Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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I’m thinking we could save a lot of pooner lives by Etsying their ability to STP.

Why don’t we see more of these with a cute crocheted penis cover? Twelve bucks total cost and we could save millions in dialysis.

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  • Came out at 10 and was on puberty blockers by 12 and given Testosterone at 14
  • Has been taking anti-psychotics since she was 11
  • Either is/was on Prozac and Lexapro at some point
There’s something profoundly western in pumping your kid with every drug you have for any and all puberty concerns. Sometimes I wish we’d bring smoking back like in the 90s for an all-round solution to your mental nonsense instead of this. Atleast you’d live in dignity
 
Sometimes I wonder why I follow this thread.

The insane things these people do to themselves in the delusion they they were somehow born the wrong gender or just outright in chase of the coom (which I don't understand at ALL since you will never be able to orgasm the way you could once you mutilate your genitals like this.) is nothing but nauseating and depressing.

Why do we do it to ourselves? We already know better so it's not self-education. So we can educate confused, pornsick people? Personally I don't know any but it would surely do the job.

The same reason we laugh at lolcows? Maybe, but it's a damn horrific schadenfreude to feel.

I just dunno, kiwifams. Why do you follow this thread?
 
I’m thinking we could save a lot of pooner lives by Etsying their ability to STP.
Speaking of STPs...
If you are going camping or some shit the Pstyle is easier to clean and use. Even if you piss hard. TIFs especially should take note instead of getting surgery. :smug:
 
Sometimes I wonder why I follow this thread.

The insane things these people do to themselves in the delusion they they were somehow born the wrong gender or just outright in chase of the coom (which I don't understand at ALL since you will never be able to orgasm the way you could once you mutilate your genitals like this.) is nothing but nauseating and depressing.

Why do we do it to ourselves? We already know better so it's not self-education. So we can educate confused, pornsick people? Personally I don't know any but it would surely do the job.

The same reason we laugh at lolcows? Maybe, but it's a damn horrific schadenfreude to feel.

I just dunno, kiwifams. Why do you follow this thread?
A lot of it on my part is morbid curiosity, looking at just what sorts of disasters these surgeries really are, like some sort of gruesome medical museum.

Also, this serves as a nice archive to reference when the actual details and aftermaths of SRS are rarely discussed online or elsewhere because they are heavily-censored by social media and tech companies like Google who have swallowed the whole bottle of pink pills. So, this place is one of the few areas you can go to in order to find a realistic and unflinching look at how poor SRS actually is and how people are spending all of this money just to maim themselves and they still will never "pass".

Mental health professionals and surgeons should be pointing this stuff out to potential patients who are thinking of medically-transitioning, but they don't, so here we are.
 
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Speaking of STPs...
If you are going camping or some shit the Pstyle is easier to clean and use. Even if you piss hard. TIFs especially should take note instead of getting surgery. :smug:
I mean, this would at least turn a few FTMs from life-destroying pain and sterilization to a mildly embarrassing fad that just shows up when social media throws up some old photo memories.
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Sometimes I wonder why I follow this thread.

The insane things these people do to themselves in the delusion they they were somehow born the wrong gender or just outright in chase of the coom (which I don't understand at ALL since you will never be able to orgasm the way you could once you mutilate your genitals like this.) is nothing but nauseating and depressing.

Why do we do it to ourselves? We already know better so it's not self-education. So we can educate confused, pornsick people? Personally I don't know any but it would surely do the job.

The same reason we laugh at lolcows? Maybe, but it's a damn horrific schadenfreude to feel.

I just dunno, kiwifams. Why do you follow this thread?
Because its funny. Some of theese people are straight up evil groomers, manipulating weak grownups and children into the slanesh cult. I cant help but feel schadenfreude when their chickens come home to roost and their rot pockets mulch out of their crotch. Couldnt happen to a better gooner.
 
Extremely TMI and you shouldn't have shared but I know what you mean.
Getting an ultrasound can be arousing for some reason. Idk if the womb is an erogenous zone and I don't want to look it up.
More sober response: if your uterus is capable of sending pain signals loud and clear, it would seem reasonable you could also derive pleasurable sensations from it if you know where to press.
Some chinks refer to cocks as “little brothers”. Us southern hick chinks have adopted this northern drivel but I am very happy calling penises the local term, kukubirds.
The term I know is "小鸡" - little cock.
 
Says that he went with the 'inexperienced' surgeon because the surgeon was "trans/NB", and laments that he should have gone with the 'old cis man':
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"It seems you started out with a condition called tubular or tuberous beast shape, and the surgeon did not know how to account for that. "

Exactly! Thank you! They were a relatively inexperienced surgeon, and for the past year I've felt like I made a mistake by choosing them. I chose them because they are also trans (NB) but I probably should have bailed and gone with the old cis man who had been giving trans women breast implants for over a decade.

If I can manage to afford a revision I'll make sure to choose someone with experience with tubular breasts. I was having trouble remembering that word, but that is exactly what I had - small tubular breasts.

