US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

And due tell what your grand strategy is for convincing the most propagandized and ardent democrats supporters to start voting for the RepubliKKKans? That one demographic is probably the hardest to sway to your side. White college educated women think abortion is a religious rite of passage. The men think merely being white is a sin. Neither care about working class whites, in fact, they actively despise and mock them for not just going to college like them.

The only way you could convince that group to start voting red is to destroy modern higher education. Something that will only be possible if the right wins. And will only bare fruit in a generation or two. Which again, is dependent on dismantling the propaganda machine and denying its resurrection.

we will forgive all of your student loan debt as long as you vote for us and we will also give you subsidized that we confiscated from BlackRock Vanguard and other massive multinational investment firms.
we will get rid of all the homeless drug addicts shiting up your upscale neighborhoods

 

[Gehenna]

@Gehenna

>Key 8: "No Social Unrest" is actually correct! Specifically, it is meant to be -sustained- unrest, consistent protests and action not a general feeling of unease. Trump's assassination attempt does nudge the needle but still, going off the methodology, does not quite hit it. This one is more or less a "Well-defined, but not intuitive".

Conservatives don't chimp out, but they and many who aren't on the left certainly rather unrestful. On top of that, the rising crime rates and rising illegal immigration makes me argue that this key actually counts against chomo joe

What about Grover Cleveland?

What about the pro-Palestine protests?

That's not what unrest means in this context. Hence "Well-defined, but not intuitive". For unrest think widespread protests with general interest, like the Vietnam protests or Civil Rights movement. The Palestine Protests are... well, there almost entirely a Left-Wing issue. The rights gives negative shits about it and so it wouldn't fall under the "General interest" section. Mind the other mentioned things are getting to this point but so far the tension is rumbling beneath he service without action.

As to Cleveland. one data point is hard to extrapolate from and there were a lot of reasons that Harrison was a weak incumbent so drawing accurate data from that is.... well, not gonna happen.

Hogan also had his lawsuit against Gawker funded by Peter Thiel, who made the largest donation in history to a Senate candidate for JD Vance's Senate run in 2022. Something that I learned a little while ago is that Trump relied heavily on private intelligence agencies to do his spy work as PotUS, bypassing the CIA. Thiel's Palantir is the largest and most sophisticated private intel agency, AFAIK.

It's interesting that we may be seeing the privatization of the Shadow Government. Concerning? Maybe. The current situation is bad enough that I'm willing to see how it plays out. Sort of like Trump in general. I'd bet some NRx people could expand on all of that.

This is going to be a major "Regret the consequences of your own actions" for the left. They recently got the SCOTUS case saying that the government asking private companies to do their dirty work for censorship is constitutionally sound. Now that was on standing grounds I agree with (and still hold the case was deliberately fucked over by the people who brought it), but it raises the barrier of entry higher to another case like it.

 

[Dr J]

I doubt Trump getting banned had any significant impact in Elon’s decision to buy Twitter, which by all accounts appears to be an impulse buy that he regretted immediately afterwards but was already legally committed to without any way to back out.

How much did he pay for Twatter? You don't just do that on impulse.

I think the thing is that he realised somewhere in the process that he was massively overpaying and he didn't understand the full scope of what he was buying (hence the whole business with the lawsuits). But I wouldn't describe it as an 'impulse' buy - I genuinely believe he wanted to make Twatter less gay

 

[Michael Wade]

Hogan also had his lawsuit against Gawker funded by Peter Thiel, who made the largest donation in history to a Senate candidate for JD Vance's Senate run in 2022. Something that I learned a little while ago is that Trump relied heavily on private intelligence agencies to do his spy work as PotUS, bypassing the CIA. Thiel's Palantir is the largest and most sophisticated private intel agency, AFAIK.

It's interesting that we may be seeing the privatization of the Shadow Government. Concerning? Maybe. The current situation is bad enough that I'm willing to see how it plays out. Sort of like Trump in general. I'd bet some NRx people could expand on all of that.

Look the see eye aye always was corrupt as shit from its inception. Anything in the short term is better then them. They literally get their budget from illegally selling drugs.

Wrong way around. Trump didn't like Netanyahu congratulating Biden on the election win even after Netanyahu waited as long as possible for things to work out. Trump and Bibi have been working on reconciling.

I would like to hear from the horses mouth before I trust.

How much did he pay for Twatter? You don't just do that on impulse.

I think the thing is that he realised somewhere in the process that he was massively overpaying and he didn't understand the full scope of what he was buying (hence the whole business with the lawsuits). But I wouldn't describe it as an 'impulse' buy - I genuinely believe he wanted to make Twatter less gay

People give him a lot of shit but I feel like the news cycle would be way more closed off and partisan if he hadn't given an outlet for the average Joe.

 

[FedPostalService]

Apparently ISIS is back?

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I wonder if Trump just defeated ISIS originally by telling the US Government to stop funding them when he got in office.
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ISIS has always been at odds with Hamas. It you’re not with them you’re a heretic in their eyes.

 

[Dr J]

Have you looked at Obama's daughters. They look EXACTLY like him.

It looks like he did the deed with Michael.

