Approved 2024-07-25 - Stebbins: DMCA via Gimp Slave

[Null]

Have you talked to your lawyers about this and if so what did they say?

It's an option. It's not particularly stupid and would be relatively inexpensive. The big hurdles are finding a California attorney willing to work for cheap, and not getting stuck in a forever case like Greer's.

 

[Lake Cresva Diver]

take acerthorns hotdog money. total retard war

 

[mindlessobserver]

Acerthorne getting any money as a result of his shenanigans will just encourage him to keep on carrying on. Its pretty much a given if the forum is not proactive at shutting him down he will just keep coming back. The next step if we don't intervene is Stebbins is going to convince his Gimp he has to file a copyright lawsuit against the Forum. This time in California.

At that point we will have to get involved anyway, and at a less advantageous position.

 

[Raven of the Burning God]

we have been DMCA'd by Stebbins via Jarrod Jones

When? Did they resend it to the designated DMCA agent or do you only know about their desire to DMCA you via the invalid service?

If you still haven't been validly DMCA'd, leave it alone (and posting this thread is basically correcting your enemy while he is making an error).
If they ever send you a valid DMCA takedown request, see about getting ZellZander to file a DMCA counterclaim (which I suspect is the original pro se retardation that got him indentured) and maybe you get to come back to ask if Total Retard War means we can step in a delightful pile of nonsense where ZZ is both the plaintiff-agent and the defendant.

 

[Reverend]

This forum is all about weaponizing retarded autism. ergo, this is a vote for freedom, liberty, and spergatory anti-litigious behavior. Nuke him from orbit and pass the tendies.

 

[Null]

If you still haven't been validly DMCA'd, leave it alone (and posting this thread is basically correcting your enemy while he is making an error).

i don't know if you've realized, but technically right means nothing. any time i hear someone trying to throw me some legal technicality my eyes roll. been there, done that, nobody gives a fuck.

 

[Avenue]

Why not intervene as a pro se litigant yourself, yes you, sweep up that lawsuit for free jannie. Its the funniest, cheapest and most retarded solution. Xitter appeals writing segment is getting old, how about a court document filing segment, have chat donate to put their favorite disguised Internet funnywords to be included into the fillings.
So why not nostalgically play in the mud with literal pigs and flex your legal knowledge gained from running this forum, else you are condemning another human being to that position, albeit monetarily compensated mud slinging in the case of a real lawyer.

 

[James done did it]

Jarrod is a fuckwit, I have no idea how you settle that for $1,800. Acerthorn's admitted revenue from his channel is less than $50/mo. He obviously infringed the copyright but the copyright is worth almost nothing. I guess it's the same kind of retardation where you email a known vexatious litigant you're beefing with using a gmail account attached to your real name.

He deserves slavery but Acerthorn cannot be allowed a W.

 

[Barbarella]

I gave money for you to fight the retards who go after you on the internet, and keep this site up. If this is in service of those goals, go for it.

 

[Miquella]

I think the money should be used only for the purpose that it was given for

This is what it was given for

 

[Truly Rural]

When?

It's the first thing in the OP dude.

 

[Angry Shoes]

I voted no but after reading the highlights of the Acerthron thread I have to chime in to say fuck no.

Yes it sucks that people can just no-life the court system and file bullshit to try to hurt people who talk shit about them on the Internet. However this is entirely the fault of Jones. He knew exactly who Acerthron was, what his reputation was, how he operated, and what the consequences of getting entangled with this sperg were. He tried to troll one of the most litigious people on the Internet, then posted "lol he's trying to sue me". Everyone in the thread kept telling him to shut the fuck up and go away until everything was settled but he couldn't stop posting. And now, because he is retarded, he is in his current situation. I don't envy him and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But he is in a prison of his own creation and I don't think the defense fund should pay for anything related to his case.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

As much as I despise Acerthorn and fat fucking faggots like him and what he does, this has to be a case of "choosing your battles". You just have too much on your plate right now, and shouldn't accept more burden unless it's outweighed by the alternative that is ignoring it. Don't get me wrong, going after him would be preferable and moral, but it just isn't realistic right now, IMO.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

If you still haven't been validly DMCA'd, leave it alone (and posting this thread is basically correcting your enemy while he is making an error).

Go read the Greer suit to see what ignoring improper retarded pro se procedure gets you.

 

[Anstiv]

Will the group of whiners who happened to donate, shut the fuck up about it? Probably not yet. Some of them don’t seem to understand that it’s in a trust to help with Kiwi Farms legal stuff. Period.

Donators don’t get a say beyond what size check they write, or don’t. It’s up to the individual to donate to a cause or not. Every time the legal donations come up, some faggots whine, “muh money.” It stopped being “yours” the moment you donated. It belongs to the cause & you are no longer in charge of it.

Donators fund, & it’s up to the individual to know what they’re funding. That’s it. Fuck off with this crappy reasoning that you have power beyond the donation you gave. That’s really fucking lame , if you think about it for one damn second, maybe some of those faggots will stop trying to hold power over others heads because they wrote a check.

Bro he literally asked for input. Are you retarded?

 

[Raven of the Burning God]

i don't know if you've realized, but technically right means nothing. any time i hear someone trying to throw me some legal technicality my eyes roll. been there, done that, nobody gives a fuck.

Then comply with the not-DMCA takedown request and notify the affected user that he may file a not-DMCA counterclaim.

It doesn't appear that the indentured servitude terms would require ZZ/JJ to do anything when he receives his own counterclaim, so if he does send you a counterclaim, you restore the content as required by the not-DMCA, forward the counterclaim to the original claimant, and then it's a matter between ZZ/JJ claimant and ZZ/JJ counterclaimant.

 

[TETRABAX]

Having a war chest of $150k works well as a preventative measure so the only downside I could see with using those funds is if the expense takes away too much from that deterrent effect. If it's relatively cheap for the legal representation then I don't see a problem. On the flip side, actually using those funds in a proactive capacity also boosts the legal threat level of trying to bully a gossip forum.

Either way, I don't feel like there is a right answer here without knowing how it will play out

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

I’m just a dumb farmer, but I say look at the biggest threat right now and focus on that. Some battles are not worth fighting and with 3 lawsuits to deal with currently, it’s best to go after the giant rather than the little soldiers.

 

[Null]

It doesn't appear that the indentured servitude terms would require ZZ/JJ to do anything when he receives his own counterclaim, so if he does send you a counterclaim, you restore the content as required by the not-DMCA, forward the counterclaim to the original claimant, and then it's a matter between ZZ/JJ claimant and ZZ/JJ counterclaimant.

The copyright is confirmed to be owned by the misery golem so he would just file spurious litigation. Literally, the slavery part comes from Jarrod being forced to do something the goblin can do himself, but just chooses not to do because it's more fun to torment random people online.

This is literally the only joy he gets in life.

 

[Anstiv]

i don't know if you've realized, but technically right means nothing. any time i hear someone trying to throw me some legal technicality my eyes roll. been there, done that, nobody gives a fuck.

Do people not remember that none of the DMCA shit from Greer was valid? Same with Melinda...