Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

My prediction is they adapt the Jedi Academy Trilogy into a terrible series next. Imagine it. Black Mara Jade, flat-chested lesbian girlboss Daala, flamingly gay Kyp Durron. It'll hit all the checkpoints.


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Bioware is on its last legs, it is nowhere near getting Kotor3. Maybe in 10 years we'll see a Kotor3, but maybe 20. Similar to Baldur's gate 3, when an other developer buys the rights to the game.

A Kotor 3 is like a Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 to me, it cant be done. Reason? They are a relic from a different time where different devs had different game development ideas. A by product of its time in the best way possible.

Before you say "but muh Baldur's Gate 3", you do realize that game is an anomaly, right? The gaming industry made it clear to us to not expect that to be the norm, disgustingly so.

Kotor 1/2 were made during the time great devs were getting screwed over by small budgets and tight deadlines. Nowadays its mediocre dead inside devs that hate their jobs getting screwed over with tight deadlines and inflated budgets that arent reflected in the final project. Dont get me started on how the first two games werent boycotted with DEI and ESG (tho iirc, these two are practically the same), which B.G 3 was, it just happened to have gameplay good enough most were willing to overlook some of the somewhat held back degeneracy.
I suspect that the Empire gives Force users a "join us or die" speech right then and there and if if the user doesn't say "sure, where do I sign?" immediately, it's "death it is."

What irks me is all the hidden Jedi that keep popping out of the woodwork during and after the Rebellion. Vader spends twenty years being the Emperor's troubleshooter and hunts down all the Jedi that haven't gone to work for the Empire until all that are left are Ben and Yoda. Why don't any of them show up and help train Luke or even just take him out for a cup of coffee and tell him what the old days were like? It isn't like he was obscure after he blows up the Death Star, especially with having a lightsaber and the last name of a fallen Jedi hero.

Thats sadly what happens when we have so many Jedi survivors after Order 66, the question of "Why none of them have met Luke? Even incidentally? And why none of them ever thought of training Luke or joining him in his adventures?"

The rebels in the movies act like Luke is this special member of theirs because he can wield the force but in both canons the rebels had Jedi in their ranks, even if unofficially. And yet it seems only Obi-Wan and Yoda ever cross Luke's mind in training him when other Order 66 survivors should be able to fill the gap.

Its what happens when you have these "last of his kind/order" main characters and then you go on to introduce other survivors of his kind/order over the next years, like Superman being called "The last son of Krypton" when there are many canonical survivors of the planet's destruction. Luke WAS meant to be the last jedi, according to Yoda but nowadays you have to reinterpretate what he said as either the last one that he considers able to stop Vader and Sideous or that Yoda is just literally straight up lying in his last moments to give Luke urgency. You cant even give the excuse Yoda didnt know other Jedi were out there because he does meet them a few of them in both canons.
Importantly he also didn't plan on dying to his apprentice so his apprentice using treachery didn't matter, because his plan was immortal forever rule via clones.

Yeah, Palpatine never intended on dying anytime soon. He and Plagueis started to see the rule of two as an ancient law they shouldnt abide to anymore now that they are so close to achieving ultimate power and, soon after, immortality.
Iirc, Plagueis didnt even desired for he and Palpatine to kill each other, believing they could share their power.

Sadly for him, Palpy may agree the rule of two was outdated by then but he aint sharing shit.

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So looking back on it, did all the conflict in the Acolyte start due to a nigga moment or a woman moment?

I often get bemused by the retarded logic and inherent racism that Hollywood has but they don't see. Modern Humans are believed to have evolved in Africa. Our early ancestors certainly did. Sub-Saharan Africans are dark skinned. There for anything ancient or old with Humans is black people. So of course it's the black space witch that created the human lives. The white mother who carried them, isn't the creator because Black is the true identity of humans.

The white mother then wanted to control the black daughter. Not let her have freedom. Slavery. It's deep. The black mother is of course for the freedom of the daughter. Man is violent, he's Asian so race doesn't always count. Man kills black mother when all she wanted was for the daughter to be free. Man is ignorant and resorts to violence.

