal people can get fucked to death.

What am I going to do? Appeal to the 11th??? lol! appeal to the 10th???? lol!!!!!!!!! appeal to SCOTUS on an election year where the president just got shot at? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! funny jokes.
I've said it before, the first Judge dismissing shows that Utah is willing to rule in your favor

The only reason this judge has let this farce go on for so long is because the appeals court basically ordered him to. He can't say it's bullshit and throw it out on the face of it because a higher court said it isn't bullshit.

Him tossing the case to Florida also shows a willingness to rule against Russ for inaction, and he only took it back because Florida broke the law to refuse taking the case, and he can't throw it back without breaking the same laws
 
he has infinite time to do anything he wants and the courts will let him get away with anything. if he shoots me the civil courts will probably still rule in his favor. give it up.
I do not agree at all. I understand that it is extremely painful because you are intimately involved. But this court has ruled against Greer when it sent the case to Florida. Even if it did so for selfish reasons it shows that the court hates something more than it hates you.

Things seem to have a logic to them, even if that logic is immensely retarded.

Before you call me retarded consider that I predicted both that the Transfer to Florida would ultimately accomplish nothing and could be transferred back despite the rules saying it couldn't be transferred back. I predicted these things long before they happened.

Not everything I predicted has been right or will be right especially as I was learning how this case was different from other cases.

Remember when the case Melinda Scott filed against you without prejudice? You were extremely unhappy about that then for a legitimate reason. She had the ability to sue you again and you couldn't punish her for it because she didn't have any money you could take. But then she sued you again and lost with prejudice.

Plz no ban
 
Things seem to have a logic to them, even if that logic is immensely retarded.
the logic straight up contradicts the rules of the court. I am playing by rules he is not. I am paying for someone to play by rules he is not. I am paying someone to win the opinion of a judge whose acting as counsel and filing and favorably interpreting motions and arguments which do not exist.

You're an annoying prick.

This is honestly so fucking annoying, stupid, and such a slap to the fucking face I am considering if I want to return to the dead gay country. Surely, surely there's some fucking place where I am not bound to deal with RETARDS like this and a government who for some reason thinks that a retard's SHIT song completely trumps free expression.
 
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Chin up, pal, he's fucking homeless, and moreso, he's fucking Russell Greer.

The courts are fucking shit for everyone. I mean Donald fucking Trump is still on the hook for a bunch of shit, and he's a billionaire AND has God's hand protecting him.

I don't think your location matters too much, be where you are comfortable. You got a guy dealing with this, it's just an annoyance that WILL eventually go away. You got a war chest from people who support you.

Honestly, I'm not good at trying to cheer people up or talk them down from a ledge or whatever, so this probably isn't helping.

Like it or not, you're some version of a celebrity, and instead of paparazzi, you get Russ. Hit the gym, hit the range, suck it up and get on with it. Life will take care of your enemies because God has seen fit to make them clowns.
 
Chin up, pal, he's fucking homeless, and moreso, he's fucking Russell Greer.
I do not care about him. I have never cared about him. If he's happy or not doesn't matter. If he's homeless or in a mansion does not matter. I am held at gunpoint by a court system that does not follow its own fucking rules, ever, to litigate a court case about copyright that has literally nothing to do with copyright and has never been about copyright and even in the fucking appeals decision has nothing to do about copyright.

This is replicable court based harassment that the court is actively participating in and setting up structure and precedent for. The court should not be inventing rules to give Russell more time, more chances, more opportunity when they know, absolutely and concretely, based off four years of filings, that nothing productive will come out of it. They are creating problems for me to pay to solve, without any promise that continuing to play by their rules will actually solve them.

Pro se litigants should be held to the standards of the court. They should not be favorably interpreted over and over again, not given free ammo they didn't ask for, not given time extensions that simply DO NOT EXIST in the books. It's fucking BULLSHIT, and there is NO appeals process for it because the appeals is WORSE. The cure is WORSE than the ailment.

Like how many fucking times is this going to happen? How many more people are going to dump cost free wastes of fucking time that the judges just smile and parade around like ugly little pugs that are just so stupid and cute at my fucking expense????

And fuck your "this exists everywhere", it fucking DOES NOT. No other country in the world permits random people to file bullshit like this. If I became an expat and hosted someplace less retarded my life would be 1000x easier, the only reason I haven't is because I really want the US to stop being so fucking shit because we have no avenues for political change. Who do I petition for copyright and pro se litigant reforms? My ass, that's who. Nobody fucking cares.
 
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It is what it is, man. It sucks, it's wrong, it's fucking evil, but it's also not going to change.

You can get mad about it, you can fling yourself against it Heemeyer style (ideally with a higher body count), or you can figure out a way to use it to your advantage. Cause while it doesn't change for you, it doesn't change for anyone else either. And offense is more fun than defense.
 
Like how many fucking times is this going to happen? How many more people are going to dump cost free wastes of fucking time that the judges just smile and parade around like ugly little pugs that are just so stupid and cute at my fucking expense????
The more bullshit cases there are, the more fees the courts get to collect. It makes alot of sense when you look at it from a self interest angle. The judiciary tries to be self funded, and even though a Pro Se mongoloid pays nothing, their victims invariably have too. Which is money in the bank as far as the judge is concerned.

That's my tinfoil theory anyway.
 
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