Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[TractorGirl]

I for a minute thought it was this
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Also what I thought it was.

The video of Luna “talking” is so creepy. She’s got a lot more teeth since the last “talking” video. Question for the meds in the thread; will she eventually lose the baby teeth, just later compared to a “normal” child? These teeth have taken so long to appear, I’m assuming it’s like the rest of her not growing due to the brain issues.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Agreed, Buna's skin tone looks heavily edited in that one and my tinfoil is that Blob knows it and that's why she's pretending her phone's camera is fucked. Also looks like Buna has blush edited onto her cheeks.

Didn’t Gwen Hartley do the same for her kids as well? They’d have issues with their skin and she would try to cover it up, iirc

 

[Awwtismo]

Also what I thought it was.

The video of Luna “talking” is so creepy. She’s got a lot more teeth since the last “talking” video. Question for the meds in the thread; will she eventually lose the baby teeth, just later compared to a “normal” child? These teeth have taken so long to appear, I’m assuming it’s like the rest of her not growing due to the brain issues.

I want to know the same thing. Does Luna have any lower jaw teeth? I though she had one or two. Could the eruption of her upper baby teeth have anything to due with her high intercranial pressure? Or did those teeth come in when she was much younger and this is the first time we have noticed them due to the camera angle? I'm leaning towards camera angle.
Personally, I think Luna will die before any adult teeth can come in, but I could be wrong. I'm happy Robyn slipped up and posted a few videos of Luna with the eczema still intact. She's probably going to say they were recorded when Luna first started her acemannan supplements.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

About baby teeth;

Around the age of four, the bones in the jaw begin to grow. While the jaw grows, the root area of the baby tooth allows the permanent tooth a place to grow and break through the gums. As the permanent teeth grow through the root area, the baby teeth loosen and will fall out.

She is not growing nor developing properly due to brain damage, so normal tooth and bone development will also not happen. It’s actually a big deal if you don’t lose teeth after a certain period of time, or if they are really late to come in, because that can suggest growth issues and such

I’m not saying it’s not impossible for her to get teeth, just that she may not at all, or only get one or so and to disregard the normal developmental timeline. Kids lose their teeth between the ages of 6 and 12

 

[TractorGirl]

I want to know the same thing. Does Luna have any lower jaw teeth? I though she had one or two. Could the eruption of her upper baby teeth have anything to due with her high intercranial pressure? Or did those teeth come in when she was much younger and this is the first time we have noticed them due to the camera angle? I'm leaning towards camera angle.

In an earlier video she only had one large tooth in the upper front gum. A lot of the teeth haven’t been visible before.

 

[ILikeYou]

When the speech/eating therapist put food in Luna's mouth, and she appears to chew it, is she actually prompted to chew by having food in there, or is this just her regular lip smacking from seizures? Do you think there are other times when they put food in her mouth and she doesn't smack her lips, bc she doesn't have enough brain remaining to know to do that? Is there any kind of reflex that makes people chew when food goes in the mouth?

Also, her 'smile' upon tasting the pb&j on apple slices is not actually a smile, right? It's bizarre, with that big mouth open expression. She doesn't actually ever smile in response to pleasure, does she?

I found it so ridiculous and, frankly quite funny, when, long ago in the thread, Robyn posted a photo of Luna supposedly so 'surprised' by the elephants at the zoo with a big open mouthed look of shock and awe. I just can't believe she passes off stuff like that to her followers as though Luna's having a normal human experience of the world around her.

 

[TractorGirl]

When the speech/eating therapist put food in Luna's mouth, and she appears to chew it, is she actually prompted to chew by having food in there, or is this just her regular lip smacking from seizures? Do you think there are other times when they put food in her mouth and she doesn't smack her lips, bc she doesn't have enough brain remaining to know to do that? Is there any kind of reflex that makes people chew when food goes in the mouth?

Also, her 'smile' upon tasting the pb&j on apple slices is not actually a smile, right? It's bizarre, with that big mouth open expression. She doesn't actually ever smile in response to pleasure, does she?

I found it so ridiculous and, frankly quite funny, when, long ago in the thread, Robyn posted a photo of Luna supposedly so 'surprised' by the elephants at the zoo with a big open mouthed look of shock and awe. I just can't believe she passes off stuff like that to her followers as though Luna's having a normal human experience of the world around her.

According to the medfags she doesn’t respond to stimuli, the lip smacking is seizure related and they just cram the food in there. Her “smiles” are also part of seizure activity. Basically every movement, response or expression is part of the seizures, she’s just an animated seizing living corpse.

 

[BunchofMunch]

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Everything about Luna is so depressing and awful, you get kind of jaded after a while. But damn, sometimes it just hits me so hard, like this video of Luna "talking"; something about it just made me so fucking sad - like this voice were supposed to be driving her parents crazy with all her questions and bossing Atlas around by now, not just making unintelligible noises.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

According to the medfags she doesn’t respond to stimuli, the lip smacking is seizure related and they just cram the food in there. Her “smiles” are also part of seizure activity. Basically every movement, response or expression is part of the seizures, she’s just an animated seizing living corpse

The brain is complicated but what isn’t is understanding MCE. Several parts of the brain control stimuli including the frontal lobe, temporal lobe, and thalamus, amongst other parts. Since brain matter is being replaced (or has already) with cysts, there’s just no way she can do…anything meaningful

You have to think of Luna as constantly short circuiting. Nothing works. Nothing functions right except for the brain stem, cerebellum, part of the spinal cord, basal ganglia, inferior temporal lobes, and orbital surfaces of the frontal lobes

It’s been postulated that Luna is blind and I do not believe that to be the case. Why? The inferior temporal cortex is responsible for vision and that is spared in MCE, which can be visualized on imaging.