Man then enslaves black girl by giving her what she wanted, but because man is inherently wrong, in bad faith and deceitful. Woman ends up leaving to be free. It wasn't what she really wanted.

Evil little girl wanting to murder and do wrong is in the end right because the man and patriarchy is wrong. Sister was wrong for wanting to follow it.

Good girl, ends up embracing the freedom to be evil and violent. To have no moral code, because morality is something invented by the men.*

*may contain autism.
 
Ironically enough, by making the Jedi look evil, Leslie Headland made the Empire look good.

I mean, they officially made it lore that the Jedi were in the wrong and that they were a tyrannical force in the galaxy who were not in good terms with other Force cults. They cover shit up, they're clumsy as fuck, and they're not the benevolent heroes we were meant to believe they were. The supposed golden age where they reigned supreme for 1000 years after the last Sith war was an age of Jedi incompetence, lies, and arrogance.

So that would make Palpatine eradicating them a good thing. Especially since he didn't give two squirts of piss about all Force users in the galaxy; only those who could be a threat to him. Your random Force-using child living with his parents, not awakened to his power, or the odd Force-using adult using his tiny sliver of power to win gambling games or race well on the podracing track is generally left alone by the Empire; they don't give a shit about you unless you're aligned with the Jedi, in which case, they give you the ''silver or lead'' choice where you can either join them and serve in a place of comfort, or tell them to get fucked and they blow your brains out.

It's like with the Sequels, where they accidentally made gun nuts the good guys because the Republic disarming itself made them vulnerable to the First Order, and a fleet of warships manned by private citizens decimate Palpatine's Sith fleet in the end. Now they made the Space Fascists look good because they got rid of the incompetent, deceitful, arrogant, and oppressive Jedi Order, replacing it with a New Order where they didn't give a shit about you so long as you weren't a Jedi or a Rebel.

A Kotor 3 is like a Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 to me, it cant be done. Reason? They are a relic from a different time where different devs had different game development ideas. A by product of its time in the best way possible.

Before you say "but muh Baldur's Gate 3", you do realize that game is an anomaly, right? The gaming industry made it clear to us to not expect that to be the norm, disgustingly so.

Kotor 1/2 were made during the time great devs were getting screwed over by small budgets and tight deadlines. Nowadays its mediocre dead inside devs that hate their jobs getting screwed over with tight deadlines and inflated budgets that arent reflected in the final project. Dont get me started on how the first two games werent boycotted with DEI and ESG (tho iirc, these two are practically the same), which B.G 3 was, it just happened to have gameplay good enough most were willing to overlook some of the somewhat held back degeneracy.
That, and the same people who made Baldur's Gate 3 would probably stuff KOTOR 3 with the kind of degeneracy that makes hentai look positively dignified. Expect the main character to have sex with every sapient species, as well as droids and other creatures. Even if by some miracle of God we get a KOTOR 3 game being done by a competent studio, you can bet your ass that the parasites in the media would infect it with current year trends such as ''WOMAN GOOD, MAN BAD'' and all sorts of subversion that makes KOTOR 2 look like a straightforward hero adventure. And God knows we've had enough ''subversion'' of Star Wars to last a lifetime.
 
The New Sith Wars are a chronically underused part of the timeline (and now they'll never be used lmao)
I always did think it was weird that there's a 1000 year void in Galactic History where the Republic and multiple(?) Sith Orders, Empires and Brotherhoods were having an all out war. Lol, if I had to guess the writers avoided it because all the good ideas were around the KOTOR time period.
 
I always did think it was weird that there's a 1000 year void in Galactic History where the Republic and multiple(?) Sith Orders, Empires and Brotherhoods were having an all out war. Lol, if I had to guess the writers avoided it because all the good ideas were around the KOTOR time period.

A lot of SWEU (Legends) eras are very interesting but unexplored because going that far back would break the 'Star Wars' brand.

