Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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I was expecting this "get fucked nigger" response by the court anyways but as others said I hope it lays the groundwork for another go if Greer misses despite saying he's gonna do it.

If Greer actually submits within the next 5 days I will be damned.

ETA: Null should release a book and Audible, voiced by himself. Call it The World's Nigger.
 
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mindlessobserver said:
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"When he discovered his copyrighted book and song online, Plaintiff Russell Greer sent a “takedown notice” to Defendants Joshua Moon and his website Kiwi Farms, requesting the material be removed from the Kiwi Farms site [...]Within days, however, Mr. Greer discovered his new song had been uploaded to Kiwi Farms. A Kiwi Farms user under the name “Russtard” encouraged its dissemination on the site “so no one else accidentally gives Russell [Greer] money.”


I suppose, unlike the district court, 10th Circuit did acknowledge that the book, unlike the song, was on Google Drive, but claims that the song was here.
 
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Sneedfully and Peacefully said:
ETA: Null should release a book and Audible, voiced by himself. Call it The World's Nigger.
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Why I Got Sued By Russel Greer: And Why I Became Known As The Transphobe Final Boss, Byuu's Killer And The Internet's Nigger.

I really only have one joke, and fuck it, I'll whip that dead horse until it is a fine blood filled mist.
 
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Sneedfully and Peacefully said:
I was expecting this "get fucked nigger" response by the court anyways but as others said I hope it lays the groundwork for another go if Greer misses despite saying he's gonna do it.

If Greer actually submits within the next 5 days I will be damned.

ETA: Null should release a book and Audible, voiced by himself. Call it The World's Nigger.
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And then sue everyone who reads it.
 
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I still say filing his response will be the final nail in the coffin for Russ.

His objections to adjoining Google or motion to strike will be putting in writing, even more clearly than he already has, "This case is about all the claims of stalking and harassment and libel that were already dismissed, not contributory copyright infringement, so I'm gonna keep bringing up irrelevant dismissed shit forever and ever while never arguing copyright because that's not what the case is really about!"
 
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If I reread it from a “my court was right, the appeals court slapped us around because they’re a bag of dicks, and I’m not happy about it but I don’t want it to happen again” it kind of all fits.

I feel some suppressed “I’m doing what you said MOTHER” energy that I’ve not experienced since recalcitrant kids were maliciously complying with orders to clean up the room.

We’ll see.
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
I suppose, unlike the district court, 10th Circuit did acknowledge that the book, unlike the song, was on Google Drive, but claims that the song was here.
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Yeah, but the Link he posted in the complaint just goes to his OP. The Song isn't located in the OP. There is a hyperlink to a dead post from 2022...Maybe its been changed in the years since though. The last edit was at the start of 2023.

More importantly, they do say this. To “explain his side of things and to hopefully clear up the slander surrounding him,” Mr. Greer wrote a book. RI.15. He self-published and copyrighted the book, Why I Sued Taylor Swift and How I Became Falsely Known as Frivolous, Litigious and Crazy, around November 2017. By January 2018, Mr. Greer discovered “his book had been illegally put onto Kiwi Farms.” RI.18. Under the title “Rusty’s Tale,” Kiwi Farms users provided a Google Drive link to a full copy of Mr. Greer’s book. RI.18."

So even if we are taking Greers sperging liberally as to mean he's alleging the material was posted to the forum, the 10th circuit clearly said the forum posted a google drive link. Russel certainly "asked for the material to be removed" in his DMCA, but that is not what he factually alleged. He factually alleged in his complaint that Users were disseminating his material located on a google drive.

Paragraph 42 of Greers complaint alleges this.

42. Below the title, “Rusty’s Tale”, is a Google Drive link to Greer’s book. (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2VdH79IRT1RN1pvdnJ1cTk2cUU). Somebody created a copy of Greer’s book and put it in a Google Drive file that is accessible on Kiwi Farms.

He then posts some screenshots as exhibits to users allegedly posting his material. Again, with no links or citation.

Rereading the 10th circuit opinion, they do seem to make a distinction between the book and the song, with the book being on the drive and the song being shared by users. Greer also makes this allegation in the complaint but makes no reference links in his DMCA and simply links the OP, which does not contain the song. The core thrust of his complaint is that third-party users on the forum were doing it. Not the forum or Null.

I suppose if we were reading the allegations "liberally" the factual background the judge is speaking about could be accurate. I just don't think it's a good idea to let it go by without a squeak since this is the core of the defense argument that is just getting hand waved away.
 
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McMitch said:
When If this case ever ends, I would be fascinated to read Hardin’s thoughts on it, even if all they amounted to was “this shit was a retarded waste of time.”
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It will never end. Long after Greer and Moon are deceased and their physical remains have been converted into nutrient bars, AIs, who have been trained to emulate the mannerisms of the two men, will continue to bat this case back and forth across the Fongnet.
 
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McMitch said:
When If this case ever ends, I would be fascinated to read Hardin’s thoughts on it, even if all they amounted to was “this shit was a retarded waste of time.”
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Weeb Slinger said:
It will never end. Long after Greer and Moon are deceased and their physical remains have been converted into nutrient bars, AIs, who have been trained to emulate the mannerisms of the two men, will continue to bat this case back and forth across the Fongnet.
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This is the suit that doesn't end
Yes it goes on and on, my friend
Russ Greer started suing Null not knowing who he was
And he'll continue suing Null forever just because
repeat ad infinitum

I have this mental image of poor Hardin, locked up in a psych ward singing this to himself for the rest of his natural life.
 
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