What do you think of conservative atheism?

[Male Idiot]

Climate change doesn't matter because due to nigger welfare and the destruction of academia we will never become an interstellar species, humanity will slowly die out after peak oil because we have a shitskinned fat lipped ball and chain strapped to our collective ankles and anyone who enters the institutions that could help change things is coopted by kike morality.

So since we're doomed to live only on this planet it doesn't matter how long it lasts, radical individualism is the only correct answer. If some event happens which solves the racial issue the west is facing then sure I will eat the bugs for the good of my race but there is literally no point in minmaxing unless you want to minmax in every area of society, meaning TND/JQ resolved. I will not degrade myself to benefit shitskins.

Yerrow man got you covered.

I wish that were more true.
Sadly they only worship social progress, and science is immediately ignored when it offers neutral of the "wrong" answer.
Science is just a tool that they would love to have monopoly over, but that tool cannot be possessed by mere mortals, as it is just a description of how things observably work. It's irrelevant that some dirty sperg tries to sell their retard juice as science, cause if it fails the observable reality/can we reproduce your result shit, it's no longer science, just another type of propaganda.

I said Soyence, not scientific method. Science is pozzed nowdays, infected by the woke religion ever since ww2 made it haram.

 

[ilovejews]

Not especially, no. If my reasoning is not intuitively obvious to you, you're just as deranged and psychopathic as your previous post implies.

Well do go on, what determines an action to be evil? Please no "it makes me feel bad" or "you're an insane sociopath".

 

[Male Idiot]

Well do go on, what determines an action to be evil? Please no "it makes me feel bad" or "you're an insane sociopath".

It is bad for the nation's long term survival. This makes sense in a non mutt world where you have some very distinct relation with your fellows.

Thus things not evil: giving foreign parasites some delouser.

 

[Mukhrani]

If viewed objectively and not through anti-christian lens, and we take that the stories about his life were mostly true, Jesus seems like a good spirited, helpful and peaceful fellow. He just wanted his hippie commune and grill fish with his buddies, but the other jews didn't like that at all. There is an intriguing tinfoil theory that he survived his execution and went to live in Japan as a monk.

Jesus was pretty radical. Peter was convinced that he was going to overthrow the Romans and win the Jews back their power and their temporal kingdom. He didn't want to do that, but he didn't want to just hang out on the commune either. Everything he did in life was geared towards his own death, while everyone else thought he was some revolutionary who had come to establish an eternal Jewish Empire. That's why when Peter pulled out his sword to fight the Romans Jesus chastised him, told him to put it away, and went off to be gruesomely executed without a fight. He got to that point by being brutally uncompromising in a way that antagonized the temporal authorities and priesthood at the time - there were hundreds of opportunities for him to just go chill and not cause any problems and he didn't take any of them.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I don't see how that follows at all. You already easily reject every religious morality except for one anyway; what gives those ones any inherent superiority to "man-made" moral systems?

Because human beings are by definition not a higher power, and further, one interpretation of the higher power above us is going to be the correct interpretation.

Climate change doesn't matter because due to nigger welfare and the destruction of academia we will never become an interstellar species, humanity will slowly die out after peak oil because we have a shitskinned fat lipped ball and chain strapped to our collective ankles and anyone who enters the institutions that could help change things is coopted by kike morality.

So since we're doomed to live only on this planet it doesn't matter how long it lasts, radical individualism is the only correct answer. If some event happens which solves the racial issue the west is facing then sure I will eat the bugs for the good of my race but there is literally no point in minmaxing unless you want to minmax in every area of society, meaning TND/JQ resolved. I will not degrade myself to benefit shitskins.

Atheist morality also says that there is nothing wrong with being the heebiest heeb on the planet and jewing over all non-heebs, or by being the niggiest nig and nigging whatever you feel like from the whites. After all, if you have no inherent ground for their morality, what's so wrong about jewing people and societies or taking yo gibz?

It is bad for the nation's long term survival. This makes sense in a non mutt world where you have some very distinct relation with your fellows.

Thus things not evil: giving foreign parasites some delouser.

Atheism doesn't give the nation any inherent value either. That can only come from a religious-esque philosophy. All sorts of nationalism can be a religion, but at that point are you really an atheist any more?

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

That can only come from a religious-esque philosophy. All sorts of nationalism can be a religion, but at that point are you really an atheist any more?

Yes, Your weird implication that living according to any kind of philosophy whatsoever is inherently religious and that a "true atheist" must be a base and mindless hedonist with no moral code is incredibly stupid.

 

[Male Idiot]

Atheism doesn't give the nation any inherent value either. That can only come from a religious-esque philosophy. All sorts of nationalism can be a religion, but at that point are you really an atheist any more?

