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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
"Tommy Robinsons" real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. He created the Tommy Robinson name to sound more working class as his the hyphenated name reveals his well off background, also rumours of some connection to MI6 but nothing concerete. I always saw him as a Richard Spencer like character. Also hes a massive massive zionist, had his english nationalist group march with Israeli flags a few times. You'll notice he's referred to as far right but never as a neo-nazi.
 
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What worries me is the misuse of the Terrorism Act (if he was arrested under a section of said act). If this was about his documentary and a resulting contempt of court, then he could be arrested under a warrant, which would then be quick to process (as he'd likely be guilty as sin).
The powers under the counterterrorism legislation should not be misused and the police force in question should be taken to court for doing so.
 
Why is that a bad thing?
The monarchy hasn't been native since the Roman era, your current family is a German one, before that it was a dutch one and before that it was the scottish and before that it was mostly french.
Never understood why the King's great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather being a German who inherited the throne through his British grandmother is thrown around like it's some kind of own tbh. Is it the fossilised form of some Puritan anti-Hanoverian sentiments brought over by English settlers and embedded into American political mythology?
 
The monarchy hasn't been native since the Roman era, your current family is a German one, before that it was a dutch one and before that it was the scottish and before that it was mostly french.
Most Monarchs were not "native" in the parochial sense. This is nothing new, and is applying a concept of Statehood that didn't exist until the birth of nationalism which is a relatively new phenomenon.
 
Tommy Robinson is made up to be the devil by the left and a hero by the right. He's neither, he's just 'The White Van Man' (hopefully people will understand that reference from The Sun).

He's just an aggregate of white, working-class, middle-aged men. You go to a building site up north and 99% of the workers will have those views.
I don't know a ton about Tommy Robinson, but being a regular guy instead of a brilliant, well-resourced, 4D-chess-player doesn't mean he can't be a hero.

The regular guy willing to incur the wrath of every Regime institution to give a voice to the other 99% who can't risk their livelihoods and families is also heroic.

Count Dankula is pretty far from what I imagine when I think "hero", but letting himself be arrested and prosecuted with a smile to show the world how insane Clown World has become, was pretty heroic:

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What worries me is the misuse of the Terrorism Act (if he was arrested under a section of said act). If this was about his documentary and a resulting contempt of court, then he could be arrested under a warrant, which would then be quick to process (as he'd likely be guilty as sin).
The powers under the counterterrorism legislation should not be misused and the police force in question should be taken to court for doing so.
Is it confirmed that he actually was arrested under the Terrorism Act? Or are we going on Robinson's own word?

I think I remember him at the very least being very misleading when he has been arrested in the past.
 
It's a very good thread, a fine thread. US politics has the best posters, YUGE post counts. Unlike the other threads with low post counts. Many such cases. Sad.

I do post in the US politics thread because your leader is a fucking drooling corpse and I like laughing at how your country is cheering him and some kackling hypocrit street-shitting nigger on like they're Nixon, Bush or even Clinton levels of competent.

And, I never tell the yanks how their country works. I ask questions, observe, call people retards, but I will never (hopefully) tell you how your country runs.

Monarchy is tradition, it something to tie the people to the country and something to be proud of, a history and documentation of what was. Unfortunately for us, our Monarchy died with Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

America was banging for a bit, pure chill n grill. Then it went el loco.
Cuck sweeping for Monarchy lmao
 
This shit doesn't surprise me at all. The UK seems to kowtow to Muslims regarding the law by appealing to community cohesion / public order or some other B.S. It just seems that Labour under Blair let in a bunch of Muslims to seem progressive but had no real plan to get them to behave like a proper Englishman so they gave up and is forcing everyone to pretend that we all get all.
 
I know very little about Tommy Robinson and he could be an opportunist grifter for all I know, but it sure is starting to look like he's a persecuted unfavorable.
He's being treated like a nigger invader in his own country (actually much worse)

He was an opportunistic grifter for a while but I saw a bit of a change in him. Once he started to be legally harassed he seemed to have became more seriously involved in the cause. It was around the time Antifa posted his home address online, migrant thugs showed up with weapons, and they arrested Tommy for disturbing the attackers. So they get to come to his house with weapons and wait for him but if makes a drink about it to the rozzers he gets arrested. Can't trample on the freedom of the 3rd works rapists. They're just tying to kill Tommy at his house mate.
 