Now, even if she can see, she can’t respond, she can’t think, and so on. We do know she can’t close her eyes so she is probably incapable of eye gazing/tracking, but she should be capable of having vision.

Tl;dr she can most likely see but cannot do anything with the information

 

[Breadbear]

The brain is complicated but what isn’t is understanding MCE. Several parts of the brain control stimuli including the frontal lobe, temporal lobe, and thalamus, amongst other parts. Since brain matter is being replaced (or has already) with cysts, there’s just no way she can do…anything meaningful

You have to think of Luna as constantly short circuiting. Nothing works. Nothing functions right except for the brain stem, cerebellum, part of the spinal cord, basal ganglia, inferior temporal lobes, and orbital surfaces of the frontal lobes

It’s been postulated that Luna is blind and I do not believe that to be the case. Why? The inferior temporal cortex is responsible for vision and that is spared in MCE, which can be visualized on imaging.

Now, even if she can see, she can’t respond, she can’t think, and so on. We do know she can’t close her eyes so she is probably incapable of eye gazing/tracking, but she should be capable of having vision.

Tl;dr she can most likely see but cannot do anything with the information

I think it's been established that she's cortically blind. So the structures are there, but there's not enough brain to do anything with it.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

I think it's been established that she's cortically blind. So the structures are there, but there's not enough brain to do anything with it.

It results in cortico visual impairment, not blindness. That’s why I said I think she can see, but her brain can’t do anything with the information. Blindness isn’t a symptom of MCE.

Maybe I’m just being overly nit picky with the word blindness

 

[GenociderSyo]

She can't hear either. Robyn has admitted her ear canals are collapsed plus the fact her brain would have no ability to process hearing.

 

[Ms. Marple]

I really appreciate all the medical insights that are being shared about Luna. It’s grim as hell, but also very fascinating. Gotta wonder how much of that Lizard Woman comprehends or even acknowledges . I just don’t understand how Globyn can live like this. I would need closure. I would need to let Luna go if I understood keeping her alive was pointless. I just couldn’t live the way they live. Blobyn aside, the situation is so darn sad. It’s almost like I can use it to tell myself things aren’t that bad when faced with my own problems. Like “Hey, at least you’re not Luna or in Globyns shoes.” Fuck.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Luna can’t also hear because the auditory cortex isn’t spared. It’s not one of the inferior temporal lobe structures.

 

[TismFarmer]

In the 'Luna speaking' video, can anyone tell what the plastic? looking thing is that's between her legs? I thought it was an ostomy bag for a minute, but I'm pretty sure she's able to poop normally.

 

[Andoxico]

Hypothetically speaking, how would you actually "let Luna go"? It's not like you can just have her put down like a dying dog, right? I don't know the laws regarding people in vegetative states but I'm assuming there's no legal way to just let her pass. If you stop feeding her there will be obvious signs of neglect, and if Luna has survived 5 years they could argue she didn't pass because of her condition but because of your neglect.
Granted, there might not be anyone who'd look into her death, but it's still a possibility - and the chances of that change depending on how you report her death like whether or not you call 911, how you sound when calling 911, etc. Realistically speaking, someone in Robyns position might just be stuck with the potato child until The Big Stroke comes and takes her to the great big patch in the sky.

 

[Ms. Marple]

Hypothetically speaking, how would you actually "let Luna go"? It's not like you can just have her put down like a dying dog, right? I don't know the laws regarding people in vegetative states but I'm assuming there's no legal way to just let her pass. If you stop feeding her there will be obvious signs of neglect, and if Luna has survived 5 years they could argue she didn't pass because of her condition but because of your neglect.
Granted, there might not be anyone who'd look into her death, but it's still a possibility - and the chances of that change depending on how you report her death like whether or not you call 911, how you sound when calling 911, etc. Realistically speaking, someone in Robyns position might just be stuck with the potato child until The Big Stroke comes and takes her to the great big patch in the sky.

I actually asked this a few pages back. The impression I got is that since she’s on hospice care, Robyn could technically withdraw food and give her pain meds and basically let her die. I am not sure about the legalities but it’s not like Luna will ever get better so I don’t see why that wouldn’t be an option. You make a good point about neglect. But I honestly have no clue.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Realistically? Withdrawing food, aka stopping tube feeds. In hospice, not feeding a patient isn’t neglect. Since she is a pediatric patient, Robyn can ask to withdraw food. It’s perfectly legal. Will she? No. Because she’s delusional and things woo woo will cure the cysts.

Kindest way? A little extra morphine coupled with a sedative during the inevitable agonal breathing stage both for comfort, pain and to induce respiratory depression and cause her to stop breathing in a peaceful way. This does happen in real life, just as an fyi. Sometimes doctors will low key order extra morphine, document it as a need due to increased agitation/discomfort. I’m not saying it is done just because. There is a process involving a meeting with the family to discuss last steps and all, and giving doctors permission to carry out orders. So please don’t think I’m saying that doctors are just killing patients blindly or that they are corrupt, evil people. Just that they will help the process a little more when/if warranted and only after talking with families.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Robyn IG:

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

A little extra morphine coupled with a sedative during the inevitable agonal breathing stage both for comfort, pain

Just as an FYI for anyone reading, when a person is in the final stage of dying has agonal breathing, death rattle, etc., the dying person is not aware of it. Things like morphine and anticholinergics (for oral secretions, the cause of the death rattle) are more for the family's benefit to ease their distress, and when you explain to family that these things are a normal part of dying and their loved one isn't distressed, the family find it less distressing.