Another commenter is downright envious, sis!
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They don’t look off to me at all, if anything I’m envious sis! May I ask what the hrt regime was before the BA?

Why do we do it to ourselves? We already know better so it's not self-education. So we can educate confused, pornsick people? Personally I don't know any but it would surely do the job.
It's morbidly entertaining first and foremost, but if even one parent was able to use this thread to educate themselves and their child as to why all this shit is as terrible idea, it was all worth it
 
Sometimes I wonder why I follow this thread.

The insane things these people do to themselves in the delusion they they were somehow born the wrong gender or just outright in chase of the coom (which I don't understand at ALL since you will never be able to orgasm the way you could once you mutilate your genitals like this.) is nothing but nauseating and depressing.

Why do we do it to ourselves? We already know better so it's not self-education. So we can educate confused, pornsick people? Personally I don't know any but it would surely do the job.

The same reason we laugh at lolcows? Maybe, but it's a damn horrific schadenfreude to feel.

I just dunno, kiwifams. Why do you follow this thread?
The cult is still very alive and has too much of support not only of general public, but also of my family and some friends, and this gives the constant confidence boost in thinking I am (we are) right, that it's not only woman-hating, but also physically nonsensical, outright harmful and those people lie fluently.
If troonery was a thing of, like, single digits or tens of cases per millions of people, I wouldn't give a fuck about their experimental wounds, just like I did not before the cult sucked in some people around me I personally know, and many other people clapped, while many others are afraid to speak up. Also an important discussion takes place here.

Also: While I am still many times more sensitive and mentally weak than an average nurse in hospital or hospice, I do not think I am doing anything to myself - I am desensitised to most of the images here (the worst one so far wasn't even a trans surgery, it was some rotten beetus foot) because I know those people inflicted it upon themselves and spread the lie further.
 
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I just dunno, kiwifams. Why do you follow this thread?
I had a phase in which i felt wrong. I realize this is gonna make people think worse of me but i did. I now realize it's 2024 and not liking girly things doesn't make me any less of a woman. I'm watching this because i am horrified about what my life almost could have looked like if i lived in an echo chamber. I never "transitioned" openly in any way but i was reading about people doing it and wishing i could do the same. What a fucking bullet i dodged there, and only because 1) one of my best friends hates trans people and made me watch a documentary and 2) i wanted a community to talk openly about my fat German meddl man the Dragonlord himself, so i ended up on KF and also found this thread. The gore aspect also lured me in, not gonna lie. Can't not click on spoilers.

I guess i emphathize a little bit with these people. In the end i'm probably just autistic. But if the wrong people had become my friends i'd have butchered myself by now. (:_(

I deserve all the dumb/tmi/whatever rates i get
 
If we check out crochet and knitting subreddits we’ll probably discover what our manlettes spent their post-surgery recovery time doing.
For your reading pleasure, courtesy of r/knitting.
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Knitting a sweater when my body shape is about to change?​

Hi! I'm a pretty new knitter who has gotten super into the craft. Started with smaller projects and am eyeing a sweater that I'd love to knit for myself. The thing is that I'm a trans person about to get top surgery (double mastectomy, i.e. getting rid of my boobs) some time in the early fall. Is there a point for me to knit a sweater now, or do I have to wait until post surgery? Alternatively, can I start knitting it now and somehow guesstimate what my measurements will be after the surgery so that I can wear it then? I'm of a medium size build if that makes a difference.

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Introducing the Sun to My Chest for the First Time​

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This was double knit with RHSS in navy and aruba sea. the yellow is vanna’s glamour in gold. i used size US 7 needles. i created a chart first on paper to get all the placing correct and then i transferred it over to stitch fiddle to create the chart i knit from! i sewed velcro onto the backs of the pieces and glued the other part of the velcro onto wooden panels which were then screwed into the wall so they look like they’re floating. i also sanded the backs of the star buttons and super glued push pins onto them for the wall, and sewed on the buttons normally for the tapestries.
this piece was inspired by the wonderful experience of sitting underneath a tree summer of 2020 in only a pair of shorts while the sun warmed my top surgery scars. it reminded me of what it was like to step out into the sun topless for the first time, after having had to shield my body from the sun for years.
let me know if you have any questions!

Crochet is the pastime of choice however, probably because it's been having a moment with zoomers on tiktok the past few years.
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Looking for a butterfly top pattern!​

I’m looking for a pattern for a butterfly top/bralette that fits very flat/tight. I’ve had top surgery, which means im completely flat chested, but I would still like to make and wear a cute butterfly top! Are there any patterns for one that includes a way to adjust the size or something?? Free patterns are preferred, as I have no way to pay online. Thanks in advance!
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Chest binder patterns.​

Hey dudes, I’m a ftm guy who can’t buy an online binder without my parents noticing and possibly fighting with me for getting one without their consent. Fortunately, I can do can knit and crochet. I was wondering if any of you guys know any patterns for a homemade binder? If not, do you guys know any other chest-related underwear patterns that could be converted from not a binder? Thanks dudes.
 
