Approved 2024-07-25 - Stebbins: DMCA via Gimp Slave

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Do we intervene?

  • WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

    Votes: 819 37.3%
  • nah

    Votes: 1,377 62.7%

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I'm just so retarded that I don't see how this particular intervention would help the site or Null. I'm open to the idea that it can, but if this is limited to one user who agreed to a settlement being compelled to send a DMCA request for his own content then I'm not seeing the risk-benefit. If he uses Jarrod to send DMCAs for other things then the site is more impacted and it is even more outrageous/fightable in my retarded opinion.

I'm so retarded I don't even know if the DMCA can or should be accepted or rejected, just offering my takes.
The idea is that Asperlard is using his newly obtained slave to send legal requests and eventually even sue for him, thus circumventing his own vexatious litigant status. Which doesn’t really work, as Stabbins doesn’t understand that (according to my limited law knowledge) proxies are under the same scrutiny as he is. The DMCA is frivolous, this retard has NEVER filed a legitimate DMCA complaint and has relied solely on the fact that YouTube and other websites are pussies and would rather delete everything than face even an iota of scrutiny. Ultimately the only benefit, as of right now, would be to fuck with that faggot wereturkey.

I say bully him in the DMCA email and then wait for him to use his slavemonkey to sue, then shut it down hard.
 
Which is litigation involving the Kiwi Farms. See table #1: we have been DMCA'd by Stebbins via Jarrod Jones, and pros #2, declawing this fat idiot is a direct benefit.
a minor benefit to be sure, but minor at best. As you said there are already 3 ongoing lawsuits and its unwise to go looking for more trouble. Pick your battles and all that

Plus both of the people involved are idiots. Willingly going out of your way to get involved with the slapfight of a couple idiots doesn't make one any less of an idiot than they are

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What exactly is the Farms' stake in this? How much of a threat/nuisance is he to warrant this? He seems like some fucking nobody, picking fights with someone else and occasionally throwing a potshot your way. Just confused as to whether ignoring his requests will actually amount to anything because it seems strange to intervene in someone else's case.
I'm inclined to agree with this. This situation really doesn't concern the farms and getting involved in other peoples business generally isn't a good idea. Particular when everyone involved is more or less a shitty person. Besides that its unwise to take on too much at once and money tends to run out faster than anyone ever expects. Plus throwing around resources for lawsuits, particularly ones that don't really concern the site directly might draw the wrong kind of attention and convince enough people who hate the farms that enough is enough and to put enough resources of their own into fucking it. Don't forget how petty and vindictive some of these people can be. Watch one of these groups see you get involved in this situation, then come up with the idea of baiting you into another similar situation and the moment you do, dumping a bunch of money into a far more expensive lawyer with the goal of bleeding you dry of legal funds and fucking you over afterwards

Go looking for trouble and you'll find it. What you can do to fuck with this retard others can do to you, and likely have far deeper pockets. Don't forget that
 
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How does Harden even have time for his own practice with all the pants-on-head retarded lolsuits/inquiries/referral requests Null sends his way?

Null's legal troubles must be Harden's version of the Farms. Instead of laughing at internet lolcows and their insane antics, Hardin is laughing at Null's lolsuits and their insane litigants.

In my mind the money we donated was for a bigger threat, like Elliot No-Dong. Generating that large amount of money that fast made trannies who had previously been effective at botheting us mostly stop their attempts, according to what Jewsh said on Mati. So I figured the war chest was for a big picture lawsuit not just for pests.

Against my better judgment... I vote fight.

TOTAL RETARD WAR!!!
 
Just looking at the title of this thread I was thinking, "I know I have seen one of those names in the last few days". I don't follow this dude at all. But! I was browsing PreserveTube recently and looked at their Transparency section.

Well, wouldn't ya know it lol. I can't say I'm surprised based on what I've read so far. In any case, I wanted to post this because I quickly skimmed the thread and hadn't seen it brought up, and maybe it will help people form their opinion.
I'll attach the .txt directly here also.

EDIT: copy/paste in the spoiler below of the .txt, so you don't have to download it from the attachment.
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 02:31:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: Acerthorn <acerthorn@yahoo.com>
Subject: DMCA Takedown Notice

Dear Preserve Tube,

The following video infringes on my copyright: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=5gXZEesiwvw

This is the video that it infringes on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXZEesiwvw

I have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright or intellectual property owner, its agent, or the law.

I certify, under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the copyright or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual property owner’s behalf.

Please remove this infringing post ASAP.

Sincerely,
David Stebbins
123 W. Ridge Ave.,
APT D
Harrison, AR 72601
acerthorn@yahoo.com
 

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The fact you would come up with that justification to use the legal funds to vindictively go after someone who you happen to be in an unrelated lawsuit with, gives me pause.

People especially smart people are very good at coming up with reasons to do whatever they wanted post hoc. A solution to help guard against mission creep is a board of directors. Probably why the nonprofit you were looking at required a board.
 
I don't understand why support can't take the form of advice, as is often done for the sake of this website by average users. If Jarrod wants support (but not legal advice; he needs a lawyer) then I suggest making a thread for that, or if there's a concern his adversary will just come here and read that thread, a PM chain with trusted people.
 
I support intervention because I think it's the right thing to do. However I also agree to respect the outcome of the vote.
 
I'm up for declawing retarded faggots who do nothing but wage legal warfare because they're too fucking stupid to do anything else.

But I agree to do this cautiously, because as explained above...
Entering litigation voluntarily is generally considered "fucking retarded" in legal circles.

But if we're gonna do it, hoist the red flag, no fucking quarter given.
 
How about another fundraiser to help Stebbins? It can't be THAT expensive to give him some assistance, and I'd put a few more dollars into the effort. That way the fund stays true to its purpose, and Stebbins can get free, too.

Also, should people who came to the site after the original fundraiser even have a say in the vote?
 
I'm pro. You gotta fuck anyone who fucks you.
 
How about another fundraiser to help Stebbins? It can't be THAT expensive to give him some assistance, and I'd put a few more dollars into the effort. That way the fund stays true to its purpose, and Stebbins can get free, too.

Also, should people who came to the site after the original fundraiser even have a say in the vote?
This is a good idea. Flex those web admin muscles by giving donators yet another badge, bar, etc.
 
The way you're bringing up the 13th amendment makes me fear that this would be similar to some clever clogs lawyer trying to bring up the highest laws in the land to explain why he doesn't have to pay his parking ticket, and the judge dismissing him like a buffoon EVEN IF HE IS TECHNICALLY CORRECT.
I don't think it's like that. I only know contract law but it's a super fundamental thing internationally that a court can never order or enforce an agreement involving your human meat bag being forced to do anything ever. Like it's universally abhorrent, nevermind the 13th amendment, and always the first thing on the checklist. How does that apply to settlement agreements? No fucking idea, but I doubt it's a weird pitch at least.

Anyway I vote yes, but I think it's a terrible idea.
 
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