"Tommy Robinsons" real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. He created the Tommy Robinson name to sound more working class as his the hyphenated name reveals his well off background, also rumours of some connection to MI6 but nothing concerete. I always saw him as a Richard Spencer like character. Also hes a massive massive zionist, had his english nationalist group march with Israeli flags a few times. You'll notice he's never referred to as far right but never as a neo-nazi.

OHHHHHHH TOMMY TOMMY

TOMMY TOMMY TOMMY TOMMY ROBINSON

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Can someone tl;dr what made the film ban-worthy in the first place?
I watched the whole documentary last night, here’s my TL;DR

In 2020 there was an incident at a school where a white British youth spilled a bottle of water on an immigrant from Syria. The Syrian youth was a piece of shit, had bullied kids, especially girls, but the news spread that the white British youth had “water boarded” the poor Syrian lad. The British media sprang into action and made the white youth the aggressor and basically said he was a thug. Everywhere from the BBC to Piers Morgan to international news reported it as such. Meanwhile, every teacher at the school and anyone who knew about the incident were paid off/forced to sign Non Disclosure Agreements.

That’s where Tommy steps in.

He went around the town and interviewed people who knew the British boy and about the Syrian boy and got the real information on what actually happened. He clandestinely filmed his interview subjects because they wouldn’t speak about the incident because they knew they would face trouble for their jobs, from the media, or possibly from Islamic groups.

When it became known that Tommy was getting the goods on this story and was preparing a documentary the police, media, Islamist lawyers, and Antifa started to come after his family.

There was a trial. Tommy got nearly 10 people to testify on behalf of the British boy’s story (he and his family have had their lives tarnished, he’s had to leave school, they had to move to a different area, but they are still at risk). In spite of the testimony of these people (under threat of perjury) the judge declared that the Syrian boy’s claim was correct (even though he was known to have lied on various occasions), and he declared that Tommy’s documentary must not be shown to the public or he would face prison. For two years he avoided showing the documentary to the public because of threats to his family. Finally, after he and his wife divorced (largely because of the threats she and their kids have faced) he said fuck it and here we are.

Allah Akbar:jaceknife:
 
And today Tommy Robinson has been arrested* under the Terrorism Act [ X ], reportedly for screening his own banned documentary at yesterday's event.
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I know very little about Tommy Robinson and he could be an opportunist grifter for all I know, but it sure is starting to look like he's a persecuted unfavorable. Which is to say: regardless the truth of the matter, the silly fuckers are building the man his own legend.

ETA: There is a protest on Downing Street, currently being livestreamed here.

* ETA 2: The Met deny it [ X ]. Quite the puzzler.
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ETA 3: This posted yesterday suggests otherwise [ X ]. The social media monkeys must not be in the loop.
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what was the doc about?
 
I don't know a ton about Tommy Robinson, but being a regular guy instead of a brilliant, well-resourced, 4D-chess-player doesn't mean he can't be a hero.

The regular guy willing to incur the wrath of every Regime institution to give a voice to the other 99% who can't risk their livelihoods and families is also heroic.

Count Dankula is pretty far from what I imagine when I think "hero", but letting himself be arrested and prosecuted with a smile to show the world how insane Clown World has become, was pretty heroic:

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He doesn't give a voice to those people though. He grifts off of them and then uses the money to deflect their anger away from things that the elites don't want questioned, channelling into an edgy version of much more kosher beliefs.

The inherent nativism and nationalism of the White working class runs counter to the multicultural agenda. Therefore it is narrowed, then sanitised and redirected when Robinson picks it up. E.g:

The authentic White working class attitude on immigration is based on a lot of different factors (economic, societal, "they're just not us" etc). Robinson narrows this to focus only on areas that the elites are comfortable with opposing ("they groom and rape kids", "they commit terrorist attacks", "they treat women badly"). This allows it to be turned into a general opposition to Islam and "Islamism"/"political Islam", which allows him to extol the virtues of Israel ("only democracy in the middle east!") to the poor White boys who are expected to die for it.

Nativism -> opposition to specific practices of immigrants -> anti-Islamism -> neo-conservatism.

Point this out and he will call you a racist just like anyone else who takes issue with White people wanting their countries to survive as they are. This entire grift stops the formation of a genuine political movement that would give an intelligent voice to the concerns of the common people, and the Jeremy Kyle-esque optics of the man conditions others to view their own people with disgust.

I see him as a mixture of David Duke and Lindsey Graham. I despise him, not because he harms my people (everyone else does that already), but because he does so while pretending to help them. Even Judas felt remorseful; Yaxley-Lennon has convinced his victims that he is their messiah.
 
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