Not really. Nations, by non USA definition, are basically bigger tribes, clans and so on. There is a certain implied kinship. All Scots are more related to other Scots than lets say Serbs, and all Serbs are more related to Serbs than to a True Scotsman. They form a genetic and cultural unit. An extended extended family, if you will.

You improve your genetic fitness by improving the fitness of your in group. This is the same reasoning that you help your brother's kid, and so on.

Whatever passes for nationalism in the US is an outlier, not the norm. Ethno nationalism is the standard, and it comes directly from biology.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Yes, Your weird implication that living according to any kind of philosophy whatsoever is inherently religious and that a "true atheist" must be a base and mindless hedonist with no moral code is incredibly stupid.

But how is it wrong? The core definition of atheism is that there is no higher power. If there is no higher power, you have zilch to base your morals on. It's a world with no meaning and leaves you nothing but an animal. Atheism cannot assign moral value to anything, nor criticize others, therefore it amounts to animalistic behavior.

We ought be thankful there are so few true atheists out there and most are actually religions like science, communism, or nihilism that are slightly less morally bleak than atheism.

Not really. Nations, by non USA definition, are basically bigger tribes, clans and so on. There is a certain implied kinship. All Scots are more related to other Scots than lets say Serbs, and all Serbs are more related to Serbs than to a True Scotsman. They form a genetic and cultural unit. An extended extended family, if you will.

You improve your genetic fitness by improving the fitness of your in group. This is the same reasoning that you help your brother's kid, and so on.

Whatever passes for nationalism in the US is an outlier, not the norm. Ethno nationalism is the standard, and it comes directly from biology.

Sure, but what does any of that matter if you're an atheist? Why does your nation/tribe matter when there's nothing to give it meaning? Atheism has no values beyond higher powers not existing, which leaves a meaningless world.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

But how is it wrong? The core definition of atheism is that there is no higher power. If there is no higher power, you have zilch to base your morals on.

Long-term well being has intrinsic value to any living being that's not completely deranged. You can look empirically at what has worked best for securing that for others in the past and model yourself on that - it's really nowhere near as difficult as you make it seem.

And if you're going to say "there's no reason to care about your long-term well being without a higher power", then you're too much of an irrational zealot to bother talking to.

nihilism that are slightly less morally bleak than atheism.

lol wut

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Long-term well being has intrinsic value to any living being that's not completely deranged. You can look empirically at what has worked best for securing that for others in the past and model yourself on that - it's really nowhere near as difficult as you make it seem.

And if you're going to say "there's no reason to care about your long-term well being without a higher power", then you're too much of an irrational zealot to bother talking to.

The minute you start looking empirically, you're adopting a religion like worshipping science. You are trying to construct to the best of your ability a framework for the world that exists independently from reality.

Yes, if there are no higher powers, why care about your long term well-being? You're just gonna be wormfood, and it doesn't matter if you get there tomorrow or in a century, so do whatever you feel like be it rape and murder, do drugs, or commit suicide.

lol wut

Nihilism is similar to atheism but most nihilists make their own morality. It's like one step above atheism so still a horrible religion, but most nihilists don't have the same morality that leads to anything being permissible.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

The minute you start looking empirically, you're adopting a religion like worshipping science.

Basing future decisions on the evidence of past experience is a "religion" and "worshipping science".

That is officially the dumbest-fuck thing I've ever read on Kiwi Farms, which is a hotly contested title.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Basing future decisions on the evidence of past experience is a "religion" and "worshipping science".

That is officially the dumbest-fuck thing I've ever read on Kiwi Farms, which is a hotly contested title.

Yes, because you are applying scientific standards of evidence toward questions like "is drug abuse bad?" Science says drug abuse hurts your body long-term, but an atheist has no intrinsic reason to care about the long-term. You have to walk down the road toward worshipping science and Darwinism to actually care about the long-term beside your animalistic impulses.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

an atheist has no intrinsic reason to care about the long-term

This conversation has become too retarded for me to entertain any further.

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

Yes, because you are applying scientific standards of evidence toward questions like "is drug abuse bad?" Science says drug abuse hurts your body long-term, but an atheist has no intrinsic reason to care about the long-term. You have to walk down the road toward worshipping science and Darwinism to actually care about the long-term beside your animalistic impulses.

What the Hell does any of this even mean?? You do realize most scientists are atheists, right? If atheists didn’t care about the long-term, why would they make up significant portions of the medical and scientific communities? The comforts of modern life would be completely out of reach if it wasn’t for these people.

Actually, scratch that. This is too fucking stupid to even partake in seriously.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

Actually, scratch that. This is too fucking stupid to even partake in seriously.

It's interesting how certain religious people become the most cartoonish caricatures of absurd radical skepticism about everything besides their own religious beliefs.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

What the Hell does any of this even mean?? You do realize most scientists are atheists, right? If atheists didn’t care about the long-term, why would they make up significant portions of the medical and scientific communities? The comforts of modern life would be completely out of reach if it wasn’t for these people.

