Approved 2024-07-25 - Stebbins: DMCA via Gimp Slave

[Flaming Dumpster]

am i reading this wrong? the settlement states that jones is a limited agent for the sole pupose of submitting a dmca notice for the video at issue. that's it; just the one video that he (jones) voluntarily posted himself. i see no indication that jones is in any way legally obligated, or even permitted, to submit anything else on stebbins' behalf unless the same video is re-posted elsewhere.

Yeah I was on the fence about this but after reading your post and re-reading the settlement a few times I don't see how this is an issue worth pursuing.

It's specifically "a takedown" and as you pointed out, "the video at issue" which greatly limits the scope. Also I think declaring it to be literally slavery is hyperbole which is probably not a good idea to throw out there given this dude is a vexatious litigant.

I think out of all the cases where the forum has an interest, the only person threatened with indentured servitude is Null's friend in Australia given the ridiculous judgement hanging over his head. Spending money and effort on freeing that dude from that default judgement will do more good for the world than saving a retard from having to send an e-mail. (which he has already sent anyway)

 

[Weeb Slinger]

While this feels analogous to the hypothetical 'how many five year olds could you fight at the same time?' (how many retards do you think you could simultaneously beat down in court?) it also seems like something that might escalate if it isn't nipped in the bud.

Is there any estimate regarding how much it might cost and how long it might take?

Something worth bearing in mind is that the present stability of this website is, in part, a consequence of certain bad actors being aware of a giant pool of money that can be used to summon lawyers and enact litigation. As that resource dwindles this threat starts to go away and maybe the wolves who are circling the camp will get bolder.

 

[TheRealDirlewanger]

Fucking fight that faggot, cost him like he's costed God only knows how many others.

 

[Fred Jones -Traplord]

Ignore the degenerate, he’ll probably die of turkey aids in a few years anyway.

he has so many alogs nothing will be undocumented even if he got a few things taken down from this site. Save the money for a more “reputable” tard

 

[NSA Intern]

KF is just going to tell you to do it because it's content. Do it if he's an actual threat to the forum or would cost so much time/money/energy through his gimp slave as to warrant it.

 

[Null]

In the sense of it affecting the Farms, this is a massive stretch; one DCMA complaint doesn´t establish a pattern. You are just pushing for a retarded slap fight because... MURICA! Knock it off.

?? I didn't push this idiot to email me.

Stebbins basically asks the court for slavery as a relief.

 

[Desktop User2]

?? I didn't push this idiot to email me.

Stebbins basically asks the court for slavery as a relief.

I queued the wrong quote, it was supposed to be this one

Declawing Stebbins is a direct benefit to us because the misery golem recently decided he's just going to sue us forever.

The retard slap fight meaning inserting yourself on their litigation on a hunch that the slave will be a constant tool to fuck with you. It seems kinda personal and if you start to deplete your war fund for personal fights, it may affect your capability to raise more whenever you need it - the people seems to agree that this is not a worthy fight according to the poll as well.

 

[Cornfed]

The pros and cons need to be well thought out. The major risk is that this turns into a quagmire a la Greer, costing resources that will be needed to fight battles against the real troon menace.
Ultimately, it is the right thing to do. Is there a way to raise another fund for this case alone? If the way forward is clear and a concrete cost can be put on it I think enough of us would donate.

 

[Unique User Name]

35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.

For I was retarded and sued by a retard into bondage and you filed a lawsuit to help relieve me of my bondage.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

Counterpoint: Sargon won his case for posting a video titled “SJW levels of awareness” - the video title was his sole source of commentary and he prevailed on fair use.

The title was not the sole source of his commentary. Akilah's video was over 10 minutes and he edited that down to under 2. Sargon prevailed because of the title + editing + his video wasn't a replacement for Akilah's. No one wanting to watch Akilah and her content would go to Sargon's channel and find that video an acceptable substitute for hers.

The post in question on the farms appears to have copied the entirety of a livestream in the typical archive everything approach. This is the extent of the commentary, so you'd have to argue that the thread itself is doing the heavy lifting in regards to fair use. Did the poster really need to copy the entirely of the livestream, almost 70 minutes worth of material to comment on the cuts on his face?

Here is the video of the Elden Ring "debate" split into parts. I like how 8 minutes into it starts to devolve. The sores on his face is apparently he "cut himself while shaving."

This livestream is available on Acerthorn's channel as members only content that people have to pay to watch. The market for that video is non existant, Acerthorn reported he makes less than $50 per month from YouTube, but the copy on the farms acts as a replacement.

Even if you had a bunch of money to burn and wanted to test the limits of fair use, I don't know if you pick a fight over this.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Ignore the degenerate, he’ll probably die of turkey aids in a few years anyway.

he has so many alogs nothing will be undocumented even if he got a few things taken down from this site. Save the money for a more “reputable” tard

To be fair, Stebbins is already suing the Farms, so its not like the lawfare money isn't going to be used to fight the wereturkey anyway.

Under normal circumstances it probably would not be advisable to open a second front in the fight, but Acerthorne is not normal. Even if he loses his West Virginia fight, he'll come up with a spurious reason to sue the forum somewhere else. I feel a more proactive attack on his shenanigans would is warranted in this situation.

 

[Ted Kaczynski]

this might be retarded to do. Lmfao

 

[Sir Baz the Intolerant]

As tempting as it may be we need to be very careful with what battles we choose to fight. Just because we now have resources available to us does not mean we can take them for granted and start flinging them at whatever shit takes our fancy, because we can never be too sure when the next retard will file a spurious lawsuit against the Farms.

And while I do feel for this Jones buck and think the judgement is retarded. This is a mess he has ultimately gotten himself into via his own retarded decisions during this litigation, and should we decide to help him, can we really relay on him not to just fuck everything up again regardless?

There's too many variables and what-ifs at play here, and therefore it should be left well alone. Let Jarrod Jones serve as a cautionary tale that you have to take shit like this seriously unless you want to become a turky-man's sex slave for two years.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

Maybe the answer is just to give the retard gimp slave $1800 to pay his debt,

Is it impossible to make a crowd funder to raise the 1800 usd needed?

The settlement states that if the defendant's net worth exceeds $6,000, he is then on the hook to pay $10,000. This is why you can't and shouldn't give him money. The defendant can either live like Acerthorn, or get a job and give his wage slave money to Acerthorn.

 

[The First Fag]

Fuck them, Daddy Jersh. Fuck them hard. This dickhead will continue fucking over everyone unless action is taken and the courts won't do so by themselves

 

[sallowhal]

is there a way we can only poll people who actually donated to the legal fund?

 

[Grimoire Canthari]

Does this have a chance of genuinely impacting the site like for Dong Gone Jones? Then no.

 

[Jew-ish]

Nobody will like this idea, but I would try to buy out the retard slave for $1800 of your own money, under the terms that he would drop his litigation.

Take the path of least resistance for the smaller battles so you can focus on the big ones.

 

[brokenWindows]

Sorry boss, I don't think you're going to get any satisfaction out of this when one of the main characters is a Californian named, "Shashi H. Kewalramani".

 

[Finger Pistols]

@Null Before I cast my vote, I want to know something. Have you talked to your lawyers about this and if so what did they say? As in, what are the estimates of money burnt on the pottential lawsuit and how much of a slam dunk case it is? Because with our ongoing litigations, mainly Greer, I feel like this would be much more of a headache than it's worth. Even more so if the WereTurkey has the same legal strategy as Greer of draging his feet for as long as possible to just make you loose money.