IIRC they wanted to go for more primitive designs for KOTOR, but Execs weighed in and demanded more Star Wars like designs so that 'it feels more like Star Wars'

This has the side effect of making such timescales void. Doesn't matter if you go 10000, 5000 or 100000 years back, everything looks the same, with the same technology.

One of the criticisms the prequels had (unfairly) even in this thread is how blatantly, aesthetically different the OT and the PT are. Nowadays we've come to see it as a same universe, but back in the day was jarring. And it was intentional.

Lucas wanted to show a shiny 'new' Republic in the PTs as opposed to the dark 'rusty' OT.

A lot of the scenes in the OT are in space or on run-down places and spaceships. The empire's aesthetics are dark and somber.

The PT looks cleaner and tidier, even Tatooine looks livelier and wealthier. Of course, Coruscant and Naboo are shiny, sunny, full of wealth, bright colours and gorgeous visuals. That was supposed to evoke a fading Golden Age.

I think the idea was OK, but the fans expected an entirely different thing and I don't know how could (or if) they have been pleased.

J.J. Abrams notably wanted no aesthetic changes, resulting in a complete stasis in a 30 years span. The fans loved this at first but, unlike the prequels, eventually didn't pay off.

Going back 10000 years would require simpler spaceships, a less ostentatious republican aesthetic, and a drift in technology. This is difficult to accomplish when the fandom has a specific idea of what the franchise looks like.
 
Someone on /tv/ pointed out how the aesthetic of the show (Mainly all the scenes of people just standing around in the middle of nowhere) is identical to late-era Filthy Frank videos and now I can't think of anything else when I see clips of it.

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Modern cinematography is plagued by this. So many big budget movies look like they were filmed in someone's yard.
 
Modern cinematography is plagued by this. So many big budget movies look like they were filmed in someone's yard.
That's what happens when you hire diversity niggers instead of someone who can plan things out properly. TV shows and movies that cost an inordinate amount of money end up looking cheap as shit.
 
Before you say "but muh Baldur's Gate 3", you do realize that game is an anomaly, right? The gaming industry made it clear to us to not expect that to be the norm, disgustingly so.
you forget bg3 isn't about the game, setting or story, it's about the gay bear sex. the same demographic disney pathetically tied to cater to since 2015 and only managed to attract reylos.


So looking back on it, did all the conflict in the Acolyte start due to a nigga moment or a woman moment?
 

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One of the criticisms the prequels had (unfairly) even in this thread is how blatantly, aesthetically different the OT and the PT are. Nowadays we've come to see it as a same universe, but back in the day was jarring. And it was intentional.
Before the prequels came out I always imagined the Republic to use aesthetics similar to Naboo - very spacious and baroque, in direct opposition to Empire's gray metal structures that favor practical use over visual appeal.
 
It's always good to see more of Ahsoka. The more they shove her in everyone's faces, the more the normies get sick of her.
Ahsoka worked best as Anakin's contrast. Anakin does crazy shit, and Ahsoka's the one who questions it. The fact that she survives the crazy shit that goes with working alongside Anakin helped build up her character. On her own, the way Filoni writes her post-TCW, she's very generic and not even that devoted to either Light or Dark, so her character is just this neutral slop that's every generic superhero character in the last 10 years. That's why people nowadays are getting sick of her.
 
Ahsoka worked best as Anakin's contrast. Anakin does crazy shit, and Ahsoka's the one who questions it. The fact that she survives the crazy shit that goes with working alongside Anakin helped build up her character
There was already a character who served that role and did it much better. His name? Obi-Wan.
 
I don't think there are any circumstances I would be buying a Star Wars encyclopedia. If there was any situation I might, if I saw that cover I definitely would not.
I have the huge 3 volume hardcover encyclopedia from the prequel era. It's an absolute tome of autism but enjoyable if you're super in to Star Wars. I'm sure the Disney era ones aren't nearly as comprehensive and well made though.
 
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