Actually, scratch that. This is too fucking stupid to even partake in seriously.

Because they aren't actually atheists. I can't think of a single atheist scientist. People like Richard Dawkins, Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking, etc. aren't actually atheists, but science worshippers, presumably so are most of those scientists you're talking about (although the guy who invented MRIs believed the world is 6,000 years old lol). They try and moderate the base immorality of belief in nothing by believing in science.

Worshiping science is not atheism. Atheism has no gods, while science worshippers of course worship science as its own god. Science worshippers believe science and so-called empirical evidence informs our morality, and that human morality ultimately arises from physics (interaction of subatomic particles that is the basis of biology and evolution) which are as they are because of the outcome of the Big Bang. Claiming a science worshipper is an atheist because they don't believe in gods is like claiming a Buddhist is an atheist because they don't either. The dharma in Buddhism is similar to science for science worshippers, but science worship is such a pitiful, miserable religion they hold few other doctrines.

It's interesting how certain religious people become the most cartoonish caricatures of absurd radical skepticism about everything besides their own religious beliefs.

I'm incredibly skeptical of my own beliefs. That's why I used to think I was an atheist, even though I worshipped science. Self-described "skeptics" like Richard Dawkins and James Randi are some of the least skeptical and most dogmatic people out there.

 

[Deer]

Jesus was pretty radical. Peter was convinced that he was going to overthrow the Romans and win the Jews back their power and their temporal kingdom. He didn't want to do that, but he didn't want to just hang out on the commune either. Everything he did in life was geared towards his own death, while everyone else thought he was some revolutionary who had come to establish an eternal Jewish Empire. That's why when Peter pulled out his sword to fight the Romans Jesus chastised him, told him to put it away, and went off to be gruesomely executed without a fight. He got to that point by being brutally uncompromising in a way that antagonized the temporal authorities and priesthood at the time - there were hundreds of opportunities for him to just go chill and not cause any problems and he didn't take any of them.

It is rather crazy. I hate how people say that Jesus was le good teacher and uhh a funny hippie because he was either God or a madman. Perhaps that is the beauty of being a Christian.

 

[Lowlife Adventures]

If there is no higher power, you have zilch to base your morals on.

an atheist has no intrinsic reason to care about the long-term.

Yes, if there are no higher powers, why care about your long term well-being? You're just gonna be wormfood

You keep asserting this, as if atheists are some homogeneous group of people. There are definitely some of those selfish overly nihilistic atheists, but I don't know if they're the majority.

I'll grant you that without belief in a higher power, there's less incentive to act morally. But that doesn't mean it's impossible. Is it too much for you to imagine that many atheists, just like religious people:
1) don't want to see harm come to those who don't deserve harm;
2) and want to see themselves and people they think are good to benefit and prosper

 

[grump]

Atheism actually is more of a fit for the right wing than it ever was for the left.

Who is the magic man in the sky dictating everyone is equal and everyone deserves this this and that in the atheist libtard worldview? Since most atheists are libtards it just goes to show people haven't abandoned religion/cults so much as simply switched religions/cults.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

You keep asserting this, as if atheists are some homogeneous group of people. There are definitely some of those selfish overly nihilistic atheists, but I don't know if they're the majority.

I'll grant you that without belief in a higher power, there's less incentive to act morally. But that doesn't mean it's impossible. Is it too much for you to imagine that many atheists, just like religious people:
1) don't want to see harm come to those who don't deserve harm;
2) and want to see themselves and people they think are good to benefit and prosper

My contention is that true atheists are practically non-existant, because atheism is logically a selfish, vile religion because when no god exists, everything goes. Most so-called atheists worship gods like science and use that to develop a worldview and morality. You can't call these people atheists anymore than you can call a devout Buddhist an atheist just because Buddhists believe gods (who in Buddhism are basically treated as aliens) are ultimately inferior beings just as subject to universal laws as humans are.

Atheism actually is more of a fit for the right wing than it ever was for the left.

Who is the magic man in the sky dictating everyone is equal and everyone deserves this this and that in the atheist libtard worldview? Since most atheists are libtards it just goes to show people haven't abandoned religion/cults so much as simply switched religions/cults.

That's only Christianity (or Islam) where God proclaims everyone is equal before him. Other religions are ethnocentric or have beliefs that assume a hierarchy. Buddhism and Hinduism presumes that a high reincarnation in this world is being reborn in a family of wealthy whites or Jews but a low reincarnation is being born a black person in the ghetto.

The only Christian doctrines that even make sense for right-wingers who care about immigration or race is Christian Identity where white people are the new Chosen People after Jews killed Jesus. Which is an asspull on the level of how Episcopalian ordain gays and lesbians and ultimately the Bible is a proto-globalist text, worse than the Quran even since at least the hadith establish Arabs as the superior race.