You know, IVF is a thing that exists

As to Cleveland. one data point is hard to extrapolate from and there were a lot of reasons that Harrison was a weak incumbent so drawing accurate data from that is.... well, not gonna happen.

Perhaps but that's not the same as no historical precedent

 

[mlanguishi]

I guess it's just consequences for all these types..



I guess this runs in the family..

 

[Gehenna]

You know, IVF is a thing that exists

Perhaps but that's not the same as no historical precedent

It -potentially- had no impact which, for predictive purposes, is the same as having no impact. Put simply, there just isn't enough to point to it as decisive. You could try to claim it as precedent but then the question rises of "Okay, prove it, how impactful was it?"

The thing with historical precedent as predictive component is that unless you can narrow its effect down it... isn't precedent. Its at most a correlation. And sadly because it predated most data gathering and archiving for political elections there really is no way at all to answer that question.

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

Anything to stop woke culture I guess.

Yes, anything to stop people who hate us, want us dead, want our kids raped and castrated. Literally anything.

 

[mr_negativity]

Not only have they fucked up bigger than I've ever seen in my life, to the point that I literally can't conceptualize how badly they've fucked up. A collosal fuckup, huge, bigly losers.

I haven't seen much commentary or polling about how the uncertainty and the conflicting messaging about whether or not Biden will be on the ticket is effecting likely voters. Its literally late July and the Democrats now don't know who their candidate will be. You get multiple news reports saying Biden is out, but his campaign staff insisting he's still in. This is a complete and total clusterfuck and symbolizes the lack of leadership and the country has had for the past 4 years. If Biden's out, it should be done in quick and decisive fashion, not by floating trial balloons via press leaks.

Knowing who your nominee for president is such an essential prerequisite for running a winning campaign, but the Democrats won't know this until late August.

 

[MudPeople]

I guess it's too much to hope the Democrat party will split?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I haven't seen much commentary or polling about how the uncertainty and the conflicting messaging about whether or not Biden will be on the ticket is effecting likely voters. Its literally late July and the Democrats now don't know who their candidate will be. You get multiple news reports saying Biden is out, but his campaign staff insisting he's still in. This is a complete and total clusterfuck and symbolizes the lack of leadership and the country has had for the past 4 years. If Biden's out, it should be done in quick and decisive fashion, not by floating trial balloons via press leaks.

Knowing who your nominee for president is such an essential prerequisite for running a winning campaign, but the Democrats won't know this until late August.

Maybe DOCTOR Jill will run for POTUS. Their current problem is that they don't have anything to offer DOCTOR Jill that she doesn't already have. Giving her the real nomination is the only way to up that ante for her.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

I guess it's too much to hope the Democrat party will split?

Yep. They don't really have a good fracture candidate to rally around like the Republicans exploding had with Trump - Everyones either just completely incompetent, or too polarizing in one direction or another to really keep any useful base. And everyone in a position of power to try seems to know this. The only real hope for a change away from biden is if they can actually agree on an alternative, and considering the consistent calls to "step down" and nobody really stepping up, seems they're lacking that.

 

[mlanguishi]

Oooohhhh Ex-ESPN, so tough.

 

[General Disarray]

If anyone else in my generation (X) are like our household, we stopped traditional 9-5 W-2 work.

All of my friends have done a combo of taking union pensions, working gig shifts, bar/bodega work under the table, cleaning jobs. I can only think of one person, my SO, who still clocks into a job and it's not because he has to.

Also, our terrible awful no-good boomer parents are dying, and we're getting inheritances (maybe not you little shits, but me and mine have) and saying fuck this noise and don't plan on Bidening our way off the mortal coil.

 

[Dr J]

I guess it's too much to hope the Democrat party will split?

No, a split seems likely. If they lose this it may destroy the Democratic party as we know it

Oooohhhh Ex-ESPN, so tough.

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In what way is Ronny Jackson not a doctor? Does Obama know, because he was Obama's doctor as well

 

[Overly Serious]

It's not just Mossad in Israel. I just used them as an example because Cellibrite. Mossad's hacking group is actually notoriously bad. The STUXNET fuckup was them. NSA still owns the tech spying space.

And as an aside, it was Kaspersky Labs that actually unearthed and deconstructed Stuxnet. Guess what company just had their products banned in the USA?

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Difference is, Caesar’s assassination was a success.

Difference is Caesar was assassinated by politicians in the opposing party, not a random citizen. That has no parallel in modern US history with assassinations or attempts going back to McKinley. Even if you say the CIA did JFK, it wasn't the Republicans and it sure as shit wasn't Barry Goldwater and Jacob Javits. You could, I suppose, make the case of the CIA/FBI/MIC being a party unto it's own however...

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Damn, that guy is a real firebrand! He should run for President!

 

[Collections Agent]

I guess it's just consequences for all these types..

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I guess this runs in the family..

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These people have gone 8 years with the ability to say whatever vile, evil thing they want as long as it supports the right narrative

It makes me sad. I hope they have some introspection so they can heal.

 

[coldwave]

Also, our terrible awful no-good boomer parents are dying, and we're getting inheritances (maybe not you little shits, but me and mine have) and saying fuck this noise and don't plan on Bidening our way off the mortal coil.

Did your parents rape you or something? lol