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I had a phase in which i felt wrong. I realize this is gonna make people think worse of me but i did. I now realize it's 2024 and not liking girly things doesn't make me any less of a woman. I'm watching this because i am horrified about what my life almost could have looked like if i lived in an echo chamber. I never "transitioned" openly in any way but i was reading about people doing it and wishing i could do the same. What a fucking bullet i dodged there, and only because 1) one of my best friends hates trans people and made me watch a documentary and 2) i wanted a community to talk openly about my fat German meddl man the Dragonlord himself, so i ended up on KF and also found this thread. The gore aspect also lured me in, not gonna lie. Can't not click on spoilers.

I guess i emphathize a little bit with these people. In the end i'm probably just autistic. But if the wrong people had become my friends i'd have butchered myself by now. (:_(

I deserve all the dumb/tmi/whatever rates i get
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This subforum probably has the biggest proportion of fags, dykes, and gender non-conforming people on the site. It's no accident why we're here. I have a kind of tired and exasperated empathy for the ones that go into this stuff because it's a fad and the ones that are struggling with being different or autistic, at the same time I have a burning hatred for the pinkpillers, the handmaidens, the agps, and all the assorted pushers and enablers. You can't change being a fag or a dyke or a bit bullish or fey, but you can not become a sex pest eunuch pushing yourself into women's spaces or a mutilating your body because you feel out of place or alone.
The ones that pushing this madness on vulnerable people need to go prison, and the ones pushing this madness on kids need to go under it.

For your reading pleasure, courtesy of r/knitting.
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I just dunno, kiwifams. Why do you follow this thread?
Morbid fascination? I’m a biologist and have always found medical anomalies really interesting. Mind you, the ones I’ve seen most of have been due to messed up chromosomes, or gestational errors. I never understood how they could turn a man into a woman or vice versa, and this thread has shown me that try as they might, it doesn’t work.
ETA - this thread is educational. The people who post here regularly have great insight not only into the physical aspects, but also the mental misfires that can lead to dysphoria.
 
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Says that he went with the 'inexperienced' surgeon because the surgeon was "trans/NB", and laments that he should have gone with the 'old cis man':
Uh-oh, that sounds like dangerously anti-DEI speech, friendo!

I’m thinking we could save a lot of pooner lives by Etsying their ability to STP.

Why don’t we see more of these with a cute crocheted penis cover?
The problem with the funnels is the same problem with standing to pee as a woman: it's not about the peeing, it's about the cleanup after. It's about having to have special equipment: even if you're a pro at doing the labia spread and angle, there's still more wiping than a man would need. (Or maybe just "want," but that's a different issue.)

Stand-to-pee isn't about the peeing itself; it's the meta of being able to stand to pee. Like poonery, there are many roads to it. Some girls had a formative experience seeing a boy their age (hopefully) pee and that became the symbol for what they'd never have. Some unconsciously fear the exposure and trap of lowering pants to pee sitting down. Some of them are "asexual" and don't have a good reason they want a penis... all right, to pee with! Some of them are just seeing so many other FtMs move heaven and earth for STP and internalize that that should be their drive too.

The irony is that all this effort, time, money, pain and infection is going into a zipless piss. It's the opposite of what they wish for, and sometimes doesn't even work.


It's a shame everything is GATEKEEPING now. Even if therapists rubber stamp a surgery letter, I'd propose sending prospective "bottom surgery" FtMs to a weekend urination workshop. It'd be kind of like the potty training method in the old Dr. Spock book; load up the pooners with Gatorade and furosemide and practice methods of outdoor/standing urination until they got the hang of it and felt more confident--or decided it was a dumb goal after all. I'd call it CHALLENGE PISSING but I'm afraid of what methods Big Bill Hell's would take to protect their trademark.
 
I just dunno, kiwifams. Why do you follow this thread?
I never understood the trans pov and never bought into it. I have always hated them, especially TiMs. Many of my old friends have fallen victim however, to the point I became the only unmarred woman left in the friend group. Watching it firsthand made it incredibly clear to me this was an extreme, maladaptive coping mechanism for other issues in my friends' lives. These girls were all physically healthy before the "life saving treatments" they received, now less than a decade later they are all experiencing complex health problems brought on by the treatments. When I was younger I was pressured to also conform, but as an adult I see it was just mentally weaker people who were uncomfortable that they saw themselves in me. I was and always have been perfectly content with being a woman, which I guess was threatening to the idea that you had to transition to be happy.

I follow partly due to a morbid curiosity for gore, a hatred of trannies, and a reminder of what fate my old friends have chosen for themselves but I managed to avoid.
 
I follow because my Autistic special interest is the human body, all the ways it can go wrong and all the fascinating things humans have devised to fix it. The medical discussions, the psychological discussions, the gore pictures that show the real truth as opposed to what the TRAs pretend. All of it.
And for Chicken Helmets!
I want some. My chickens are going to be the cool girls at Calf Club this year!
 
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